Please Pearl Jam, consider a VINYL Benaroya Hall re-issue!

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  • Gvn2fly
    Gvn2fly Posts: 757
    Maybe it's been said at some point in this thread but I think re-issuing it would destroy it's legacy.  No one would care anymore.  It's such a unique part of PJ collecting history that it's better off being so special and elusive. Makes it much more special then it otherwise would be. 

    It reminds me of when the Cubs finally won the word series after 108 years. That uniqueness about them is gone now since they won.  I think they were actually better of not winning the WS. It's much less exciting now that that story, that chase and elusiveness is over.
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,788
    StardogChamp79 said:
    When is the anniversary of the Benny anyways?
    The 20th anniversary of the show is October 22 this year.
    The 20th anniversary of it being released isn't until July 2024
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    also the 20th anniversary of them announcing and saying it's a limited edition :)
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    It’s about the music. The collectibility legacy doesn’t matter IMO. 
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    It’s about the music. The collectibility legacy doesn’t matter IMO. 
    You're not wrong, but this is sort of the strange logic about fans obsessing over a Benaroya Hall reissue.

    If it is just about the music, it's there already easily accessible. But it doesn't appear to be about the music, it is about the format of the music.  Which is purely driven by the limited edition aspect of the box set.

    I've always said that fandom has way overvalued the Benaroya Hall boxset.  Pouring time and energy into reissuing this only delays better and more interesting projects of material we have not heard officially.
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  • Gvn2fly
    Gvn2fly Posts: 757
    PB11041 said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    It’s about the music. The collectibility legacy doesn’t matter IMO. 
    You're not wrong, but this is sort of the strange logic about fans obsessing over a Benaroya Hall reissue.

    If it is just about the music, it's there already easily accessible. But it doesn't appear to be about the music, it is about the format of the music.  Which is purely driven by the limited edition aspect of the box set.

    I've always said that fandom has way overvalued the Benaroya Hall boxset.  Pouring time and energy into reissuing this only delays better and more interesting projects of material we have not heard officially.
    Completely agree.  It is widely available on other formats if it was just about the music.

    But it's not, it's about the limited aspect of the vinyl.  Just like Reeenk Roink.  If that were about just the music then it wouldn't be what it is.  It's limited, it's unique, it's special. 
  • JBob87
    JBob87 Posts: 485
    Guarantee everyone against a reissue already owns one. Bunch of vinyl NIMBYs  ;)

    IMO mass producing a simple version of this on black wax would not devalue the original much. The original was printed in such small numbers relative to today's production runs in a vinyl-resurgent world. It will always be the original and if they keep it the only version on colored wax that would even further add to collectibility for those who care about such things. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    BF25394 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    With two good speakers, a high end turntable, cartridge and decent amp you don’t need anything else but two in the front. 
    Before I hooked up the other speakers, the sound of CD audio through the two front speakers was outstanding and superior to audio from records. Now, the six-speaker experience with the CDs is mind-blowing. It's like my whole collection is brand-new. I guess I would want you to have that experience before giving credence to the statement you're making.
    I’m vinyl all the way. To be honest, doesn’t really matter to me what other people think but there is one simple truth, the equipment matters. 
    My point was, with my set up I close my eyes and they are in the room. NY @ Massey Hall is another example of a mind blowing vinyl listening experience. 

    If you prefer the Benny on cd, that’s great. The people on this thread (who don’t own one) want a wax copy. 
    The equipment matters far more than vinyl vs CD. I would guess the average person, myself included, doesn't have high end enough equipment to really hear an improvement. I still prefer spinning the record anyway.
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,245
    mace1229 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    BF25394 said:
    1ThoughtKnown said:
    With two good speakers, a high end turntable, cartridge and decent amp you don’t need anything else but two in the front. 
    Before I hooked up the other speakers, the sound of CD audio through the two front speakers was outstanding and superior to audio from records. Now, the six-speaker experience with the CDs is mind-blowing. It's like my whole collection is brand-new. I guess I would want you to have that experience before giving credence to the statement you're making.
    I’m vinyl all the way. To be honest, doesn’t really matter to me what other people think but there is one simple truth, the equipment matters. 
    My point was, with my set up I close my eyes and they are in the room. NY @ Massey Hall is another example of a mind blowing vinyl listening experience. 

    If you prefer the Benny on cd, that’s great. The people on this thread (who don’t own one) want a wax copy. 
    The equipment matters far more than vinyl vs CD. I would guess the average person, myself included, doesn't have high end enough equipment to really hear an improvement. I still prefer spinning the record anyway.


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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    JBob87 said:
    Guarantee everyone against a reissue already owns one. Bunch of vinyl NIMBYs  ;)

    IMO mass producing a simple version of this on black wax would not devalue the original much. The original was printed in such small numbers relative to today's production runs in a vinyl-resurgent world. It will always be the original and if they keep it the only version on colored wax that would even further add to collectibility for those who care about such things. 
    I'm not against it, but was trying to point out it's possible it never gets reissued.  When it came out the 10c specifically said it was limited edition, so as much as people ask, they might stick to that.   On the other hand, they've changed their minds before, so there's always hope.
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    The only people that care about a re-issue are the ones that want to profit off of it. 🤷‍♂️ 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    PJammin' said:
    The only people that care about a re-issue are the ones that want to profit off of it. 🤷‍♂️ 
    I just want to spin it.  
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  • mookieblalock
    mookieblalock Posts: 3,564
    Zod said:
    JBob87 said:
    Guarantee everyone against a reissue already owns one. Bunch of vinyl NIMBYs  ;)

    IMO mass producing a simple version of this on black wax would not devalue the original much. The original was printed in such small numbers relative to today's production runs in a vinyl-resurgent world. It will always be the original and if they keep it the only version on colored wax that would even further add to collectibility for those who care about such things. 
    I'm not against it, but was trying to point out it's possible it never gets reissued.  When it came out the 10c specifically said it was limited edition, so as much as people ask, they might stick to that.   On the other hand, they've changed their minds before, so there's always hope.
    The wine colored Benaroya Hall 4 LP set was limited edition. 

    A black colored version Benaroya Hall would not falsify that the wine colored Benaroya Hall is still limited to 2,000 copies. Integrity preserved. 
  • PJammin'
    PJammin' Posts: 1,913
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJammin' said:
    The only people that care about a re-issue are the ones that want to profit off of it. 🤷‍♂️ 
    I just want to spin it.  
    I mean, the people that don’t want it to happen.  
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,889
    edited February 2023
    mookieblalock said:
    Zod said:
    JBob87 said:
    Guarantee everyone against a reissue already owns one. Bunch of vinyl NIMBYs  ;)

    IMO mass producing a simple version of this on black wax would not devalue the original much. The original was printed in such small numbers relative to today's production runs in a vinyl-resurgent world. It will always be the original and if they keep it the only version on colored wax that would even further add to collectibility for those who care about such things. 
    I'm not against it, but was trying to point out it's possible it never gets reissued.  When it came out the 10c specifically said it was limited edition, so as much as people ask, they might stick to that.   On the other hand, they've changed their minds before, so there's always hope.
    The wine colored Benaroya Hall 4 LP set was limited edition. 

    A black colored version Benaroya Hall would not falsify that the wine colored Benaroya Hall is still limited to 2,000 copies. Integrity preserved. 

    I think when they announced it, it wasn't their intent that one day they would release it any form.  I think it was their intent it was a limited edition released.

    That being said, I don't think it really matters if they go against it, and put out a duplicate, new version with new color, etc.. I guess it depends if they ever intend to reissue something they originally intended to press once and make it limited edition.  I don't think anyone back then (When only diehards were still buying vinyl) would of predicted how popular vinyl has gotten.
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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,669
    After 20 years, even owners of the OG would want another to spin , right?
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  • demetrios
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    PJammer4life said:
    After 20 years, even owners of the OG would want another to spin , right?
    Right.
  • anakin_pdx
    anakin_pdx Posts: 396
    PJammer4life said:
    After 20 years, even owners of the OG would want another to spin , right?
    Yep.  Have it, and I was at the show, so when I spin it, it's an experience for me and it takes me back.  I only spin it on very rare occasions now and when I do, I'm always afraid I'll mess it up.  It never happens, but the thought is still there.  As long a a reissue sounded as good I'd spin that much more frequently and would be glad to have it.

    Listening to the cd works of coarse, but for me when I listen to a record that's all I'm doing and I'm in the moment.  A cd I easily get distracted and do other things.
  • demetrios
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    goldrush said:
    StardogChamp79 said:
    When is the anniversary of the Benny anyways?
    The 20th anniversary of the show is October 22 this year.
    The 20th anniversary of it being released isn't until July 2024

    It would be so sweet if they do reissue the vinyl on October 22nd 2023.

  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,939
    anakin_pdx said:
    PJammer4life said:
    After 20 years, even owners of the OG would want another to spin , right?
    Yep.  Have it, and I was at the show, so when I spin it, it's an experience for me and it takes me back.  I only spin it on very rare occasions now and when I do, I'm always afraid I'll mess it up.  It never happens, but the thought is still there.  As long a a reissue sounded as good I'd spin that much more frequently and would be glad to have it.

    Listening to the cd works of coarse, but for me when I listen to a record that's all I'm doing and I'm in the moment.  A cd I easily get distracted and do other things.
    I don't understand this. Why would the format make a difference? How is a CD more distracting than a record?
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