Yes Yes, I saw a dog also walking upright on YouTube, Yes we do not only make use of tools, but combine all these factors with self awareness and so on, I mean the fact that we are having this discussion, yes these things make us different. No?
and of course not to lose sight of the fact that we are all living, like these other creatures, and just like them, we will all die. Yes in that regard, we are all the same, and as a living human, a person, we can see that, and hopefully, respect that. The gift of life.
what you saw on youtube was a trick/talent/whatever for the amusement of humans.
define self awareness?
does a dog know its a dog? who told it it was a dog?
personally i do not think a dog knows itself as dog. but of course i cant know for sure cause my dog cant communicate in a way i could understand. all it knows is that it is... im here... im alive... it exists... it responds to being called a dog because we as humans have told it it is. just like if you call out cow to gaun the attention of your children.. they wont respond cause they know theyre a child, not a cow.. cause weve told them they are.. and their whole existence dictates it to be so. however... you call out crocdile and youll have a panic on your hands.
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Yes Yes, I saw a dog also walking upright on YouTube, Yes we do not only make use of tools, but combine all these factors with self awareness and so on, I mean the fact that we are having this discussion, yes these things make us different. No?
and of course not to lose sight of the fact that we are all living, like these other creatures, and just like them, we will all die. Yes in that regard, we are all the same, and as a living human, a person, we can see that, and hopefully, respect that. The gift of life.
what you saw on youtube was a trick/talent/whatever for the amusement of humans.
define self awareness?
does a dog know its a dog? who told it it was a dog?
personally i do not think a dog knows itself as dog. but of course i cant know for sure cause my dog cant communicate in a way i could understand. all it knows is that it is... im here... im alive... it exists... it responds to being called a dog because we as humans have told it it is. just like if you call out cow to gaun the attention of your children.. they wont respond cause they know theyre a child, not a cow.. cause weve told them they are.. and their whole existence dictates it to be so. however... you call out crocdile and youll have a panic on your hands.
Does a dog know the difference between itself and cat? does a cat know the difference between a fellow cat and a rat?
Now ask yourself, how many other species get a kick out of watching other species doing crazy things, like a dog walking on 2 and a cat spinning around on a ceiling fan, get the point?
Yes Yes, I saw a dog also walking upright on YouTube, Yes we do not only make use of tools, but combine all these factors with self awareness and so on, I mean the fact that we are having this discussion, yes these things make us different. No?
and of course not to lose sight of the fact that we are all living, like these other creatures, and just like them, we will all die. Yes in that regard, we are all the same, and as a living human, a person, we can see that, and hopefully, respect that. The gift of life.
what you saw on youtube was a trick/talent/whatever for the amusement of humans.
define self awareness?
does your dog know its a dog? who told it it was a dog?
personally i do not think a dog knows itself as dog. but of course i cant know for sure cause my dog cant communicate in a way i could understand. all it knows is that it is... im here... im alive... it exists... it responds to being called a dog because we as humans have told it it is. just like if you call out cow to gaun the attention of your children.. they wont respond cause they know theyre a child, not a cow.. cause weve told them they are.. and their whole existence dictates it to be so. however... you call out crocdile and youll have a panic on your hands.
Does your dog really know it's alive? is it aware that it will one day meet death? Your dog never wags it's tail communicating to you it's joy, or pull it's ears back when angry or whatever the case, does it not bark to let you know when someones at the door, sure we have levels of communication, but that was not your point, was it?
Yes Yes, I saw a dog also walking upright on YouTube, Yes we do not only make use of tools, but combine all these factors with self awareness and so on, I mean the fact that we are having this discussion, yes these things make us different. No?
and of course not to lose sight of the fact that we are all living, like these other creatures, and just like them, we will all die. Yes in that regard, we are all the same, and as a living human, a person, we can see that, and hopefully, respect that. The gift of life.
what you saw on youtube was a trick/talent/whatever for the amusement of humans.
define self awareness?
does a dog know its a dog? who told it it was a dog?
personally i do not think a dog knows itself as dog. but of course i cant know for sure cause my dog cant communicate in a way i could understand. all it knows is that it is... im here... im alive... it exists... it responds to being called a dog because we as humans have told it it is. just like if you call out cow to gaun the attention of your children.. they wont respond cause they know theyre a child, not a cow.. cause weve told them they are.. and their whole existence dictates it to be so. however... you call out crocdile and youll have a panic on your hands.
Does a dog know the difference between itself and cat? does a cat know the difference between a fellow cat and a rat?
Now ask yourself, how many other species get a kick out of watching other species doing crazy things, like a dog walking on 2 and a cat spinning around on a ceiling fan, get the point?
i think a dog knows a cat isnt like it is. and yes i think a cat knows other cats and that a rat isnt like it, therefore not a cat. that is of course if a cat knows it is a cat.
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i think a dog knows a cat isnt like it is. and yes i think a cat knows other cats and that a rat isnt like it, therefore not a cat. that is of course if a cat knows it is a cat.
Does your dog really know it's alive? is it aware that it will one day meet death? Your dog never wags it's tail communicating to you it's joy, or pull it's ears back when angry or whatever the case, does it not bark to let you know when someones at the door, sure we have levels of communication, but that was not your point, was it?
i apologise.. what i meant by it cant communicate with me, is it cant communicate to me that it in fact knows its a dog.
yes he wags his tail when hes pleased to see his people. he even barks at me if im sitting in a car too long out the front of the house. my thinking is he knows i belong 'with' him so whats taking me so long.. come here now... youre in my pack. he sits immediately when he sees his leash in my hand. yes he barks at strangers, but not all strangers. yes he sits when i open the front gates so the car can leave the premises. so he communicates in these ways that he knows what these human actions mean when he responds. but would he respond this way to people he doesnt consider 'his' people. doubtful. i know he doesnt respond to the 4 and half year old commands the same way he does to mine. he senses she has no authority and theyre about the same size atm anyway so maybe that has something to do with it.
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i think a dog knows a cat isnt like it is. and yes i think a cat knows other cats and that a rat isnt like it, therefore not a cat. that is of course if a cat knows it is a cat.
And not a rat, lmao! good times,
i can only guess that a cat knows its unlike a rat. does that mean it 'knows' its not a rat??
*big brain hurting*
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i think a dog knows a cat isnt like it is. and yes i think a cat knows other cats and that a rat isnt like it, therefore not a cat. that is of course if a cat knows it is a cat.
And not a rat, lmao! good times,
i can only guess that a cat knows its unlike a rat. does that mean it 'knows' its not a rat??
*big brain hurting*
hehhehe! which would bring us back to, what is it to 'know', the truth. the reality of what is. How does a spider 'know' how to build a web'? Why do animals run when they sense danger, like the 2004 Tsunami, many land animals fled day's before, they could sense something, but what was it inside them that made them run? what was the fear?...Was it fear? fear of danger? fear of death? The ultimate truth that us humans search for? Something inside all living things,
So is a fetus alive? Is alive, living? As they say, you can live until 100, but were you really alive? Did you really live life?
hehhehe! which would bring us back to, what is it to 'know', the truth. the reality of what is. How does a spider 'know' how to build a web'? Why do animals run when they sense danger, like the 2004 Tsunami, many land animals fled day's before, they could sense something, but what was it inside them that made them run? what was the fear?...Was it fear? fear of danger? fear of death? The ultimate truth that us humans search for? Something inside all living things,
So is a fetus alive? Is alive, living? As they say, you can live until 100, but were you really alive? Did you really live life?
perhaps animals sense a shift in the air that us 'overly evolved' and 'de-natured' humans have lost the ability of doing. you would think that if the people observed the animals deaprting then they would too... cause if we think animals retreat before a natural disaster then wheres our sense of survival to run too.
yes i think a foetus is living. it is drawing life from its motherhost. however... if the motherhost withdraws this lifeline then the foetus will die. its a parasitic 'life' in that respect... until the unborn has developed enough that it can survive on its own, or have a good chance to.
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All I want to know is what Heidi's stance on abortion in China, India and Africa. Should abortion be stopped in China, India and Africa? Because, aren't those embryos are people, too?
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hehhehe! which would bring us back to, what is it to 'know', the truth. the reality of what is. How does a spider 'know' how to build a web'? Why do animals run when they sense danger, like the 2004 Tsunami, many land animals fled day's before, they could sense something, but what was it inside them that made them run? what was the fear?...Was it fear? fear of danger? fear of death? The ultimate truth that us humans search for? Something inside all living things,
So is a fetus alive? Is alive, living? As they say, you can live until 100, but were you really alive? Did you really live life?
perhaps animals sense a shift in the air that us 'overly evolved' and 'de-natured' humans have lost the ability of doing. you would think that if the people observed the animals deaprting then they would too... cause if we think animals retreat before a natural disaster then wheres our sense of survival to run too.
yes i think a foetus is living. it is drawing life from its motherhost. however... if the motherhost withdraws this lifeline then the foetus will die. its a parasitic 'life' in that respect... until the unborn has developed enough that it can survive on its own, or have a good chance to.
Yes! YeS! One would think we humans would see animals departing and wonder what's happening, which brings us again to the special point, what is human, what is a person and if so called intelligent beings are unable to simply observe our animals leaving and not see the signs in them, what sad state we are in.
We have lost our connection to the world.
I mean what other species lies? We do, it's a human thing. It was Rumi who once said, we must not search for love, but simply break down the walls we create that blocks it, (something like that )
This love is the same thing inside animals, that truth, we are born knowing it, are egos surely build our walls and covers it up. Blinding us to our surroundings.
its simple really... murder is a legal term. a foetus is not a person and has in fact not even been born yet.. therfore it has no protection under the law. i think this is a sketchy area and brings up a lot of discussion about when a foetus should be considered viable enough to be a person, if in fact it should ever be.
im reading a book at the moment that involves the murder of an almost to term pregnant woman(obviously ) and the abduction of the unborn. the local police wanted to put out an amber alert for the missing 'unborn' but where told that couldnt happen because the amber alert is only for children(apparently already 'alive') who are in danger through abduction. time was of the essense in this case because a newborn doesnt stay newborn, with that disctinctive newborn look, for that long.and so would have been harder to identify against other babies(if you follow me) so an alert for a newborn needed to be put out. the problem as i said before was the child hadnt actually been 'born' but had been ripped from her mothers womb. eventually that reticence was gotten past, an amber alert was given and the babygirl was recovered safe.
so i ask.. where is the line drawn?
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...It was Rumi who once said, we must not search for love, but simply break down the walls we create that blocks it, (something like that )...
i like this.
tis as if were afraid of the unknown.. which love is. but were not really sure what were afraid of. but well be damned if were gonna give over control to someone else... they might hurt us.
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Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
My point is that a human embryo is a developing human at the earliest stage. I find it odd that we have laws protecting sea turtle eggs yet not protecting developing humans.
Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???
Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
My point is that a human embryo is a developing human at the earliest stage. I find it odd that we have laws protecting sea turtle eggs yet not protecting developing humans.
Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???
Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?
Having a law preventing people from destroying a turtle's eggs is completely different from having a law preventing a turtle from destroying its own eggs. The latter, not the former, is more analogous to abortion.
My point is that a human embryo is a developing human at the earliest stage. I find it odd that we have laws protecting sea turtle eggs yet not protecting developing humans.
Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???
Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?
yeah, I can't say I get the endangered species vs unborn child analogy. it's apples and mangos.
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Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???
we're not protecting the turtle eggs out of some public morality that not protecting turtle eggs is wrong. it's the preservation of an endangered species. I'm sure we'd turn around and have anti-abortion laws if we were heading towards a Children of Men type scenario. But we aren't.
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Pleae show me where an embryo is considered a life?...I'll be waiting.
the answer to this is simple. all republican politicians believe that an embryo is a life. because that is what their church and their base tells them. who is the last pro-choice republican to really hold a high office? thus we get their annual attempts to have roe vs wade overturned, only to find that members of the supreme court annually declare roe v wade as "settled law". i find it funny that people constantly donate money to organizations that are trying to make abortion illegal, limit access to abortions, or punish those that have an abortion. they are just pissing money away. here is my idea, instead of wasting money on a futile effort why not donate that money to a homeless shelter or a hospital and help take care of the born, living people that can't feed or care for themselves.
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Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?
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what you saw on youtube was a trick/talent/whatever for the amusement of humans.
define self awareness?
does a dog know its a dog? who told it it was a dog?
personally i do not think a dog knows itself as dog. but of course i cant know for sure cause my dog cant communicate in a way i could understand. all it knows is that it is... im here... im alive... it exists... it responds to being called a dog because we as humans have told it it is. just like if you call out cow to gaun the attention of your children.. they wont respond cause they know theyre a child, not a cow.. cause weve told them they are.. and their whole existence dictates it to be so. however... you call out crocdile and youll have a panic on your hands.
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Now ask yourself, how many other species get a kick out of watching other species doing crazy things, like a dog walking on 2 and a cat spinning around on a ceiling fan, get the point?
Does your dog really know it's alive? is it aware that it will one day meet death? Your dog never wags it's tail communicating to you it's joy, or pull it's ears back when angry or whatever the case, does it not bark to let you know when someones at the door, sure we have levels of communication, but that was not your point, was it?
i think a dog knows a cat isnt like it is. and yes i think a cat knows other cats and that a rat isnt like it, therefore not a cat. that is of course if a cat knows it is a cat.
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And not a rat, lmao! good times,
i apologise.. what i meant by it cant communicate with me, is it cant communicate to me that it in fact knows its a dog.
yes he wags his tail when hes pleased to see his people. he even barks at me if im sitting in a car too long out the front of the house. my thinking is he knows i belong 'with' him so whats taking me so long.. come here now... youre in my pack.
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i can only guess that a cat knows its unlike a rat. does that mean it 'knows' its not a rat??
*big brain hurting*
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hehhehe! which would bring us back to, what is it to 'know', the truth. the reality of what is. How does a spider 'know' how to build a web'? Why do animals run when they sense danger, like the 2004 Tsunami, many land animals fled day's before, they could sense something, but what was it inside them that made them run? what was the fear?...Was it fear? fear of danger? fear of death? The ultimate truth that us humans search for? Something inside all living things,
So is a fetus alive? Is alive, living? As they say, you can live until 100, but were you really alive? Did you really live life?
perhaps animals sense a shift in the air that us 'overly evolved' and 'de-natured' humans have lost the ability of doing. you would think that if the people observed the animals deaprting then they would too... cause if we think animals retreat before a natural disaster then wheres our sense of survival to run too.
yes i think a foetus is living. it is drawing life from its motherhost. however... if the motherhost withdraws this lifeline then the foetus will die. its a parasitic 'life' in that respect... until the unborn has developed enough that it can survive on its own, or have a good chance to.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Yes! YeS! One would think we humans would see animals departing and wonder what's happening, which brings us again to the special point, what is human, what is a person and if so called intelligent beings are unable to simply observe our animals leaving and not see the signs in them, what sad state we are in.
We have lost our connection to the world.
I mean what other species lies? We do, it's a human thing. It was Rumi who once said, we must not search for love, but simply break down the walls we create that blocks it, (something like that )
This love is the same thing inside animals, that truth, we are born knowing it, are egos surely build our walls and covers it up. Blinding us to our surroundings.
its simple really... murder is a legal term. a foetus is not a person and has in fact not even been born yet.. therfore it has no protection under the law. i think this is a sketchy area and brings up a lot of discussion about when a foetus should be considered viable enough to be a person, if in fact it should ever be.
im reading a book at the moment that involves the murder of an almost to term pregnant woman(obviously
so i ask.. where is the line drawn?
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i like this.
tis as if were afraid of the unknown.. which love is. but were not really sure what were afraid of. but well be damned if were gonna give over control to someone else... they might hurt us.
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If abortion was technically murder, then every time I jerk off I'm committing genocide.
Reading your posts makes me believe it is actually possible to be this stupid.
Why should we have laws protecting a turtles eggs since the egg is not a turtle???
Please show me anywhere where a sperm cell by its self has evolved into life... Ill be waiting
Do you eat eggs?
Pleae show me where an embryo is considered a life?...I'll be waiting.
Turtles are an endangered species. This is why their eggs are protected. Would you like me to draw you a picture to make it easier for you to understand?
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yeah, I can't say I get the endangered species vs unborn child analogy. it's apples and mangos.
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
we're not protecting the turtle eggs out of some public morality that not protecting turtle eggs is wrong. it's the preservation of an endangered species. I'm sure we'd turn around and have anti-abortion laws if we were heading towards a Children of Men type scenario. But we aren't.
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Oh shit... that means I produce snuff films.
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