Although I agree with a lot of what you said, the celebrities still promote him as a happy-go-lucky kid who likes the "goth" culture. He really was not so happy-go-lucky in real life. He was pretty scary, actually. That's all I'm saying. It has absolutely no bearing on convicting him, however.
Although I agree with a lot of what you said, the celebrities still promote him as a happy-go-lucky kid who likes the "goth" culture. He really was not so happy-go-lucky in real life. He was pretty scary, actually. That's all I'm saying. It has absolutely no bearing on convicting him, however.
I haven't gotten the impression that people are saying he was happy-go-lucky - only that they are saying he's innocent.
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coachchris
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 749
Lostdogsinthegarden wrote:
'The only argument I'm trying to make is that he was a good suspect. That is all. He showed signs of conduct disorder as a child, and by definition, antisocial personality disorder once he reached the age of 18. Antisocial personality disorder is a far cry from someone wearing black and listening to metallica. A new trial needs to be done, however. And he should be freed.'
I didn't respond to anyone in particular, but if you ask, I recognised some of my peers in Damian, and remembered when we acted out at our age, pretended to be cool, did some stupid things, and got accused of worse things. We grew up in Pleasantville and none of us were abused as far as I know. I don't know anything about disorder names, but how is someone antisocial if he has friends, girlfriend, and won't stop yapping to everybody? Seems social to me.
One can name disorders, but I can read for myself, and all I see is kid trying to look scary and not scared.
I think he was wrongfully convicted, but what I think doesn't matter really, what matters is, if there is no proof of guilt, he shouldn't be on the death row.
He can be super social and still have anti-social personality disorder. From emedicine:
Antisocial personality disorder: Individuals with antisocial personality disorder display a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others and the rules of society. Onset must occur by age 15 years and includes the following features:
* Repeated violations of the law- check.
* Pervasive lying and deception- check.
* Physical aggressiveness- check.
* Reckless disregard for safety of self or others- check.
* Consistent irresponsibility in work and family environments- check.
* Lack of remorse- check.
He has also killed animals in the most brutal fashion, which is also a sign of a poor prognosis.
The boys were drained of blood. He likes to drink blood. Although that doesn't mean anything, I say lets throw him on the suspect list. Simple.
I've cut myself and sucked on the blood am I part of an occult?
Do you have a link that proves he killed animals?
The boys were "drained" of blood?
WHERE are you getting your information from?
I’m sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth I’ve had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of hope Money for dope Money for rope No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dickyIs gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap Money for dope Money for rope I’m sick to death of seeing things From tight-lipped, condescending, mama’s little chauvinists All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth now I’ve had enough of watching scenes Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap It’s money for dope Money for rope Ah, I’m sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now I’ve had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth
Adolescence in essence is all about trust.
Leaving is for the answering machine.
Someone has posted this elsewhere on the board, but just as an FYI to those of you discussing the matter here, The Arkansas Supreme Court will live-stream the oral argument for Damien Echols' appeal on their website:
Lostdogsinthegarden wrote:
'The only argument I'm trying to make is that he was a good suspect. That is all. He showed signs of conduct disorder as a child, and by definition, antisocial personality disorder once he reached the age of 18. Antisocial personality disorder is a far cry from someone wearing black and listening to metallica. A new trial needs to be done, however. And he should be freed.'
I didn't respond to anyone in particular, but if you ask, I recognised some of my peers in Damian, and remembered when we acted out at our age, pretended to be cool, did some stupid things, and got accused of worse things. We grew up in Pleasantville and none of us were abused as far as I know. I don't know anything about disorder names, but how is someone antisocial if he has friends, girlfriend, and won't stop yapping to everybody? Seems social to me.
One can name disorders, but I can read for myself, and all I see is kid trying to look scary and not scared.
I think he was wrongfully convicted, but what I think doesn't matter really, what matters is, if there is no proof of guilt, he shouldn't be on the death row.
He can be super social and still have anti-social personality disorder. From emedicine:
Antisocial personality disorder: Individuals with antisocial personality disorder display a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others and the rules of society. Onset must occur by age 15 years and includes the following features:
* Repeated violations of the law- check.
* Pervasive lying and deception- check.
* Physical aggressiveness- check.
* Reckless disregard for safety of self or others- check.
* Consistent irresponsibility in work and family environments- check.
* Lack of remorse- check.
He has also killed animals in the most brutal fashion, which is also a sign of a poor prognosis.
The boys were drained of blood. He likes to drink blood. Although that doesn't mean anything, I say lets throw him on the suspect list. Simple.
I've cut myself and sucked on the blood am I part of an occult?
Do you have a link that proves he killed animals?
The boys were "drained" of blood?
WHERE are you getting your information from?
I’m sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth I’ve had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of hope Money for dope Money for rope No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dickyIs gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap Money for dope Money for rope I’m sick to death of seeing things From tight-lipped, condescending, mama’s little chauvinists All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth now I’ve had enough of watching scenes Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap It’s money for dope Money for rope Ah, I’m sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now I’ve had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth
Ugh. If you knew anything about the case besides the documentaries, then you would know where I'm getting my information from. Thanks for the song lyrics though.
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coachchris
Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 749
"Ugh. If you knew anything about the case besides the documentaries, then you would know where I'm getting my information from. Thanks for the song lyrics though."
No worries about the lyrics
I've done far more research on this then just the documentaries and I've never seen anything anywhere (I even joined a board that believes they are guilty in order to make my own judgement and hear both sides) that shows animals being killed by the accused or Damien "liked to drink blood" or that the blood was "drained" from the bodies. Sounds more like an episode of Dexter to me.
That said, if you can provide me a link to said facts I would be more then willing to do more research. Thanks in advance!
Adolescence in essence is all about trust.
Leaving is for the answering machine.
I've cut myself and sucked on the blood am I part of an occult?
Do you have a link that proves he killed animals?
The boys were "drained" of blood?
WHERE are you getting your information from?
Ugh. If you knew anything about the case besides the documentaries, then you would know where I'm getting my information from. Thanks for the song lyrics though.
I've done far more research on this then just the documentaries and I've never seen anything anywhere (I even joined a board that believes they are guilty in order to make my own judgement and hear both sides) that shows animals being killed by the accused or Damien "liked to drink blood" or that the blood was "drained" from the bodies. Sounds more like an episode of Dexter to me.
That said, if you can provide me a link to said facts I would be more then willing to do more research. Thanks in advance!
I would like to know the answers to the initial questions above too, please.
Also, Lostdogs, I read your "Exhibit 500" post a couple of days ago and thought it sounded disturbing. But then last night I clicked on the link you provided and it was not immediately obvious where your post came from. Could you be more specific about where the documentation of the things you posted can be found, please?
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I haven't gotten the impression that people are saying he was happy-go-lucky - only that they are saying he's innocent.
I've cut myself and sucked on the blood am I part of an occult?
Do you have a link that proves he killed animals?
The boys were "drained" of blood?
WHERE are you getting your information from?
I’m sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocritics All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth I’ve had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of hope Money for dope Money for rope No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dickyIs gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap Money for dope Money for rope I’m sick to death of seeing things From tight-lipped, condescending, mama’s little chauvinists All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth now I’ve had enough of watching scenes Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me With just a pocketful of soap It’s money for dope Money for rope Ah, I’m sick and tired of hearing things From uptight, short-sighted, narrow-minded hypocrites All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now I’ve had enough of reading things By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth now Just gimme some truth now All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth All I want is the truth Just gimme some truth
Leaving is for the answering machine.
http://wm3org.typepad.com/blog/2010/09/ ... ments.html
From what I gather on the website, videos are archived for later viewing so you don't have to stress abt watching it live.
Ugh. If you knew anything about the case besides the documentaries, then you would know where I'm getting my information from. Thanks for the song lyrics though.
No worries about the lyrics
I've done far more research on this then just the documentaries and I've never seen anything anywhere (I even joined a board that believes they are guilty in order to make my own judgement and hear both sides) that shows animals being killed by the accused or Damien "liked to drink blood" or that the blood was "drained" from the bodies. Sounds more like an episode of Dexter to me.
That said, if you can provide me a link to said facts I would be more then willing to do more research. Thanks in advance!
Leaving is for the answering machine.
I would like to know the answers to the initial questions above too, please.
Also, Lostdogs, I read your "Exhibit 500" post a couple of days ago and thought it sounded disturbing. But then last night I clicked on the link you provided and it was not immediately obvious where your post came from. Could you be more specific about where the documentation of the things you posted can be found, please?