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  • eyedclaar
    eyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    polaris_x wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    Just saying that there are multiple factors that are involved and to say that it is caused by us is premature. I'm not ruling it out but I do have lots of questions.

    again - everything you've brought up has been addressed ... it's only premature if you are determined to not believe in the science ... it's there for you to read up on ...

    All I know is that when the oceans rise and the imminent Rocky Mountain human migration begins to occur, I am going to be in the woods hunting and eating all the immigrant crackers who spent a lifetime denying environmental problems.
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    edited October 2010
    So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

    If your keeping score at home

    http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/
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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    eyedclaar wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    Just saying that there are multiple factors that are involved and to say that it is caused by us is premature. I'm not ruling it out but I do have lots of questions.

    again - everything you've brought up has been addressed ... it's only premature if you are determined to not believe in the science ... it's there for you to read up on ...

    All I know is that when the oceans rise and the imminent Rocky Mountain human migration begins to occur, I am going to be in the woods hunting and eating all the immigrant crackers who spent a lifetime denying environmental problems.

    I am not denying it. Of course we have an effect on the earth but to say that we are melting polar caps might be a little much.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    shadowcast wrote:
    So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

    it's an irrelevant matter ... the fundamentals of global warming have nothing to do with el nino or the like ... will it have an effect on weather - absolutely!! ... but, it by no means bears any influence in the cause of global warming ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    shadowcast wrote:
    I am not denying it. Of course we have an effect on the earth but to say that we are melting polar caps might be a little much.

    uhhh ... if that isn't a denial - what is?
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    polaris_x wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    I am not denying it. Of course we have an effect on the earth but to say that we are melting polar caps might be a little much.

    uhhh ... if that isn't a denial - what is?

    Is it (sarcasam)? If you would have read what I said I said effect on the earth, not on warming the earth.
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    polaris_x wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

    it's an irrelevant matter ... the fundamentals of global warming have nothing to do with el nino or the like ... will it have an effect on weather - absolutely!! ... but, it by no means bears any influence in the cause of global warming ...

    So you are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO have no effect? If you say yes than you are truly one sided as most scientists say they do not know.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    shadowcast wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    shadowcast wrote:
    So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

    it's an irrelevant matter ... the fundamentals of global warming have nothing to do with el nino or the like ... will it have an effect on weather - absolutely!! ... but, it by no means bears any influence in the cause of global warming ...

    So you are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO have no effect? If you say yes than you are truly one sided as most scientists say they do not know.

    dude ... i just wrote right above that is has an effect on weather ... i wrote the word "absolutely" ... the question most scientists have with it is the cause ...

    but AGAIN - it is irrelevant as it pertains to the science behind GLOBAL WARMING ... i find it interesting that you refer to scientists in your assertation but ignore the thousands who have proclaimed that global warming is happening and the primary cause is human-induced ...

    seriously, i will keep flogging this dead horse ... but educate yourself on the science and then at least make an argument against it ... all you are doing here is pointing out what can cause variability in the climate models but it by no means casts a doubt or shadow (sorry had to do it) on global warming ...
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,809
    The weather is perfect here today...has been perfect for days!!!!

    Keep doing what your doing mankind!!!!
    hippiemom = goodness

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