Global Warming not looking good

polaris_x

eyedclaar wrote:

catefrances wrote:

both canada and the US are in excess of 9 million square kilometres in area. germany is just under 349 000sq kms. , so this doesnt surprise me.

The chart is measuring each person, not each country though. Size doesn't matter - for once.

yes ... it's a per capita figure ...

eyedclaar

polaris_x wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

catefrances wrote:

both canada and the US are in excess of 9 million square kilometres in area. germany is just under 349 000sq kms. , so this doesnt surprise me.

The chart is measuring each person, not each country though. Size doesn't matter - for once.

yes ... it's a per capita figure ...

Woo-hoo! My country is totally kickin' ass!

catefrances

polaris_x wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

catefrances wrote:

both canada and the US are in excess of 9 million square kilometres in area. germany is just under 349 000sq kms. , so this doesnt surprise me.

The chart is measuring each person, not each country though. Size doesn't matter - for once.

yes ... it's a per capita figure ...

yep i understand that. i just want to know what contributes to per capita statistics such as these.

polaris_x

catefrances wrote:

yep i understand that. i just want to know what contributes to per capita statistics such as these.

i would assume they take the consumption for the entire country and divide it by the population or they survey a statistically significant sample size and average it out ...

eyedclaar

catefrances wrote:

yep i understand that. i just want to know what contributes to per capita statistics such as these.

All of our heaters, air conditioners, automobiles, lawnmowers, my weekly tanning visits, etc.
























Alright, I don't really have weekly tanning visits.

catefrances

eyedclaar wrote:

catefrances wrote:

yep i understand that. i just want to know what contributes to per capita statistics such as these.

All of our heaters, air conditioners, automobiles, lawnmowers, my weekly tanning visits, etc.
Alright, I don't really have weekly tanning visits.

well see heres the thing... my household has no heaters, no aircon, 1 car per 6 people and none of us visits the tanning salon. so someone out there is punching above their weight on behalf of my household. i suspect its industry.

shadowcast

I'm just saying:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

polaris_x

shadowcast wrote:

I'm just saying:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

uhhh ... so, centuries of climate data is not sufficient but 3 years is enough to debunk all the leading scientists!? ...

i will also add that joanna haigh, the lead author on this solar research, is also a member of the IPCC who believes that climate change is indeed man-made ... she only addresses the modeling aspect ... similar, this could actually prove the impact of greenhouse gases is FAR greater than initially thought ...

the debate is over ...

shadowcast

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast wrote:

I'm just saying:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

uhhh ... so, centuries of climate data is not sufficient but 3 years is enough to debunk all the leading scientists!? ...

i will also add that joanna haigh, the lead author on this solar research, is also a member of the IPCC who believes that climate change is indeed man-made ... she only addresses the modeling aspect ... similar, this could actually prove the impact of greenhouse gases is FAR greater than initially thought ...

the debate is over ...

Just saying that there are multiple factors that are involved and to say that it is caused by us is premature. I'm not ruling it out but I do have lots of questions.

polaris_x

shadowcast wrote:

Just saying that there are multiple factors that are involved and to say that it is caused by us is premature. I'm not ruling it out but I do have lots of questions.

again - everything you've brought up has been addressed ... it's only premature if you are determined to not believe in the science ... it's there for you to read up on ...

eyedclaar

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast wrote:

Just saying that there are multiple factors that are involved and to say that it is caused by us is premature. I'm not ruling it out but I do have lots of questions.

again - everything you've brought up has been addressed ... it's only premature if you are determined to not believe in the science ... it's there for you to read up on ...

All I know is that when the oceans rise and the imminent Rocky Mountain human migration begins to occur, I am going to be in the woods hunting and eating all the immigrant crackers who spent a lifetime denying environmental problems.

shadowcast

So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

If your keeping score at home

http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/

shadowcast

eyedclaar wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast wrote:

Just saying that there are multiple factors that are involved and to say that it is caused by us is premature. I'm not ruling it out but I do have lots of questions.

again - everything you've brought up has been addressed ... it's only premature if you are determined to not believe in the science ... it's there for you to read up on ...

All I know is that when the oceans rise and the imminent Rocky Mountain human migration begins to occur, I am going to be in the woods hunting and eating all the immigrant crackers who spent a lifetime denying environmental problems.

I am not denying it. Of course we have an effect on the earth but to say that we are melting polar caps might be a little much.

polaris_x

shadowcast wrote:

So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

it's an irrelevant matter ... the fundamentals of global warming have nothing to do with el nino or the like ... will it have an effect on weather - absolutely!! ... but, it by no means bears any influence in the cause of global warming ...

polaris_x

shadowcast wrote:

I am not denying it. Of course we have an effect on the earth but to say that we are melting polar caps might be a little much.

uhhh ... if that isn't a denial - what is?

shadowcast

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast wrote:

I am not denying it. Of course we have an effect on the earth but to say that we are melting polar caps might be a little much.

uhhh ... if that isn't a denial - what is?

Is it (sarcasam)? If you would have read what I said I said effect on the earth, not on warming the earth.

shadowcast

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast wrote:

So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

it's an irrelevant matter ... the fundamentals of global warming have nothing to do with el nino or the like ... will it have an effect on weather - absolutely!! ... but, it by no means bears any influence in the cause of global warming ...

So you are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO have no effect? If you say yes than you are truly one sided as most scientists say they do not know.

polaris_x

shadowcast wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

shadowcast wrote:

So address this. You are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO pattern is not truly regime-like? With a switching phase from cool to warm then warm to cool?

it's an irrelevant matter ... the fundamentals of global warming have nothing to do with el nino or the like ... will it have an effect on weather - absolutely!! ... but, it by no means bears any influence in the cause of global warming ...

So you are 100% sure that PDO-ENSO have no effect? If you say yes than you are truly one sided as most scientists say they do not know.

dude ... i just wrote right above that is has an effect on weather ... i wrote the word "absolutely" ... the question most scientists have with it is the cause ...

but AGAIN - it is irrelevant as it pertains to the science behind GLOBAL WARMING ... i find it interesting that you refer to scientists in your assertation but ignore the thousands who have proclaimed that global warming is happening and the primary cause is human-induced ...

seriously, i will keep flogging this dead horse ... but educate yourself on the science and then at least make an argument against it ... all you are doing here is pointing out what can cause variability in the climate models but it by no means casts a doubt or shadow (sorry had to do it) on global warming ...

cincybearcat

The weather is perfect here today...has been perfect for days!!!!

Keep doing what your doing mankind!!!!