Proud to be an American!

gimmesometruth27

david cross hits it out of the park here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXjLI9yxQvo

g under p

Smellyman wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Why are Americans so obsessed with all things military and the waving of flags?

Do you have a problem with your self-esteem?

Living overseas this is the one of the things that is embarrassing to me(along with Bush, Palin, Beck, Hannity...).

I just had this conversation with somebody, why does the US glorify the military? glorify war? I am all for honoring, but the US has this, the military is great and will kick ass metality which bothers me. (America fuck yeah)

I think it is engrained in the culture. We are dirlled, almost like religion, that America is THE greatest country on earth, what a tremendous honor it is to be born here, the military is fighting for our freedoms and without them we'd be speaking German or Russian blah blah blah.

I don't know....I watched Iron Man 2 with a muslim friend, and yes it is a Hollywood movie, but the over the top military theme, buying weapons and flag waving made me uncomfortable at times.

Agreed and don't forget the greatest health care system.

Peace

Hugh Freaking Dillon

"flags! hooray!"

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

david cross hits it out of the park here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXjLI9yxQvo

catefrances

g under p wrote:

haffajappa wrote:

yeah, i couldn't watch the video... but that's pretty riddankulous. good for the kid!
but if it is true, that that is the back story... that they banned all flags in general (which is pretttty stupid!) then they SHOULD ban all flags. Not just Mexican flags. That kid should have rounded up everyone, get everyone to bring their culture's flag!



WTF is it with Americans and their flags anyways? :roll:

Don't you remember the craziness after 9/11 with flags. If you didn't have one waving or on your car it was thought of as UnAmerican back then. Nice to see the bikers coming to the rescue and easing any tensions.

Peace

yeah for the bikers!!!

the preponderance of american flags was something i noticed whilst in NYC a couple of years back. theyre even on the carriages of the trains. that one threw me. tis not like people are unaware the trains are in america. i remember back in september 2001 one of our newspapers printed an american flag and urged us all to tape it up somewhere to show solidarity. i have a problem with my own national flag so chances of me flying another nations flag is practically nil. anyhoo...

i tend to only see australian flags flying off flagpoles or draped around the necks of yobbos like superhero capes. oh and at the cricket when im bored enough to watch it.

Electric_Delta

I'm sure it won't matter soon enough. At the rate all of our traditions are being stolen from us, against our will, displaying the flag will be totally illegal in no time.

Byrnzie

Electric_Delta wrote:

I'm sure it won't matter soon enough. At the rate all of our traditions are being stolen from us, against our will, displaying the flag will be totally illegal in no time.

And just what traditions are being stolen from you?

Edit: And are they traditions worth keeping?

know1

I generally like America a whole lot, but I don't suffer from the blind, nationalistic pride that many people do. I like to see the world as a whole and not make distinctions between people "from here" and people from other places.

In fact, if I see a better opportunity for me in another country, I would leave and call myself a citizen of that nation.

gimmesometruth27

Byrnzie wrote:

Electric_Delta wrote:

I'm sure it won't matter soon enough. At the rate all of our traditions are being stolen from us, against our will, displaying the flag will be totally illegal in no time.

And just what traditions are being stolen from you?

Edit: And are they traditions worth keeping?

yes, what traditions are being stolen from us?

and are you really serious when you said displaying a flag will be illegal? that is such an emotional, reactionary statement. i am thinking you were being fascecious or sarcastic. i guess then we won't need them on our government buildings and on the coffins at soldier's funerals then. and we would have to take them off of our military uniforms.

mickeyrat

TriumphantAngel wrote:

until working in the U.S. the only other Country i had ever seen with their flag plastered everywhere was Nazi Germany,

this would make you how old exactly?

Electric_Delta

Byrnzie wrote:

Electric_Delta wrote:

I'm sure it won't matter soon enough. At the rate all of our traditions are being stolen from us, against our will, displaying the flag will be totally illegal in no time.

And just what traditions are being stolen from you?

Edit: And are they traditions worth keeping?

I won't even begin to debate this with you.

Not today, not ever.

blackredyellow

Electric_Delta wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Electric_Delta wrote:

I'm sure it won't matter soon enough. At the rate all of our traditions are being stolen from us, against our will, displaying the flag will be totally illegal in no time.

And just what traditions are being stolen from you?

Edit: And are they traditions worth keeping?

I won't even begin to debate this with you.

Not today, not ever.

well, that's convenient... make overly dramatic claims, and then don't give specifics when asked to clarify them.

Electric_Delta

Edit: And are they traditions worth keeping?[/quote]

I won't even begin to debate this with you.

Not today, not ever.[/quote]

well, that's convenient... make overly dramatic claims, and then don't give specifics when asked to clarify them.[/quote]


It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.

I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.

Jason P

I have watched a few F-1 races this year and a little bit of the world cup. To say the US is the only country that goes overboard with their flags is like the pot calling the kettle black

unsung

Despite the many flaws of the USA, it is still the country most flock to when they wish for their dreams to come true.

blackredyellow

Electric_Delta wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

well, that's convenient... make overly dramatic claims, and then don't give specifics when asked to clarify them.

It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.

I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.

Well, I've never been sued for that, nor have any of my neighbors, so the example is once again overly dramatic...

JonnyPistachio

Byrnzie wrote:

Why are Americans so obsessed with all things military and the waving of flags?

Do you have a problem with your self-esteem?

I would say that a lot of people who fly their American flags have that "america is the greatest superpower" mentality, but not all.

I used to have a small American flag (like 4x6) that was on my front door of my old shithole apartment. I liked it because it reminded me of my grandfather, thats all. He was one of those people who fought in WW2 and yelled at me for buying a subaru because it was japanese. He had that old mentality that his wife should wait on him hand and foot. And he was a bit racist. A sonofabitch from the outside. But he was a product of his times. I really respect the person he was on the inside, or could've been had he not grown up in New Jersey in 1920.

However, he had a great memory and liking of American history. He could recite every single president in order (and thier VP!). He was always yelling at the tv when politicians were on -- I never knew why though. Also, he always had me help him put up the flag on his house on flag day and other days like memorial day. And I also remember when he died that the Navy officer handed my grandmother the flag that was on his coffin. I just saw it as a sign of belonging and respect.

I see people wear jerseys of their favorite NFL and NBA teams, fraternities, Bob Ross, star wars...etc, ect.. I always saw it as just what they likie to identify with, and maybe to a fuller extent, what they belong to.

I still have that little American flag, although now its in a NY yankees pint glass on a shelf. But it has nothing to do with self esteem. It just remindes me of things. I love living where I do and i feel patriotic sometimes, so i'd understand if people put them on their houses sometimes. What i really dont get though is the big old oversized trucks you see with the flags on the side, in the back window and all over the bumpers. That I cant tell you about.

Electric_Delta

blackredyellow wrote:

Electric_Delta wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

well, that's convenient... make overly dramatic claims, and then don't give specifics when asked to clarify them.

It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.

I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.

Well, I've never been sued for that, nor have any of my neighbors, so the example is once again overly dramatic...

So, because you've never experienced it personally it doesn't happen?

JonnyPistachio

Electric_Delta wrote:

Edit: And are they traditions worth keeping?

I won't even begin to debate this with you.

Not today, not ever.[/quote]

well, that's convenient... make overly dramatic claims, and then don't give specifics when asked to clarify them.[/quote]


It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.

I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.[/quote]

Is it safe to say you are talking about the pledge of allegiance and the motto 'in god we trust' that is on our currency?

TriumphantAngel

mickeyrat wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

until working in the U.S. the only other Country i had ever seen with their flag plastered everywhere was Nazi Germany,

this would make you how old exactly?

not as old as some of the red, white and blue underwear that some people have wedged up their ass around here.

apparently it makes them grumpy.

BrinkofForever

Only if your yard is a government building, like a city hall.

Electric_Delta wrote:

Edit: And are they traditions worth keeping?

I won't even begin to debate this with you.

Not today, not ever.[/quote]

well, that's convenient... make overly dramatic claims, and then don't give specifics when asked to clarify them.[/quote]


It has nothing to do with drama. It has everything to do with being torn to pieces like a seal in a shark frenzy on this board.

I refuse to be drawn into the debate as a whole, however, I will say this much: You can't put a "Merry Christmas" sign in your yard without getting sued by the worms in the ACLU. There's your example.[/quote]