US Congresswoman shot today in Arizona

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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    aerial wrote:
    ....I'm talking about the champion of killing babies.

    Yay, another pathetic attempt at propaganda to make someone look bad!
    This lady championed killing babies?! cool. If its abortion you're talking about, that is not commonly called a baby... its a fetus for godsake. Why dont you just say she championed killing adults too? and senior citizens while you're at it.
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  • blondieblue227blondieblue227 Va, USA Posts: 4,509
    "it's time to reload"

    i'm not surprised the shooting has happened just sad. it's was only a matter of time. you can't use that kind of violent language over and over. sure the reps can condemn violence all they want. it's not responsible to be using that kind of language.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    Aerial and the shooter........

    One and the same.......
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    i love how people just assume he's a tea party supporter. :? where are you seeing this? where are you seeing he is a palin supporter? are you just hoping he is?

    i saw somewhere his two favorite books are mein kampf and the communist manifesto. he's all over the place.

    apparently he is obsessed with mind control and thought he could create his own currency or something. dude is nuts. bottom line.

    it's sad day.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,250
    aerial wrote:
    Davidtrios wrote:
    RIP Gabrielle Griffords- a true champion for abortion rights and healthcare reform.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSnJLSRAUcE

    Championed the killing of infants......Karma or a consequences to that action?

    Whoa you are way more warped than i thought you were :twisted: Idiot ..
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    So glad this nut job was not given the time to kill himself. IT will be interesting to see how this story develops and more and more information comes out. Needless to say the fact that he arbitrarily killed a child will not sit well with his fellow grown men prisoners. Me thinks he will have a tough time in prison.

    Let's cool it with blaming anyone for this. unnecessary until the whole story comes out
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    So glad this nut job was not given the time to kill himself. IT will be interesting to see how this story develops and more and more information comes out. Needless to say the fact that he arbitrarily killed a child will not sit well with his fellow grown men prisoners. Me thinks he will have a tough time in prison.

    Let's cool it with blaming anyone for this. unnecessary until the whole story comes out


    i agree with all of this.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,898
    i love how people just assume he's a tea party supporter. :? where are you seeing this? where are you seeing he is a palin supporter? are you just hoping he is?

    i saw somewhere his two favorite books are mein kampf and the communist manifesto. he's all over the place.

    apparently he is obsessed with mind control and thought he could create his own currency or something. dude is nuts. bottom line.

    it's sad day.

    Well it is tough on first reaction not assume he is a tea party supporter in a state like Arizona, especially with her offices getting attacked.

    Yes, this dude is absolutely nuts. Regardless of whether this guy is a tea party supporter or not, the political discourse in this country is disgusting and encourages this shit. It was only a matter of time.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    i love how people just assume he's a tea party supporter. :? where are you seeing this? where are you seeing he is a palin supporter? are you just hoping he is?

    i saw somewhere his two favorite books are mein kampf and the communist manifesto. he's all over the place.

    apparently he is obsessed with mind control and thought he could create his own currency or something. dude is nuts. bottom line.

    it's sad day.

    Well it is tough on first reaction not assume he is a tea party supporter in a state like Arizona, especially with her offices getting attacked.

    Yes, this dude is absolutely nuts. Regardless of whether this guy is a tea party supporter or not, the political discourse in this country is disgusting and encourages this shit. It was only a matter of time.

    All true.

    He is about the age that it's not uncommon to see a schizophrenic patient have their first break, with little warning.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,898
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    i love how people just assume he's a tea party supporter. :? where are you seeing this? where are you seeing he is a palin supporter? are you just hoping he is?

    i saw somewhere his two favorite books are mein kampf and the communist manifesto. he's all over the place.

    apparently he is obsessed with mind control and thought he could create his own currency or something. dude is nuts. bottom line.

    it's sad day.

    Well it is tough on first reaction not assume he is a tea party supporter in a state like Arizona, especially with her offices getting attacked.

    Yes, this dude is absolutely nuts. Regardless of whether this guy is a tea party supporter or not, the political discourse in this country is disgusting and encourages this shit. It was only a matter of time.

    All true.

    He is about the age that it's not uncommon to see a schizophrenic patient have their first break, with little warning.

    It's funny you say that. I just started on the marketing for a new schizophrenia drug and I had no clue it started that early until recently. It's sad and really crazy.
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    Cliffy6745 wrote:

    He is about the age that it's not uncommon to see a schizophrenic patient have their first break, with little warning.

    It's funny you say that. I just started on the marketing for a new schizophrenia drug and I had no clue it started that early until recently. It's sad and really crazy.

    I worked in emergency departments in Boston, and recall a couple of cases when we had college-age males brought in by police and EMS after having their first break. Usually some kind of violent or paranoid outburst. So tragic, the families were always just blown away by the diagnosis.
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  • I have been reading countless posts on this subject over numerous sites, and continue to see basically the same comments again and again. "Oh its the Tea Party and their Violent rhetoric" "This was bound to happen" etc. I am sorry to say, but what the hell happened to accountability in this country? Some nutball goes out and savagely and grotesquely takes 6 innocent human lives and another 12 are critically wounded, and everyone is looking for a scape goat to align their political ideologies. WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH US PEOPLE?!?! Lets take a look at ourselves, reflect on the tragedy that is this monstrosity and count our blessings for our lives, our loved ones, and the air we breath. We are not forced to listen to any ideology, we are no forced to align ourselves with any party, so why then when a tragedy happens whatever opposing party slightly associated with the deplorable act becomes political conspiracy. Again take a look inside, think about your choices, think about possible consequences. Remember folks, we are all here together, and as much as I am not fond of it, all the time, we need each other. Enough of my ranting, Eddie says it best below...

    He could’ve tuned in, tuned in
    But he tuned out
    A bad time, nothing could save him
    Alone in a corridor, waiting, locked out
    He got up outta there, ran for hundreds of miles
    He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree
    The wind rose up, set him down on his knee

    A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw
    Delivered him wings, "Hey, look at him now"
    Arms wide open with the sea as his floor
    Oh, power, oh

    He's.. flying
    Whole…
    High.. wide, oh

    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share
    His key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere
    But first he was stripped and then he was stabbed
    By faceless men, well, fuckers
    He still stands

    And he still gives his love, he just gives it away
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
    And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
    A human being that was given to fly

    High.. flying
    Oh, oh
    High.. flying
    Oh, oh
    He’s…flying
    Oh, oh
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,257
    I have been reading countless posts on this subject over numerous sites, and continue to see basically the same comments again and again. "Oh its the Tea Party and their Violent rhetoric" "This was bound to happen" etc. I am sorry to say, but what the hell happened to accountability in this country? Some nutball goes out and savagely and grotesquely takes 6 innocent human lives and another 12 are critically wounded, and everyone is looking for a scape goat to align their political ideologies. WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH US PEOPLE?!?! Lets take a look at ourselves, reflect on the tragedy that is this monstrosity and count our blessings for our lives, our loved ones, and the air we breath. We are not forced to listen to any ideology, we are no forced to align ourselves with any party, so why then when a tragedy happens whatever opposing party slightly associated with the deplorable act becomes political conspiracy. Again take a look inside, think about your choices, think about possible consequences. Remember folks, we are all here together, and as much as I am not fond of it, all the time, we need each other. Enough of my ranting, Eddie says it best below...

    He could’ve tuned in, tuned in
    But he tuned out
    A bad time, nothing could save him
    Alone in a corridor, waiting, locked out
    He got up outta there, ran for hundreds of miles
    He made it to the ocean, had a smoke in a tree
    The wind rose up, set him down on his knee

    A wave came crashing like a fist to the jaw
    Delivered him wings, "Hey, look at him now"
    Arms wide open with the sea as his floor
    Oh, power, oh

    He's.. flying
    Whole…
    High.. wide, oh

    He floated back down 'cause he wanted to share
    His key to the locks on the chains he saw everywhere
    But first he was stripped and then he was stabbed
    By faceless men, well, fuckers
    He still stands

    And he still gives his love, he just gives it away
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
    And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
    A human being that was given to fly

    High.. flying
    Oh, oh
    High.. flying
    Oh, oh
    He’s…flying
    Oh, oh

    that's a helluva first post dude. well done.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    The 9 year old girl that died was former MLB manager's Dallas Green's granddaughter.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... mlb-305133
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  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    Newch91 wrote:
    The 9 year old girl that died was former MLB manager's Dallas Green's granddaughter.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... mlb-305133

    I know that you didn't mean it that way, but we only ever seem to concentrate on or care about, those, in any of these situations, who are famous or connected to some famous person somehow.

    Everyone on of these people were killed and everyone of their families is mourning just the same, famous or not,

    so i thought that we should hear these names, and give a little moment of silence, or a little space in our hearts, or send out good vibes, or pray, or whatever it is that you do, for each of these souls and their folks:

    63-year-old U.S. District Judge John Roll

    76-year-old Dorthy Murray

    76-year-old Dorwin Stoddard

    9-year-old Christina Greene

    79-year-old Phyllis Scheck

    30-year-old Giffords' staffer Gabe Zimmerman

    and 13 other as yet unnamed wounded
    peace,
    jo

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  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    i love how people just assume he's a tea party supporter. :? where are you seeing this? where are you seeing he is a palin supporter? are you just hoping he is?

    Oh I'm sure many on here are just salivating at the possibility that this nut job was a tea party supporter. In fact, I'd be willing to bet they even have a bit of excitement welling up inside at the prospect. Funny though, I expect this place to be as silent as a morgue if it proves he's anything but that.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm sure some here will be celebrating the thought and lose the real focus that people got hurt, and some lost their lives.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    arthurdent wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    arthurdent wrote:
    10-1 odds it's a Tea Partier



    :evil:


    What a loser.

    he reminds me of you and aerial, actually.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

    You need to find a hobby. Comparing two people that you disagree with politically to a murderer shows how weak minded you are.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    StillHere wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    The 9 year old girl that died was former MLB manager's Dallas Green's granddaughter.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_le ... mlb-305133

    I know that you didn't mean it that way, but we only ever seem to concentrate on or care about, those, in any of these situations, who are famous or connected to some famous person somehow.

    Everyone on of these people were killed and everyone of their families is mourning just the same, famous or not,

    so i thought that we should hear these names, and give a little moment of silence, or a little space in our hearts, or send out good vibes, or pray, or whatever it is that you do, for each of these souls and their folks:

    63-year-old U.S. District Judge John Roll

    76-year-old Dorthy Murray

    76-year-old Dorwin Stoddard

    9-year-old Christina Greene

    79-year-old Phyllis Scheck

    30-year-old Giffords' staffer Gabe Zimmerman

    and 13 other as yet unnamed wounded

    A moment is of silence is just the right thing to do in the face of this tradegy. I can now only hear the ocean waves flow in here in Palm Beach.

    Peace everybody.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    edited January 2011
    One would think something so heinous and evil would bring people together...
    there is the karma.

    We should unite in love not the sham of politics.
    Politics is the power of the weak. Love is the true strength.
    How will the world ever come together?

    Some believe we choose how we leave this world before we come here.
    That there are souls who sacrifice to help others to learn love,
    some believe we are all connected.

    Go in love, rest in peace.
    Post edited by pandora on
  • unsung wrote:

    You need to find a hobby. Comparing two people that you disagree with politically to a murderer shows how weak minded you are.


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,250
    pandora wrote:
    One would think something so heinous and evil would bring people together...
    there is the karma.

    We should unite in love not the sham of politics.
    Politics is the power of the weak. Love is the true strength.
    How will the world ever come together?

    Some believe we chose how we leave this world before we come here.
    That there are souls who sacrifice to help others to learn love,
    some believe we are all connected.

    Go in love, rest in peace.

    Very well stated but there are some people here who just don't get that ..
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    arthurdent wrote:
    unsung wrote:

    You need to find a hobby. Comparing two people that you disagree with politically to a murderer shows how weak minded you are.


    you all smell the same to me


    Try extracting your head from your ass. Get some fresh air once in a while.
  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    pandora wrote:
    One would think something so heinous and evil would bring people together...
    there is the karma.

    We should unite in love not the sham of politics.
    Politics is the power of the weak. Love is the true strength.
    How will the world ever come together?

    Some believe we chose how we leave this world before we come here.
    That there are souls who sacrifice to help others to learn love,
    some believe we are all connected.

    Go in love, rest in peace.
    :clap:
    peace,
    jo

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  • The sheriff's statement at the press conference is really passionate and honest to me. I applaud him for not just reporting details, but his courage in speaking his mind about this repugnant act:

    "When you look at unbalanced people, how they respond to the vitriol that comes out of certain mouths about tearing down the government... The anger, the hatred, the bigotry that goes on in this country is outrageous."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12145076
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  • read this on a local message board:

    As someone who works with mentally ill, I can tell you right off that what they hear on the air waves affects them far more than people think and I have never yet seen one who seemed to be so affected by progressive thinkers. Every single one I have worked with with over the last 20 years has been far more influenced by the very right wing folks on FOX and on several of the Wichita radio stations both regular stations and the multiple "Christian Radio" stations. Because most seriously mentally ill respond to paranoia type thoughts and are fear based individuals, the right wing media really speaks to them. And many really think they are getting special messages from them when they are in their psychotic states. Where you might think Glenn or Rush is funny, a psychoti8c person takes their messages ina profoundly deep way
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  • arthurdent wrote:
    read this on a local message board:

    As someone who works with mentally ill, I can tell you right off that what they hear on the air waves affects them far more than people think and I have never yet seen one who seemed to be so affected by progressive thinkers. Every single one I have worked with with over the last 20 years has been far more influenced by the very right wing folks on FOX and on several of the Wichita radio stations both regular stations and the multiple "Christian Radio" stations. Because most seriously mentally ill respond to paranoia type thoughts and are fear based individuals, the right wing media really speaks to them. And many really think they are getting special messages from them when they are in their psychotic states. Where you might think Glenn or Rush is funny, a psychoti8c person takes their messages ina profoundly deep way
    That makes a lot of sense. Also considering the fact that right-wing media and tabloid journalism tends to thrive on outrage and emotive polemic, I can see how it could resonate strongly with someone who is paranoid or delusional.
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    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
    09: Manchester, London
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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    I hope this does bring us together as a country, but I'm struggling to find the optimism. And what does it means to come together? We need to reach a consensus that is better than "This was wrong". We need to understand, together, why this is happening, and what we can do about it.

    I'm going to jump right into a political issue that I don't see having been brought up yet (sorry if it has)...

    How long are we going to continue to live in this fantasy world where we think we can trust the fragile human mind with guns?! How can we be so permissive of the sale of a device that is easily hidden, transported and then used to kill several people within a matter of seconds?! How many more children are going to be caught in the crossfire?!?

    We haven't yet heard why this young man targeted the Congresswoman... it doesn't look like we can blame the Tea Party, and if we could, I don't think any of us who are the liberal end of the spectrum would be "celebrating". Just as I'm not celebrating this as yet another sad example of why our attitude towards gun ownership needs to change, even though I'm very passionate about the issue. But I understand why the Tea Party would be brought up. I think it's likely that the violent rhetoric some people so carelessly throw around has had an effect on this young man's mind... I think that is a valid concern, but I'm more concerned about our carelessness with guns. How many more shootings are we going to endure before we realize we must dramatically limit gun ownership!?
  • kenny olav wrote:
    I hope this does bring us together as a country, but I'm struggling to find the optimism. And what does it means to come together? We need to reach a consensus that is better than "This was wrong". We need to understand, together, why this is happening, and what we can do about it.

    I'm going to jump right into a political issue that I don't see having been brought up yet (sorry if it has)...

    How long are we going to continue to live in this fantasy world where we think we can trust the fragile human mind with guns?! How can we be so permissive of the sale of a device that is easily hidden, transported and then used to kill several people within a matter of seconds?! How many more children are going to be caught in the crossfire?!?

    We haven't yet heard why this young man targeted the Congresswoman... it doesn't look like we can blame the Tea Party, and if we could, I don't think any of us who are the liberal end of the spectrum would be "celebrating". Just as I'm not celebrating this as yet another sad example of why our attitude towards gun ownership needs to change, even though I'm very passionate about the issue. But I understand why the Tea Party would be brought up. I think it's likely that the violent rhetoric some people so carelessly throw around has had an effect on this young man's mind... I think that is a valid concern, but I'm more concerned about our carelessness with guns. How many more shootings are we going to endure before we realize we must dramatically limit gun ownership!?

    A fantastic post. I agree with you entirely.

    I don't think you can blame the Tea Party for the shooting. But you certainly can blame them for the unnecessary and irresponsible undertone of violence in their rhetoric. I would never imagine that the Tea Party would condone this act, and I'm sure they are just as shocked. But their rhetoric is geared towards calling for public action, and though they are not directly responsible for this man's actions, it's hard not to see this as fallout from such rhetoric, combined with the dangerously enabling environment of the US's ludicrously cavalier gun laws.
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    07: London, Copenhagen, Nijmegen
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  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    kenny olav wrote:

    How long are we going to continue to live in this fantasy world where we think we can trust the fragile human mind with guns?! How can we be so permissive of the sale of a device that is easily hidden, transported and then used to kill several people within a matter of seconds?! How many more children are going to be caught in the crossfire?!?

    This.
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