I have watched a few F-1 races this year and a little bit of the world cup. To say the US is the only country that goes overboard with their flags is like the pot calling the kettle black
Those are national sporting events. If you go to most of these countries you'll be hard pressed to find a flag anywhere. Even here in China - which is another country that likes to promote nationalism, you only see the odd flag flying. I don't know of any other country in the world apart from the U.S where people fly flags from their houses - apart from during the World Cup.
We here in Canada fly flag from our house's, maybe not quite as many as America, but we do.
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I have watched a few F-1 races this year and a little bit of the world cup. To say the US is the only country that goes overboard with their flags is like the pot calling the kettle black
Those are national sporting events. If you go to most of these countries you'll be hard pressed to find a flag anywhere. Even here in China - which is another country that likes to promote nationalism, you only see the odd flag flying. I don't know of any other country in the world apart from the U.S where people fly flags from their houses - apart from during the World Cup.
Well, the U.S. has a much better looking flag then China. Plus, the bunting is actually a pretty classy look.
It is ironic that most the US flags were probably made in China. :shh:
I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.
I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.
this is silly...you're just making things up and you know it...
I think you know the otherwise to be true. The news reports are already coming in as they do annually about "Christmas" being censored because one person in town is "offended."
To deny this happens is foolish.
if you're talking about "Christmas" stuff being on PUBLIC property, than yes, that's legally challengeable practice...
however you said You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU....that, my friend is bullshit and you know it...
It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.
Ahhh, c'mon, I've disagreed with folks around here before and never felt as if I was being torn to pieces. Well, except that gimmesometruth guy, but he's a total karate bully.
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It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.
Ahhh, c'mon, I've disagreed with folks around here before and never felt as if I was being torn to pieces. Well, except that gimmesometruth guy, but he's a total karate bully.
actually i am an MMA enthusiast and have had fights before, but i am no bully...lol...come on eyed...i'm not that bad. i just have a good bullshit detector and if people post a bunch of bullshit that i KNOW to be false i am going to correct people over it. bullshit muddies the debate and does nothing but confuse people and divert from the real topic at hand. it is the bullshit that makes most of us and most of our politicians disagree on every little thing.
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It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.
Ahhh, c'mon, I've disagreed with folks around here before and never felt as if I was being torn to pieces. Well, except that gimmesometruth guy, but he's a total karate bully.
actually i am an MMA enthusiast and have had fights before, but i am no bully...lol...come on eyed...i'm not that bad. i just have a good bullshit detector and if people post a bunch of bullshit that i KNOW to be false i am going to correct people over it. bullshit muddies the debate and does nothing but confuse people and divert from the real topic at hand. it is the bullshit that makes most of us and most of our politicians disagree on every little thing.
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Yeah, I was just playin'. However, because of your MMA training, if we ever do have to fight, I'm just gonna shoot you. Hope you're ok with that...
it's cool man. i won't fight outside of a ring or cage. there is no money in it....j/k..seriously though, there is nothing good that ever comes out of a streetfight. nothing. good. ever.
and lol that is not the first time i have been told i am going to get shot in the last 2 weeks lol...
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why do people get uneasy about americans displaying american flags? i'm talking actual flags, here. not shirts, vests, bandannas, pants, and all that other horseshit.
hey, at least we're not holding a parade every year and pulling our missles down the street, with our army goose-stepping in front of it.
I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.
It's not an example, it's b&*%^shit.
Aren't you in China? How would you know anyway?
Because anyone who lives in China can't possibly know anything, right?
why do people get uneasy about americans displaying american flags? i'm talking actual flags, here. not shirts, vests, bandannas, pants, and all that other horseshit.
hey, at least we're not holding a parade every year and pulling our missles down the street, with our army goose-stepping in front of it.
I wouldn't say anyone's uneasy about it. It just seems a bit weird. And the military goose-stepping stuff is put on by politicians, not the citizens.
The whole flag waving thing from houses and front lawns is a typically American thing. Not sure why that is.
Not to mention the plege of allegiance at schools in America. What the fuck is that all about?
no why wasn't this meantioned by the OP, do you think? as gimme's sig says "patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels". I agree 100%. I've never understood the whole "let's worship these imaginary lines" idea anyway. I think we need an Earth flag. And EVERYONE could fly that.
The rest of the story said the school officials set up the rule because of the number of Mexican Flags that kids brought to school on Cinco de Mayo. The ban went into affect to get rid of that problem and it included the American flag.
Now.... if you allow the American flag... you have to allow all the other flags... Mexico, Italy, Ireland, India, Pakistan, VietNam, etc...
It had nothing to do with patriotism or free speech... everything to do with kids not being able to run around the schoolyard with 3 foot long sticks.
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Because anyone who lives in China can't possibly know anything, right?
I've been all over America. I've been there 5 times.
I've also been coast to coast by bus 3 times.
Though I don't think that was his point, as I've heard it stated on the M.T before that living in China automatically makes you completely unqualified to know anything, and to voice an opinion.
as I've heard stated said on the M.T before that living in China automatically makes you completely unqualified to know anything, and to voice an opinion.
come on, really? :shock:
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as I've heard stated said on the M.T before that living in China automatically makes you completely unqualified to know anything, and to voice an opinion.
I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.
this is silly...you're just making things up and you know it...
I think you know the otherwise to be true. The news reports are already coming in as they do annually about "Christmas" being censored because one person in town is "offended."
To deny this happens is foolish.
Please, please, please find me an example of the ACLU suing someone for putting a "Merry Christmas" sign in their yard.
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why do people get uneasy about americans displaying american flags? i'm talking actual flags, here. not shirts, vests, bandannas, pants, and all that other horseshit.
hey, at least we're not holding a parade every year and pulling our missles down the street, with our army goose-stepping in front of it.
Who is uneasy about that? Specific example, please.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
For me I reckon bynzies got a better perspective as he has traveled broadly. someone who has traveled only a little or not at all have only their own limited experience.
Flag waving is Quite rife here in OZ
I dont mind people flying a flag from their homes etc but those who run around with Tatts or boxers flags as capes etc are showing direspect to thier national identity.
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I've been all over America. I've been there 5 times.
I've also been coast to coast by bus 3 times.
Though I don't think that was his point, as I've heard it stated on the M.T before that living in China automatically makes you completely unqualified to know anything, and to voice an opinion.[/quote]
I think you know the otherwise to be true. The news reports are already coming in as they do annually about "Christmas" being censored because one person in town is "offended."
To deny this happens is foolish.
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Place a sign in your front yard that says, "Merry Christmas" and see how many lawsuits are draw against you. I am going with zero to none.
The whole Happy Holidays came about because of the good old fashioned tradition of Capitalism. Retailers want Christians dollars... and Jewish dollars and Muslim dolllars and Hindu dollars between Thanksgiving and New Years. There is not law saying you HAVE to say 'Happy Holidays'. Retailers took up that tradition to... guess what? Make money by selling to Jews and Muslims and Hindus.
...
Now, publicly funded institutions went away from 'Silent Night' and opted for 'Jingle Bells' instead because of whay? Because they didn't want to add, 'Dradel, dradel, dradel' to their Christmas shows. You cannot endorse one religion over another in America because of that pesky Bill of Rights. Your Churches and homes can have a Christmas show with 'Silent Night'... your church and home can display a Nativity Scene... your church and home can post 'Merry Christmas' on the marquee.... but, our court houses cannot because court houses are public buildings, churches and private homes are not.
Retailers such as Target and Wal-Mart CHOOSE to put 'Happy Holidays' in their ads for one reason... good ol' capitalism. it's not about Allah... it's all about Dollah.
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I think you know the otherwise to be true. The news reports are already coming in as they do annually about "Christmas" being censored because one person in town is "offended."
To deny this happens is foolish.
...
Place a sign in your front yard that says, "Merry Christmas" and see how many lawsuits are draw against you. I am going with zero to none.
The whole Happy Holidays came about because of the good old fashioned tradition of Capitalism. Retailers want Christians dollars... and Jewish dollars and Muslim dolllars and Hindu dollars between Thanksgiving and New Years. There is not law saying you HAVE to say 'Happy Holidays'. Retailers took up that tradition to... guess what? Make money by selling to Jews and Muslims and Hindus.
...
Now, publicly funded institutions went away from 'Silent Night' and opted for 'Jingle Bells' instead because of whay? Because they didn't want to add, 'Dradel, dradel, dradel' to their Christmas shows. You cannot endorse one religion over another in America because of that pesky Bill of Rights. Your Churches and homes can have a Christmas show with 'Silent Night'... your church and home can display a Nativity Scene... your church and home can post 'Merry Christmas' on the marquee.... but, our court houses cannot because court houses are public buildings, churches and private homes are not.
Retailers such as Target and Wal-Mart CHOOSE to put 'Happy Holidays' in their ads for one reason... good ol' capitalism. it's not about Allah... it's all about Dollah.
For me I reckon bynzies got a better perspective as he has traveled broadly. someone who has traveled only a little or not at all have only their own limited experience. Flag waving is Quite rife here in OZI dont mind people flying a flag from their homes etc but those who run around with Tatts or boxers flags as capes etc are showing direspect to thier national identity.
Me Im proud of my country, my flag and anthem. It identifies us as Aussies.
but you wont see a southern cross tatt on my back. Its farkin stamped into my heart already
im going to have to disagree with you here. i dont see a high level of flag waving here in oz outside of sporting events, australia day, the occasional riot in the shire or the BDO when it happens to fall on australia day.
do you also consider australian flag bikinis disrespectful?
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For me I reckon bynzies got a better perspective as he has traveled broadly. someone who has traveled only a little or not at all have only their own limited experience. Flag waving is Quite rife here in OZI dont mind people flying a flag from their homes etc but those who run around with Tatts or boxers flags as capes etc are showing direspect to thier national identity.
Me Im proud of my country, my flag and anthem. It identifies us as Aussies.
but you wont see a southern cross tatt on my back. Its farkin stamped into my heart already
im going to have to disagree with you here. i dont see a high level of flag waving here in oz outside of sporting events, australia day, the occasional riot in the shire or the BDO when it happens to fall on australia day.
do you also consider australian flag bikinis disrespectful?
yeah I do find it disrespectful.
Im a little old school on this
I was trained to properly hold the flag, fold etc on parade in The army. To show it respect.
your not allowed to let it touch the ground etc . heaps of rules.
a lot of people around my area disrespect the flag in the ways I mentioned . maybe not yours
For me I reckon bynzies got a better perspective as he has traveled broadly. someone who has traveled only a little or not at all have only their own limited experience. Flag waving is Quite rife here in OZI dont mind people flying a flag from their homes etc but those who run around with Tatts or boxers flags as capes etc are showing direspect to thier national identity.
Me Im proud of my country, my flag and anthem. It identifies us as Aussies.
but you wont see a southern cross tatt on my back. Its farkin stamped into my heart already
im going to have to disagree with you here. i dont see a high level of flag waving here in oz outside of sporting events, australia day, the occasional riot in the shire or the BDO when it happens to fall on australia day.
do you also consider australian flag bikinis disrespectful?
yeah I do find it disrespectful.
Im a little old school on this
I was trained to properly hold the flag, fold etc on parade in The army. To show it respect.
your not allowed to let it touch the ground etc . heaps of rules.
a lot of people around my area disrespect the flag in the ways I mentioned . maybe not yours
i live in sydney. i just dont see any of what you mentioned as being disrespectful. but then again i find it very difficult to be respectful of my nations flag when it has the flag of another country so prominent within it.
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We here in Canada fly flag from our house's, maybe not quite as many as America, but we do.
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It is ironic that most the US flags were probably made in China. :shh:
Aren't you in China? How would you know anyway?
if you're talking about "Christmas" stuff being on PUBLIC property, than yes, that's legally challengeable practice...
however you said You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU....that, my friend is bullshit and you know it...
Ahhh, c'mon, I've disagreed with folks around here before and never felt as if I was being torn to pieces. Well, except that gimmesometruth guy, but he's a total karate bully.
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and lol that is not the first time i have been told i am going to get shot in the last 2 weeks lol...
i took a self defense class one time at my old fighting gym that showed us how to take a gun away taught by a swat team member. someone asked "how do you take a knife away?" and he replied "you don't. if someone has a knife you run like hell..."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
hey, at least we're not holding a parade every year and pulling our missles down the street, with our army goose-stepping in front of it.
Because anyone who lives in China can't possibly know anything, right?
I wouldn't say anyone's uneasy about it. It just seems a bit weird. And the military goose-stepping stuff is put on by politicians, not the citizens.
The whole flag waving thing from houses and front lawns is a typically American thing. Not sure why that is.
Not to mention the plege of allegiance at schools in America. What the fuck is that all about?
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I've been all over America. I've been there 5 times.
I've also been coast to coast by bus 3 times.
Though I don't think that was his point, as I've heard it stated on the M.T before that living in China automatically makes you completely unqualified to know anything, and to voice an opinion.
come on, really? :shock:
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Yes, really.
Please, please, please find me an example of the ACLU suing someone for putting a "Merry Christmas" sign in their yard.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
Who is uneasy about that? Specific example, please.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
right, instead of parading our military we are out using it.
so much better :roll:
Flag waving is Quite rife here in OZ
I dont mind people flying a flag from their homes etc but those who run around with Tatts or boxers flags as capes etc are showing direspect to thier national identity.
Me Im proud of my country, my flag and anthem. It identifies us as Aussies.
but you wont see a southern cross tatt on my back. Its farkin stamped into my heart already
quote]
I've been all over America. I've been there 5 times.
I've also been coast to coast by bus 3 times.
Though I don't think that was his point, as I've heard it stated on the M.T before that living in China automatically makes you completely unqualified to know anything, and to voice an opinion.[/quote]
Place a sign in your front yard that says, "Merry Christmas" and see how many lawsuits are draw against you. I am going with zero to none.
The whole Happy Holidays came about because of the good old fashioned tradition of Capitalism. Retailers want Christians dollars... and Jewish dollars and Muslim dolllars and Hindu dollars between Thanksgiving and New Years. There is not law saying you HAVE to say 'Happy Holidays'. Retailers took up that tradition to... guess what? Make money by selling to Jews and Muslims and Hindus.
...
Now, publicly funded institutions went away from 'Silent Night' and opted for 'Jingle Bells' instead because of whay? Because they didn't want to add, 'Dradel, dradel, dradel' to their Christmas shows. You cannot endorse one religion over another in America because of that pesky Bill of Rights. Your Churches and homes can have a Christmas show with 'Silent Night'... your church and home can display a Nativity Scene... your church and home can post 'Merry Christmas' on the marquee.... but, our court houses cannot because court houses are public buildings, churches and private homes are not.
Retailers such as Target and Wal-Mart CHOOSE to put 'Happy Holidays' in their ads for one reason... good ol' capitalism. it's not about Allah... it's all about Dollah.
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im going to have to disagree with you here. i dont see a high level of flag waving here in oz outside of sporting events, australia day, the occasional riot in the shire or the BDO when it happens to fall on australia day.
do you also consider australian flag bikinis disrespectful?
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Im a little old school on this
I was trained to properly hold the flag, fold etc on parade in The army. To show it respect.
your not allowed to let it touch the ground etc . heaps of rules.
a lot of people around my area disrespect the flag in the ways I mentioned . maybe not yours
i live in sydney. i just dont see any of what you mentioned as being disrespectful. but then again i find it very difficult to be respectful of my nations flag when it has the flag of another country so prominent within it.
take a good look
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