That is great that you all don't feel the need to have a gun, so why does it bother you that I am a responsible gun owner... What is your issue with this.
Do any of you have families??? do you have locks on your door, if so why???
I don't have an issue with you being a responsible gun owner. I have an issue with you living in a society where you feel the need to have one. I also have a major issue with someone who isn't as responsible as you owning a gun. This is the person you feel the need to protect yourself from.
As for a family my wife and I have 5 daughters and a son between us.
please show me this eutopian(sp) society before guns were invented.
That is great that you all don't feel the need to have a gun, so why does it bother you that I am a responsible gun owner... What is your issue with this.
Do any of you have families??? do you have locks on your door, if so why???
define responsible?
all the guys in this link were 'responsible' ... i know you won't read it, but all of them committed mass shooting sprees with legally acquired weapons.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
wow, you are really stretching to try and make that point. Violent crime is not something which is exclusive to America, and we can play the what if game until we are all blue in the face, perhaps already there. Fact is, gun ownership in the states has done nothing to deter criminals, and if anything, has caused more harm to the citizenry.
In my opinion, for what it's worth, it is by far and away the most backward aspect of America. What good has it done, I don't own a gun, nor do any of my family or friends, we're all still here, the world hasn't ended. But then it must be said, if my friends and family were exposed to the sheer level of dangerous, bigoted, biased propaganda costumed as media, then yeah I guess I'd be scared shitless enough to think they (the Muslims, or Chinese, or Commies, or Liberals, or Killer Bees, or Mexicans etc etc etc...) were coming to rape and kill my family.
Why do you just make up shit... Fact is that gun ownership have deter criminals. Look at my first post in this thread. The one with all the facts and stats. No one other than me has posted a single facts. So shut the fuck up and quit making shit up.
I'm not making it up - i really don't own, nor do I know of anyone who owns, a gun
wow, you are really stretching to try and make that point. Violent crime is not something which is exclusive to America, and we can play the what if game until we are all blue in the face, perhaps already there. Fact is, gun ownership in the states has done nothing to deter criminals, and if anything, has caused more harm to the citizenry.
In my opinion, for what it's worth, it is by far and away the most backward aspect of America. What good has it done, I don't own a gun, nor do any of my family or friends, we're all still here, the world hasn't ended. But then it must be said, if my friends and family were exposed to the sheer level of dangerous, bigoted, biased propaganda costumed as media, then yeah I guess I'd be scared shitless enough to think they (the Muslims, or Chinese, or Commies, or Liberals, or Killer Bees, or Mexicans etc etc etc...) were coming to rape and kill my family.
Why do you just make up shit... Fact is that gun ownership have deter criminals. Look at my first post in this thread. The one with all the facts and stats. No one other than me has posted a single facts. So shut the fuck up and quit making shit up.
I'm not making it up - i really don't own, nor do I know of anyone who owns, a gun
You know I am talking about the first part of your post.
That is great that you all don't feel the need to have a gun, so why does it bother you that I am a responsible gun owner... What is your issue with this.
Do any of you have families??? do you have locks on your door, if so why???
I don't have an issue with you being a responsible gun owner. I have an issue with you living in a society where you feel the need to have one. I also have a major issue with someone who isn't as responsible as you owning a gun. This is the person you feel the need to protect yourself from.
As for a family my wife and I have 5 daughters and a son between us.
please show me this eutopian(sp) society before guns were invented.
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Utopian society? I don't remember mentioning or describing a Utopian Society.
I don't agree with owning guns. Useless to me. If I had a time machine and could only use it for one thing, it would be to eliminate the invention of the thing. And yes, I have a wife and two beautiful daughters. But I don't think it's necessarily gun ownership, it's the culture.
Responsible gun ownership does NOT 100% prevent accidents. FACT.
Yeah, nobody said anything about a utpian society. Its just simply taking a long look at the lists of mass shootings recenlty and absolutely horrific losses of life that occur such as this little nine year old girl -- and one cant help to wonder that if guns werent so easily available, maybe much of this needless violence could be minimized.
I live in a very violent are in south florida (gangs), and i've had a tough time deciding wehter or not I need a weapon. (or if I ever needed one, would it be readily available?) Am I a responsible owner if I keep it locked an loaded under my pillow? because if its not locked up in a safe, its not likely that i'll be able to get to it in an emergency.
I don't agree with owning guns. Useless to me. If I had a time machine and could only use it for one thing, it would be to eliminate the invention of the thing. And yes, I have a wife and two beautiful daughters. But I don't think it's necessarily gun ownership, it's the culture.
Responsible gun ownership does NOT 100% prevent accidents. FACT.
Yeah your right, its the culture :roll:
I have my shotgun for one reason only, Home protection. I guess thats not good enough reason for your some of you...
I personally don't understand why you have to be so disrespectful of others' opinions.
nope, it's not good enough for me. what would happen I woke with a start and I thougth someone was breaking in, only to grab my gun and to shoot the "assailant" only to find I just shot my daughter who was just going to the bathroom? Don't say it doesn't happen, gun accidents by fearful people happen all the time. That's enough reason for me not to own one.
I don't agree with owning guns. Useless to me. If I had a time machine and could only use it for one thing, it would be to eliminate the invention of the thing. And yes, I have a wife and two beautiful daughters. But I don't think it's necessarily gun ownership, it's the culture.
Responsible gun ownership does NOT 100% prevent accidents. FACT.
Yeah your right, its the culture :roll:
I have my shotgun for one reason only, Home protection. I guess thats not good enough reason for your some of you...
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Yeah, nobody said anything about a utpian society. Its just simply taking a long look at the lists of mass shootings recenlty and absolutely horrific losses of life that occur such as this little nine year old girl -- and one cant help to wonder that if guns werent so easily available, maybe much of this needless violence could be minimized.
I live in a very violent are in south florida (gangs), and i've had a tough time deciding wehter or not I need a weapon. (or if I ever needed one, would it be readily available?) Am I a responsible owner if I keep it locked an loaded under my pillow? because if its not locked up in a safe, its not likely that i'll be able to get to it in an emergency.
Thats why you should take precautions - ie - deadbolts, alarm systems, etc. Having thoughs will most likely give you time to get what you need. Guns /= bad, Bad people with guns = bad. I have a wife and kids and live in a neighborhood that has had 1 armed robbery in 2010. 1 is not alot but when that house is 200 feet away from mine, I will take every precaution necessary, and if that means owning a gun. Then your damn right I will.
I personally don't understand why you have to be so disrespectful of others' opinions.
nope, it's not good enough for me. what would happen I woke with a start and I thougth someone was breaking in, only to grab my gun and to shoot the "assailant" only to find I just shot my daughter who was just going to the bathroom? Don't say it doesn't happen, gun accidents by fearful people happen all the time. That's enough reason for me not to own one.
I am not being disrespectful but you act as if crimes don't happen. Why would you shot without knowing who was there, Don't you think if you heard someone in your house you would check to see if you kids are safe first??? I sounds from your example that it is good that you don't own a gun, you would not be a responsible gun owner if you not even going to identify who you are shooting at...
I personally don't understand why you have to be so disrespectful of others' opinions.
nope, it's not good enough for me. what would happen I woke with a start and I thougth someone was breaking in, only to grab my gun and to shoot the "assailant" only to find I just shot my daughter who was just going to the bathroom? Don't say it doesn't happen, gun accidents by fearful people happen all the time. That's enough reason for me not to own one.
I am not being disrespectful but you act as if crimes don't happen. Why would you shot without knowing who was there, Don't you think if you heard someone in your house you would check to see if you kids are safe first??? I sounds from your example that it is good that you don't own a gun, you would not be a responsible gun owner if you not even going to identify who you are shooting at...
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I personally don't understand why you have to be so disrespectful of others' opinions.
nope, it's not good enough for me. what would happen I woke with a start and I thougth someone was breaking in, only to grab my gun and to shoot the "assailant" only to find I just shot my daughter who was just going to the bathroom? Don't say it doesn't happen, gun accidents by fearful people happen all the time. That's enough reason for me not to own one.
I am not being disrespectful but you act as if crimes don't happen. Why would you shot without knowing who was there, Don't you think if you heard someone in your house you would check to see if you kids are safe first??? I sounds from your example that it is good that you don't own a gun, you would not be a responsible gun owner if you not even going to identify who you are shooting at...
That example shows carelessness of a gun owner, not accident but blatant disreguard for the responsibilites of owning a gun. Why would you use that example as why you would never own one. Are you not responsible enough to look at and identify what you are shooting at???
the person in that situation didn't feel they had the time to discern who they were shooting at. they honestly believed it was an intruder.
regardless, that one situation obviously is not the one and only reason I wouldn't own a gun. The point is accidents happen. Do you think you are immune from accidents? even the most responsible gun owner can still have an accident, any type of accident. are you denying that?
That example shows carelessness of a gun owner, not accident but blatant disreguard for the responsibilites of owning a gun. Why would you use that example as why you would never own one. Are you not responsible enough to look at and identify what you are shooting at???
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A New Haven police officer shot his daughter in the knee Tuesday after he mistook her for a burglar as she tried to sneak into her home after a late-night rendezvous with her boyfriend, police said.
New Haven police Officer Eric Scott, 41, who has been on medical leave from his job since he was hit and dragged by a truck in November, fired one shot from his Glock service weapon at what he thought was an intruder at his Soundview Avenue home at 1:09 a.m. Tuesday, police said.
It turned out to be his 18-year-old daughter, Tasha.
"She apparently snuck out to go to her boyfriend's," Stratford police spokesman Capt. Christopher Marino said. "He interrupted what he thought was a burglar. He heard a noise and saw something in the shadows, and shot."
Scott was not charged with any crime. According to police, he was asleep when a motion-sensitive light in the rear of his home activated, and Scott loaded his service weapon and went to look.
Checking the house, Scott found that a basement door that had been locked when he went to bed was now open, and Scott fired a single round at a "shadow moving in the basement bathroom," which turned out to be his daughter.
Scott called 911 after making the discovery, police said, and the daughter was taken to Bridgeport Hospital where she underwent surgery. The bullet traveled up her leg and lodged in her thigh area, police said. Tasha Scott was listed in critical but stable condition Tuesday evening, the hospital said.
Scott wouldn't comment on the incident later Tuesday. However, several law enforcement officials questioned Scott's tactics, sources said. Police Capt. Thomas Rodia, commander of the Stratford detective bureau, did not return calls late Tuesday. A police report makes no mention that Scott shouted or identified himself before he fired.
While Scott, a nine-year veteran of the New Haven department, was not charged in the shooting, the matter will be forwarded to the state's attorney's office in Bridgeport, Marino said.
New Haven police spokeswoman Bonnie Posick said that because Scott is out of work on injured status, there is no need to take any administrative action after the shooting.
In the Nov. 10 accident in New Haven, Scott was behind an AT&T truck as it started to back up Forbes Avenue and collect traffic cones. Somehow, the truck backed over Scott, who was directing traffic, and he frantically shouted into his radio for help as stunned motorists tried to get the attention of the driver.
Stratford police are still investigating the shooting, and once completed, the results will be turned over to Bridgeport State's Attorney Jonathan Benedict for review, police said.
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Yes, because it’s common sense to disarm the law abiding citizens. Do you know what happens when a government disarms law abiding citizens? The bad guys keep their guns, and their job just got easier. Do you understand why our founding fathers put it in our constitution that we have the right to bear arms? I really don’t think you do.
Hypothetically, if there were no guns. This guy would have used a bomb. More people would have died. That’s brilliant!
So you would rather that 6,500 people a day use a butter knife to defend themselves against criminals
I have never in my life felt that I should have a gun to protect myself or my family. If you feel you need to in the States then it's a very sick place to be.
Funny because the only place I have ever been robbed is outside of London at a "Little Chef".
I don't agree with owning guns. Useless to me. If I had a time machine and could only use it for one thing, it would be to eliminate the invention of the thing. And yes, I have a wife and two beautiful daughters. But I don't think it's necessarily gun ownership, it's the culture.
Responsible gun ownership does NOT 100% prevent accidents. FACT.
Why is it so hard to understand that if there were no guns, you would be here spouting the same talking points about knives, or something else!?!?! Guns do not hurt people, people hurt people. If there were no guns, people would use another tool to hurt people.
FACT: Responsible gun ownership DOES 100% prevent accidents. If you have an accident, you are not a responsible gun owner.
I have never in my life felt that I should have a gun to protect myself or my family. If you feel you need to in the States then it's a very sick place to be.
Funny because the only place I have ever been robbed is outside of London at a "Little Chef".
well i'll come back to you after I have won the lottery and been struck by lightning... both of which are about as likely to happen as the scenario you have so lavishly painted for us.
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You beat me to it. But seriously, Dunk, here in America, would-be rapists break into our homes on a nightly basis. I shot three last week and that was a slow one...
FACT: Responsible gun ownership DOES 100% prevent accidents. If you have an accident, you are not a responsible gun owner.
I'm going to 100% disagree with this.
At least what some people consider 'responsible'...
If you own a gun, there is NO way possible that you can ensure 100% that there will never be an accident, no matter how responsible you are.
You can lock the damn thing up in the closet and hide the key. But what if your house is robbed and the safe is stolen and hacked. Are you no longer a responsible gun owner, even though you've done everything that is usually considered 'responsible'?
That is great that you all don't feel the need to have a gun, so why does it bother you that I am a responsible gun owner... What is your issue with this.
Do any of you have families??? do you have locks on your door, if so why???
The strangest thing in our community we don't lock our doors even when we go on vacation. We don't lock our cars, I even leave the keys in the car when ever I want. Even if that wasn't the case where I live I still don't feel the need to own a gun. Way out here in Palm Beach County I pretty sure they are gun owners in this community. I don't need a gun even though I've been trained in using them. I was an expert marksman able to breakdown an M60 in 2 minutes or less then put it back together in less than 2 minutes. Same with the M16.
I'm more fearful one of these children of mine will get their hands on a gun, if I had one and do harm to themselves or someone else. Unless that gun is on your person while in your home i find it rather useless if a would be intruder wants to do you harm. If an intruder truly wants to do you harm there's not much one can do with a gun without risk your own family members getting to it first.
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I thought this thread was about the poor little girl who was killed....some of you are using it for gun ownership debate, little self centered and self serving don't ya think. :shock:
A New Haven police officer shot his daughter in the knee Tuesday after he mistook her for a burglar as she tried to sneak into her home after a late-night rendezvous with her boyfriend, police said.
New Haven police Officer Eric Scott, 41, who has been on medical leave from his job since he was hit and dragged by a truck in November, fired one shot from his Glock service weapon at what he thought was an intruder at his Soundview Avenue home at 1:09 a.m. Tuesday, police said.
It turned out to be his 18-year-old daughter, Tasha.
"She apparently snuck out to go to her boyfriend's," Stratford police spokesman Capt. Christopher Marino said. "He interrupted what he thought was a burglar. He heard a noise and saw something in the shadows, and shot."
Scott was not charged with any crime. According to police, he was asleep when a motion-sensitive light in the rear of his home activated, and Scott loaded his service weapon and went to look.
Checking the house, Scott found that a basement door that had been locked when he went to bed was now open, and Scott fired a single round at a "shadow moving in the basement bathroom," which turned out to be his daughter.
Scott called 911 after making the discovery, police said, and the daughter was taken to Bridgeport Hospital where she underwent surgery. The bullet traveled up her leg and lodged in her thigh area, police said. Tasha Scott was listed in critical but stable condition Tuesday evening, the hospital said.
Scott wouldn't comment on the incident later Tuesday. However, several law enforcement officials questioned Scott's tactics, sources said. Police Capt. Thomas Rodia, commander of the Stratford detective bureau, did not return calls late Tuesday. A police report makes no mention that Scott shouted or identified himself before he fired.
While Scott, a nine-year veteran of the New Haven department, was not charged in the shooting, the matter will be forwarded to the state's attorney's office in Bridgeport, Marino said.
New Haven police spokeswoman Bonnie Posick said that because Scott is out of work on injured status, there is no need to take any administrative action after the shooting.
In the Nov. 10 accident in New Haven, Scott was behind an AT&T truck as it started to back up Forbes Avenue and collect traffic cones. Somehow, the truck backed over Scott, who was directing traffic, and he frantically shouted into his radio for help as stunned motorists tried to get the attention of the driver.
Stratford police are still investigating the shooting, and once completed, the results will be turned over to Bridgeport State's Attorney Jonathan Benedict for review, police said.
This is the kids fault!, you know your dads a cop and you try to sneak into your own home? you gotta be smarter than that, my dad was a correction officer, he had three guns in the house, i knew where there were, because if i ever woke up to somebody sneaking into the house i was to shoot them.
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I thought this thread was about the poor little girl who was killed....some of you are using it for gun ownership debate, little self centered and self serving don't ya think. :shock:
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Yes it's all sad.....she was born on a day of violence and she died on a day with violence. That is very sad...especially since she wanted or was interested in politics even did so in her school.
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actually, no I wouldn't. Guns have no use in modern society. knives/sledgehammers/screwdrivers/etc do. I would absolutely not be asking for their ban if there were no guns. that's a ludicrous claim and you know it. that's like saying I think neckties shoud be banned because you could choke someone with them.
saying you are not a responsible gun owner if you have an accident is ignorant. what you are effectively saying is that anyone who has a car accident is a bad driver, any person who has ever cut themselves is clumsy, anyone who's ever had a cold is a dirty germ-infested slime.
if you are out hunting, and a rabbit runs up behind you and gets in your feet, you trip, your gun flies out of your hands and hits the ground, causing the safety to come off, goes off and hits one of your friends, you are not a responsible gun owner? that's called happenstance, my friend, not irresponsibility.
Why is it so hard to understand that if there were no guns, you would be here spouting the same talking points about knives, or something else!?!?! Guns do not hurt people, people hurt people. If there were no guns, people would use another tool to hurt people.
FACT: Responsible gun ownership DOES 100% prevent accidents. If you have an accident, you are not a responsible gun owner.
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threads like this inevitibly turn in those directions. I don't think anyone is intentionally using this thread as a vehicle for their own agenda, it's an emotional topic, which brings up related emotional topics.
I thought this thread was about the poor little girl who was killed....some of you are using it for gun ownership debate, little self centered and self serving don't ya think. :shock:
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I don't know if anyone has posted this but the father of this girl was on TV, he said that there should be "no new restrictions".
Come back to me when your family is raped and killed because you were overpowered by criminals with guns... I am a responsible gun owner so i see no reason why I would forefit my safety of my family.
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Doesn't that mean... you have to carry your gun with you 100% of the time? I mean, when you are with your family... watching 'Dancing With The Stars'... are you sitting there, eating popcorn with a loaded 9mm on your lap? Because, those criminals... are they going to let you go get your gun before they start raping and killing your family? And what about when you are sleeping? Are they going to wake you up and let you get your loaded gun before they start their crime spree?
If so... you have you gun... loaded with a round chambered... in your house... all of the time... with kids around? Is that what being responsible means?
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Come back to me when your family is raped and killed because you were overpowered by criminals with guns... I am a responsible gun owner so i see no reason why I would forefit my safety of my family.
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Doesn't that mean... you have to carry your gun with you 100% of the time? I mean, when you are with your family... watching 'Dancing With The Stars'... are you sitting there, eating popcorn with a loaded 9mm on your lap? Because, those criminals... are they going to let you go get your gun before they start raping and killing your family? And what about when you are sleeping? Are they going to wake you up and let you get your loaded gun before they start their crime spree?
If so... you have you gun... loaded with a round chambered... in your house... all of the time... with kids around? Is that what being responsible means?
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bottom line, Heidi, is that you feel you are safer with a gun in your house as you feel the risk of an intruder exceeds that of an accident. I feel the opposite. there are no stats or facts that will turn either of us the other way.
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define responsible?
all the guys in this link were 'responsible' ... i know you won't read it, but all of them committed mass shooting sprees with legally acquired weapons.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/0 ... 84391.html
I'm not making it up - i really don't own, nor do I know of anyone who owns, a gun
Responsible gun ownership does NOT 100% prevent accidents. FACT.
http://everything2.com/title/Comparative+statistics+for+gun+ownership%252C+homicide+and+suicide+rates
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I live in a very violent are in south florida (gangs), and i've had a tough time deciding wehter or not I need a weapon. (or if I ever needed one, would it be readily available?) Am I a responsible owner if I keep it locked an loaded under my pillow? because if its not locked up in a safe, its not likely that i'll be able to get to it in an emergency.
I have my shotgun for one reason only, Home protection. I guess thats not good enough reason for your some of you...
nope, it's not good enough for me. what would happen I woke with a start and I thougth someone was breaking in, only to grab my gun and to shoot the "assailant" only to find I just shot my daughter who was just going to the bathroom? Don't say it doesn't happen, gun accidents by fearful people happen all the time. That's enough reason for me not to own one.
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and my example was based on a factual case. not me.
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regardless, that one situation obviously is not the one and only reason I wouldn't own a gun. The point is accidents happen. Do you think you are immune from accidents? even the most responsible gun owner can still have an accident, any type of accident. are you denying that?
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A New Haven police officer shot his daughter in the knee Tuesday after he mistook her for a burglar as she tried to sneak into her home after a late-night rendezvous with her boyfriend, police said.
New Haven police Officer Eric Scott, 41, who has been on medical leave from his job since he was hit and dragged by a truck in November, fired one shot from his Glock service weapon at what he thought was an intruder at his Soundview Avenue home at 1:09 a.m. Tuesday, police said.
It turned out to be his 18-year-old daughter, Tasha.
"She apparently snuck out to go to her boyfriend's," Stratford police spokesman Capt. Christopher Marino said. "He interrupted what he thought was a burglar. He heard a noise and saw something in the shadows, and shot."
Scott was not charged with any crime. According to police, he was asleep when a motion-sensitive light in the rear of his home activated, and Scott loaded his service weapon and went to look.
Checking the house, Scott found that a basement door that had been locked when he went to bed was now open, and Scott fired a single round at a "shadow moving in the basement bathroom," which turned out to be his daughter.
Scott called 911 after making the discovery, police said, and the daughter was taken to Bridgeport Hospital where she underwent surgery. The bullet traveled up her leg and lodged in her thigh area, police said. Tasha Scott was listed in critical but stable condition Tuesday evening, the hospital said.
Scott wouldn't comment on the incident later Tuesday. However, several law enforcement officials questioned Scott's tactics, sources said. Police Capt. Thomas Rodia, commander of the Stratford detective bureau, did not return calls late Tuesday. A police report makes no mention that Scott shouted or identified himself before he fired.
While Scott, a nine-year veteran of the New Haven department, was not charged in the shooting, the matter will be forwarded to the state's attorney's office in Bridgeport, Marino said.
New Haven police spokeswoman Bonnie Posick said that because Scott is out of work on injured status, there is no need to take any administrative action after the shooting.
In the Nov. 10 accident in New Haven, Scott was behind an AT&T truck as it started to back up Forbes Avenue and collect traffic cones. Somehow, the truck backed over Scott, who was directing traffic, and he frantically shouted into his radio for help as stunned motorists tried to get the attention of the driver.
Stratford police are still investigating the shooting, and once completed, the results will be turned over to Bridgeport State's Attorney Jonathan Benedict for review, police said.
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Funny because the only place I have ever been robbed is outside of London at a "Little Chef".
Why is it so hard to understand that if there were no guns, you would be here spouting the same talking points about knives, or something else!?!?! Guns do not hurt people, people hurt people. If there were no guns, people would use another tool to hurt people.
FACT: Responsible gun ownership DOES 100% prevent accidents. If you have an accident, you are not a responsible gun owner.
I'm going to 100% disagree with this.
At least what some people consider 'responsible'...
If you own a gun, there is NO way possible that you can ensure 100% that there will never be an accident, no matter how responsible you are.
You can lock the damn thing up in the closet and hide the key. But what if your house is robbed and the safe is stolen and hacked. Are you no longer a responsible gun owner, even though you've done everything that is usually considered 'responsible'?
The strangest thing in our community we don't lock our doors even when we go on vacation. We don't lock our cars, I even leave the keys in the car when ever I want. Even if that wasn't the case where I live I still don't feel the need to own a gun. Way out here in Palm Beach County I pretty sure they are gun owners in this community. I don't need a gun even though I've been trained in using them. I was an expert marksman able to breakdown an M60 in 2 minutes or less then put it back together in less than 2 minutes. Same with the M16.
I'm more fearful one of these children of mine will get their hands on a gun, if I had one and do harm to themselves or someone else. Unless that gun is on your person while in your home i find it rather useless if a would be intruder wants to do you harm. If an intruder truly wants to do you harm there's not much one can do with a gun without risk your own family members getting to it first.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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This is the kids fault!, you know your dads a cop and you try to sneak into your own home? you gotta be smarter than that, my dad was a correction officer, he had three guns in the house, i knew where there were, because if i ever woke up to somebody sneaking into the house i was to shoot them.
Yes it's all sad.....she was born on a day of violence and she died on a day with violence. That is very sad...especially since she wanted or was interested in politics even did so in her school.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
saying you are not a responsible gun owner if you have an accident is ignorant. what you are effectively saying is that anyone who has a car accident is a bad driver, any person who has ever cut themselves is clumsy, anyone who's ever had a cold is a dirty germ-infested slime.
if you are out hunting, and a rabbit runs up behind you and gets in your feet, you trip, your gun flies out of your hands and hits the ground, causing the safety to come off, goes off and hits one of your friends, you are not a responsible gun owner? that's called happenstance, my friend, not irresponsibility.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... j47lB1a-0Y
Doesn't that mean... you have to carry your gun with you 100% of the time? I mean, when you are with your family... watching 'Dancing With The Stars'... are you sitting there, eating popcorn with a loaded 9mm on your lap? Because, those criminals... are they going to let you go get your gun before they start raping and killing your family? And what about when you are sleeping? Are they going to wake you up and let you get your loaded gun before they start their crime spree?
If so... you have you gun... loaded with a round chambered... in your house... all of the time... with kids around? Is that what being responsible means?
Hail, Hail!!!
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peace.
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