This is our band pulling some major bullshit and hoping we just swallow and fall in line. This is out of character and disappointing. I don't typically speak neg on the guys but this wreaks of bullshit. At some point this good deal was bound to go south. I guess pj was too good to keep from becoming dmb. : (
I guess the 10C president is receiving a raise or bonus in the near future.....Or maybe even both..
I gotta say, this is really the first thing the 10c has done that rubs me the wrong way-class/caste fan club system?
my gosh, that seems to go against everything I thought the band stood for-which is every member gets equal treatment (except for seating in reserved venues of course).
perhaps this is a result of their new partnership with that marketing/royalty tracking company whose name I forget
I dont begrudge PJ for seeking more revenue, just raise the fee $10. I begrudge them for creating two classes of fan club members. What a terrible idea.
BOO BOO BOO HISS HISS HISS (Uniondale style)
This better be the first question on the next AET broadcast or I will lose total faith in PJ fans. :!:
EDIT: Can it really be getting that much more expensive to produce vinyl? Is the the band just offering fans who really care about vinyl a tad more to offset the costs? Perhaps its not so evil. Hey you want vinyl, its gonna cost a bit more, and we will throw in a few extras. hmmmmm.............
At first, I liked this option but after some thinking... we are kind of getting the shaft.
They are pretty much taking away stuff from our membership and if you want hard copies you have to pay $50 for a Canadian membership and all we get extra is a t shirt?
I don't know why you would even bother getting the basic membership. You get fuck all.
I ordered Backspacer from the Ten Club before it was released and it took over three months after the release date for me to get it and even with that, I paid more for just the CD when people that bought it at CD stores got more freebees and paid less. I learned my lesson and next time I will be buying the new Pearl Jam album at a store on the release date. There is no incentive for me to pre order it here.
I had to think long and hard if I wanted to renew my membership last year. Didn't seem like I got much for the money I paid but it's going to cost me how much extra to get the same stuff?!
As of right now it's not looking too good that I will renew when the time comes.
I predict that Ten Club is going to lose a lot of members.
I can see some fan club members not renewing their 10c membership..The fan club members that don't have a great fan club number..Which they can probably get better tickets off ebay or ticketmasterfor pj concerts..
I predict that Ten Club is going to lose a lot of members.
meh probably from people with mediocre fan club members. I can't imagine people with low fan club members (150xxx or lower?) giving them up very easily.
Not happy at all with this. Why upgrade to an analog membership, doesn't make sense. Don't need a club t-shirt every year, I already have enough tshirts and prefer to pick and choose what I buy. How good a quality the ts are going to be remains to be seen. $20 to upgrade a fc membership is just plain over the top. Whoever said there should be a poll for us to choose what we want came up with an excellent idea. Whatever happened to the TWO Deep mags we were supposed to be getting each year, not to mention the non existent holiday single of 2010 that we're still waiting for! The whole thing is a sham and another way to fleece us for more money. Only reason I'm in the Ten Club is for seating priority, which only happens to us in Australia once every 3 or 4 years (with the exception of this year cos of Eddie's tour). Don't like this whole revised idea of having to pay more for very little. I'll be sticking to the cheaper membership, it's only a fan club and $50 is a ridiculous amount of money to pay for just a fan club membership, no matter what "extras" you get.
essentially paying $20 ($30 for international) more for what we're getting already..
this is ten pounds of monkey crap in a five pound bag
Well put.
But don't you know the rules? Rubysdad (Tim) says you can't criticize something if you haven't been in a band for 20 years and toured the world. That's what he posted when people gave valid complaints about the radio show on Sirius, like requesting that the show actually have some flow and not dead air. I do not think he will take kindly to these complaints, valid though they may be. I know you are wondering what band he was in for 20 years and toured the world with. I am too.
i disagree with most of the bs i've read in this thread, but i do agree with the fact that 10c is a bit sensitive and takes criticism a bit too personally sometimes.
Lot of whining here from folks. You think $40 is too much for a fan club membership which gives you so much? Are you ****ing kidding me? Consider yourselves lucky you've gotten all that you have for $20 per year this far.
I'd pay $100 per year for all 10c does for us. If you don't like the new system, drop your membership. Typical Americans with their spoiled sense of entitlement: gimme, gimme, gimme.
Umm..please enlighten me? What exactly does the fan club "give us?" What is "all that I have gotten" for the $20 years so far? The fan club magazine and vinyl are cool but there hasn't been much else.
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
This is our band pulling some major bullshit and hoping we just swallow and fall in line. This is out of character and disappointing. I don't typically speak neg on the guys but this wreaks of bullshit. At some point this good deal was bound to go south. I guess pj was too good to keep from becoming dmb. : (
It's not "our" band... its Eddie's, Stone's, Mike's, Jeffs, and Matt's
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
So, do we get two fan club singles next year?..Since we didn't receive one this year...The 10c can't even deliever the 10c vinyl singles on time...But, yet they want more money for you to receive the vinly single...Which again is never on time...
So, do we get two fan club singles next year?..Since we didn't receive one this year...The 10c can't even deliever the 10c vinyl singles on time...But, yet they want more money for you to receive the vinly single...Which again is never on time...
Jeremy
We received the 09 single earlier this year so the 2010 single will come next year, the 2011 single will probably arrive in 2012 and so on...
2003: San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Seattle; 2005: Monterrey; 2006: Chicago 1 & 2, Grand Rapids, Cleveland, Detroit; 2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa; 2009: Austin, LA 3 & 4, San Diego; 2010: Kansas City, St. Louis, Columbus, Indianapolis; 2011: PJ20 1 & 2; 2012: Missoula; 2013: Dallas, Oklahoma City, Seattle; 2014: Tulsa; 2016: Columbia, New York City 1 & 2; 2018: London, Seattle 1 & 2; 2021: Ohana; 2022: Oklahoma City
I would have no problem paying the $40 bucks...If the 10c would bring back the rumor pit....Which would gives us updates on things that are going on..Instead of receiving all the info from outside sources..
I gotta say, this is really the first thing the 10c has done that rubs me the wrong way-class/caste fan club system?
my gosh, that seems to go against everything I thought the band stood for-which is every member gets equal treatment (except for seating in reserved venues of course).
perhaps this is a result of their new partnership with that marketing/royalty tracking company whose name I forget
I dont begrudge PJ for seeking more revenue, just raise the fee $10. I begrudge them for creating two classes of fan club members. What a terrible idea.
BOO BOO BOO HISS HISS HISS (Uniondale style)
This better be the first question on the next AET broadcast or I will lose total faith in PJ fans. :!:
EDIT: Can it really be getting that much more expensive to produce vinyl? Is the the band just offering fans who really care about vinyl a tad more to offset the costs? Perhaps its not so evil. Hey you want vinyl, its gonna cost a bit more, and we will throw in a few extras. hmmmmm.............
It must have cost the 10c a fortune for this years fan club vinyl single...Oh wait...We never did get one this year..
I predict that Ten Club is going to lose a lot of members.
meh probably from people with mediocre fan club members. I can't imagine people with low fan club members (150xxx or lower?) giving them up very easily.
Me either. Most people are really only in it for the tickets anyway. My annual single sits unused. My Deep magazines are great, but once read, they gather dust.
Umm..please enlighten me? What exactly does the fan club "give us?" What is "all that I have gotten" for the $20 years so far? The fan club magazine and vinyl are cool but there hasn't been much else.
Here's what they did for me. Off the top of my head. In 1994 they sold me a pair of tickets to a show that sold out in about 8 minutes. In 1995 they sold me 7th row tickets for Milwaukee. In 1996 PJ played my hometown for the first time. Fan Club tickets were first row on the side.In 2000 they hooked me up with front row at the Palace in Auborn Hills(20,000+ capacity arena) Should I go on? Get in a car and drive to a show.I have never had regrtets after a PJ road trip.
I appreciate what the ten club does for the fans..But, maybe some of the 10c member fans will realize that 10c is a business...Not a fan club....They pretty much got us by balls with the whole ticket situation...
Here is the thing...We will never get the reason why they are doing the premium fan club membership...If soemone wants to ask Tim on the AET....They probably will just avoid the question...Just like all of the important questions that are asked on AET...They won't give us a true answer..
1) If you don't like it then too bad, but stop talking about how much you hate it. With every decision that the Ten Club makes there are going to be good and bad points. If you really love PJ then you are going to spend that extra money to get everything. If your not a huge fan they you are going to stick with the basic plan. Now I know that you can't get everything like before but that is just how it goes. IMO PJ is the best band ever and I think the extra 20 bucks is worth it, so I'm going to get the Analog plan.
2) Some people say that most people are just a member so they can get the good seats. I don't think this is true. I'm a member because I enjoy PJ, I would love to get good seats but most importantly, I love this community!!! Everybody here is so nice and caring, I am proud to be a member! I
3) It is almost the New Year, so I just want to wish every single person on here a happy new year! Don't let this ruin your day, look on the bright side and get on with your day!
Rico
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Tres Mts- 3/16/2011
Eddie Vedder- 7/16/11
Brad- 4/21/12 (RSD Performance), 4/27/12, 8/10/12
Flight To Mars- 5/23/12
RNDM- 11/27/12
PEARL JAM- 12/6/13 I have finally seen Pearl Jam live!
Seriously, though. It looks to me like costs have gone up and those choosing the upper class option will pay to have vinyl pressed and paper printed then delivered with a free t-shirt(!). I prefer they do this rather than raise the price for everyone.
I'm sticking with the lower class option. I can't be bothered to give a fuck about no longer receiving the holiday vinyl. I've never pulled one out of its packaging anyway. I definitely won't be spending extra money for a t-shirt. There are a few fans out there that make much better quality ones with way better designs.
The Deep Magazine - I'm glad I'll be getting a PDF copy instead of paper. I usually thumb through the paper ones then forget them. I think it would be cool if the 10C would also start keeping archived copies of these here on the website.
I'm already renewed through Jan 2012. I understand that I still get the hard copy vinyl and deep magazine, but am I counted as an Analog or Digital member when it comes to the T-shirt?
I don't mind paying an extra $20 for the t-shirt every year, but it doesn't really explain if I'd be getting it for this year or not. I wouldn't want to be "penalized" for having renewed early.
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I guess the 10C president is receiving a raise or bonus in the near future.....Or maybe even both..
Jeremy
my gosh, that seems to go against everything I thought the band stood for-which is every member gets equal treatment (except for seating in reserved venues of course).
perhaps this is a result of their new partnership with that marketing/royalty tracking company whose name I forget
I dont begrudge PJ for seeking more revenue, just raise the fee $10. I begrudge them for creating two classes of fan club members. What a terrible idea.
BOO BOO BOO HISS HISS HISS (Uniondale style)
This better be the first question on the next AET broadcast or I will lose total faith in PJ fans. :!:
EDIT: Can it really be getting that much more expensive to produce vinyl? Is the the band just offering fans who really care about vinyl a tad more to offset the costs? Perhaps its not so evil. Hey you want vinyl, its gonna cost a bit more, and we will throw in a few extras. hmmmmm.............
But I still dont like it.
I can see some fan club members not renewing their 10c membership..The fan club members that don't have a great fan club number..Which they can probably get better tickets off ebay or ticketmasterfor pj concerts..
meh probably from people with mediocre fan club members. I can't imagine people with low fan club members (150xxx or lower?) giving them up very easily.
i disagree with most of the bs i've read in this thread, but i do agree with the fact that 10c is a bit sensitive and takes criticism a bit too personally sometimes.
Umm..please enlighten me? What exactly does the fan club "give us?" What is "all that I have gotten" for the $20 years so far? The fan club magazine and vinyl are cool but there hasn't been much else.
Eddie Vedder- 7/16/11
Brad- 4/21/12 (RSD Performance), 4/27/12, 8/10/12
Flight To Mars- 5/23/12
RNDM- 11/27/12
PEARL JAM- 12/6/13 I have finally seen Pearl Jam live!
It's not "our" band... its Eddie's, Stone's, Mike's, Jeffs, and Matt's
Jeremy
We received the 09 single earlier this year so the 2010 single will come next year, the 2011 single will probably arrive in 2012 and so on...
Jeremy
It must have cost the 10c a fortune for this years fan club vinyl single...Oh wait...We never did get one this year..
Jeremy
Me either. Most people are really only in it for the tickets anyway. My annual single sits unused. My Deep magazines are great, but once read, they gather dust.
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MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Jeremy
True, that's the only reason many of us pay those 20$/year
...is it so wrong to think that love can keep us safe?
Indeed
Jeremy
Thanks 10c we love you
1) If you don't like it then too bad, but stop talking about how much you hate it. With every decision that the Ten Club makes there are going to be good and bad points. If you really love PJ then you are going to spend that extra money to get everything. If your not a huge fan they you are going to stick with the basic plan. Now I know that you can't get everything like before but that is just how it goes. IMO PJ is the best band ever and I think the extra 20 bucks is worth it, so I'm going to get the Analog plan.
2) Some people say that most people are just a member so they can get the good seats. I don't think this is true. I'm a member because I enjoy PJ, I would love to get good seats but most importantly, I love this community!!! Everybody here is so nice and caring, I am proud to be a member! I
3) It is almost the New Year, so I just want to wish every single person on here a happy new year! Don't let this ruin your day, look on the bright side and get on with your day!
Rico
Eddie Vedder- 7/16/11
Brad- 4/21/12 (RSD Performance), 4/27/12, 8/10/12
Flight To Mars- 5/23/12
RNDM- 11/27/12
PEARL JAM- 12/6/13 I have finally seen Pearl Jam live!
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Seriously, though. It looks to me like costs have gone up and those choosing the upper class option will pay to have vinyl pressed and paper printed then delivered with a free t-shirt(!). I prefer they do this rather than raise the price for everyone.
I'm sticking with the lower class option. I can't be bothered to give a fuck about no longer receiving the holiday vinyl. I've never pulled one out of its packaging anyway. I definitely won't be spending extra money for a t-shirt. There are a few fans out there that make much better quality ones with way better designs.
The Deep Magazine - I'm glad I'll be getting a PDF copy instead of paper. I usually thumb through the paper ones then forget them. I think it would be cool if the 10C would also start keeping archived copies of these here on the website.
I don't mind paying an extra $20 for the t-shirt every year, but it doesn't really explain if I'd be getting it for this year or not. I wouldn't want to be "penalized" for having renewed early.