Please Pearl Jam, consider a VINYL Benaroya Hall re-issue!
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YES!Leezestarr313 said:Aw, this is still alive. I found it crazy to see that Qotsa did a re-reissue of their first album and people were excited about it. I still think the Benny deserves a reissue. It sounds so beautiful on vinyl.I LOVE MUSIC.
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2-feign-reluctance said:I’d buy it, and go see the Bruins
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Standard black LP's so those complaining about their $10,000 sealed LP boxset losing value will hold its value. Doesn't even have be a boxset. Mind boggling why this hasn't been rereleased.I LOVE MUSIC.
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lol, it doesn't really matter, the original will lose it's lustre and value upon a rerelease. LO2L has dropped quite a bit now that the market is flooded with copies. I bet the Give Way CD drops considerably in value after RSD. It's the way it goes.mfc2006 said:Standard black LP's so those complaining about their $10,000 sealed LP boxset losing value will hold its value. Doesn't even have be a boxset. Mind boggling why this hasn't been rereleased.
I'm ok with a re-release, but at the same time I don't think it's mind boggling. It was a limited edition release to begin with, maybe the band/10c intend to keep it that way. It was pretty clear in the announcement for it, that it was a limited run. It's possible they never reissue it. On the other hand, they could change their minds, but as it stands, they've done exactly what they said they would do. One time limited edition release. It's not mind boggling they did what they said they were going to do
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How about a light green Benny variant vinyl release this year?
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Reissue it via ...
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My Wrangler is the same. Power steering and brakes is about all I need.JeBurkhardt said:
I have a Jeep Patriot with a manual transmission, roll up windows and manually locked doors. My kids call it the Amish Jeep.1ThoughtKnown said:
Special care and attention -way more than flipping the wax.BF25394 said:
But this is entirely a self-created thing. Music takes special care and attention, not the format it's on. You either choose to actively listen or you don't, whether it's a CD or an LP. I sit down and listen to CDs and records from start to finish literally every day. Just because you have to turn a record over after 20 minutes, it's a bit of a stretch to call that "special care and attention." It's a bug, not a feature. It's one of the reasons why records became obsolete in the first place.1ThoughtKnown said:
Exactly. It’s simple math. You can throw on a 70 min cd and leave the house if you want. The cd will stop playing when it’s done.anakin_pdx said:
It's not more distracting, but it's easier to get distracted. When I listen to a record for me personally, I sit down and that's what I'm doing because I have to be there to change sides. I don't listen to records every day, so when I do, I make sure I'm more in the moment and focused on it. Listening to something as a cd or digitally I do all the time, it's easier to just start doing other stuff at the same time because I don't have to focus on it as much, or I want something in the background. I don't put records on for background music. But that's just me.BF25394 said:
I don't understand this. Why would the format make a difference? How is a CD more distracting than a record?anakin_pdx said:
Yep. Have it, and I was at the show, so when I spin it, it's an experience for me and it takes me back. I only spin it on very rare occasions now and when I do, I'm always afraid I'll mess it up. It never happens, but the thought is still there. As long a a reissue sounded as good I'd spin that much more frequently and would be glad to have it.PJammer4life said:After 20 years, even owners of the OG would want another to spin , right?
Listening to the cd works of coarse, but for me when I listen to a record that's all I'm doing and I'm in the moment. A cd I easily get distracted and do other things.Vinyl takes special care and attention, it’s kind of a pain in the ass, and it’s why I love it.
It's funny that for 30 years after vinyl was phased out, people didn't seem to have this problem with CDs. Records were obsolete for the vast majority of the listening public. Then they became fashionable for some reason* and a bunch of people convinced themselves that they can't do without this technology that they did perfectly well without for decades. I guess I shouldn't complain about this since it means that the Lost Dogs record I bought for $20.00 when it came out in 2003 because hardly anybody cared about records anymore is now worth $500.00 (and something similar for every other Pearl Jam record I own from that interregnum between the phaseout and resurgence of vinyl).
Another thing about this phenomenon that I find funny is that I have a flip phone that I bought new in 2019. I am regularly mocked (in a friendly way) for using this "20th-century technology" by people who swear by a technology that Thomas Edison pioneered in the 19th century. Is there any other example of an outdated technology coming back around into vogue like this? Are people going to start bringing back the VCR? The brick-sized cell phone? Car windows that you have to roll down manually?
* It actually makes more sense to me that Generation Z would gravitate to records because they don't really have any experience with physical media, including CDs, and the novelty and tangibility of a record would have a certain appeal to them as a totem. It makes less sense to me that Generation X, which grew up with records and willingly abandoned them in favor of CDs, now turns around and pretends like none of it ever happened. If the average 50-year-old vinyl enthusiast had been a little more loyal to the format in the mid-1980s, maybe they could have sustained a market for it instead of allowing it to be phased out.Lots of people own Lost Dogs. Great sounding record. Love to spin it. Priceless.The flip phone probably isn’t old enough to be cool again and that’s probably why you are mocked. Rather enigmatic for someone arguing so vehemently against old technology to buy one.
Some things never become cool again, some things do. It seems pretty irrelevant to lump all consumer goods under one umbrella.A great vinyl record isn’t a flip phone or automatic windows. Nether of those things have ever elicited an emotional response from me. I never got shivers opening up a flip phone or brought to tears by how special it was to roll down a car window manually.
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My favourite was an old 80's Honda Civic I bought in my university days. We called it a Hondamatic. You shifted years, it had no clutch, but it didn't automatically change the gears, so you had to shift it. The problem being they made the brake pedal abnormally wide. So if you were going to change the gear, and used to driving a standard, you'd accidently stomp on the brake. Scared the crap out of one of my best friends a few times. Took me a few weeks to get used to not going for a clutch.mace1229 said:
My Wrangler is the same. Power steering and brakes is about all I need.JeBurkhardt said:
I have a Jeep Patriot with a manual transmission, roll up windows and manually locked doors. My kids call it the Amish Jeep.1ThoughtKnown said:
Special care and attention -way more than flipping the wax.BF25394 said:
But this is entirely a self-created thing. Music takes special care and attention, not the format it's on. You either choose to actively listen or you don't, whether it's a CD or an LP. I sit down and listen to CDs and records from start to finish literally every day. Just because you have to turn a record over after 20 minutes, it's a bit of a stretch to call that "special care and attention." It's a bug, not a feature. It's one of the reasons why records became obsolete in the first place.1ThoughtKnown said:
Exactly. It’s simple math. You can throw on a 70 min cd and leave the house if you want. The cd will stop playing when it’s done.anakin_pdx said:
It's not more distracting, but it's easier to get distracted. When I listen to a record for me personally, I sit down and that's what I'm doing because I have to be there to change sides. I don't listen to records every day, so when I do, I make sure I'm more in the moment and focused on it. Listening to something as a cd or digitally I do all the time, it's easier to just start doing other stuff at the same time because I don't have to focus on it as much, or I want something in the background. I don't put records on for background music. But that's just me.BF25394 said:
I don't understand this. Why would the format make a difference? How is a CD more distracting than a record?anakin_pdx said:
Yep. Have it, and I was at the show, so when I spin it, it's an experience for me and it takes me back. I only spin it on very rare occasions now and when I do, I'm always afraid I'll mess it up. It never happens, but the thought is still there. As long a a reissue sounded as good I'd spin that much more frequently and would be glad to have it.PJammer4life said:After 20 years, even owners of the OG would want another to spin , right?
Listening to the cd works of coarse, but for me when I listen to a record that's all I'm doing and I'm in the moment. A cd I easily get distracted and do other things.Vinyl takes special care and attention, it’s kind of a pain in the ass, and it’s why I love it.
It's funny that for 30 years after vinyl was phased out, people didn't seem to have this problem with CDs. Records were obsolete for the vast majority of the listening public. Then they became fashionable for some reason* and a bunch of people convinced themselves that they can't do without this technology that they did perfectly well without for decades. I guess I shouldn't complain about this since it means that the Lost Dogs record I bought for $20.00 when it came out in 2003 because hardly anybody cared about records anymore is now worth $500.00 (and something similar for every other Pearl Jam record I own from that interregnum between the phaseout and resurgence of vinyl).
Another thing about this phenomenon that I find funny is that I have a flip phone that I bought new in 2019. I am regularly mocked (in a friendly way) for using this "20th-century technology" by people who swear by a technology that Thomas Edison pioneered in the 19th century. Is there any other example of an outdated technology coming back around into vogue like this? Are people going to start bringing back the VCR? The brick-sized cell phone? Car windows that you have to roll down manually?
* It actually makes more sense to me that Generation Z would gravitate to records because they don't really have any experience with physical media, including CDs, and the novelty and tangibility of a record would have a certain appeal to them as a totem. It makes less sense to me that Generation X, which grew up with records and willingly abandoned them in favor of CDs, now turns around and pretends like none of it ever happened. If the average 50-year-old vinyl enthusiast had been a little more loyal to the format in the mid-1980s, maybe they could have sustained a market for it instead of allowing it to be phased out.Lots of people own Lost Dogs. Great sounding record. Love to spin it. Priceless.The flip phone probably isn’t old enough to be cool again and that’s probably why you are mocked. Rather enigmatic for someone arguing so vehemently against old technology to buy one.
Some things never become cool again, some things do. It seems pretty irrelevant to lump all consumer goods under one umbrella.A great vinyl record isn’t a flip phone or automatic windows. Nether of those things have ever elicited an emotional response from me. I never got shivers opening up a flip phone or brought to tears by how special it was to roll down a car window manually.
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