Four Israelis killed in shooting attack near Hebron
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I think some are making the mistake of believing that Hamas cares about the Palestinians. The Palestinians are pawns to them. I really wish they'd never been elected. I don't hold out much hope for peace talks as long as the Palestinians are divided between Fatah and Hamas.0
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michelle822 wrote:I think some are making the mistake of believing that Hamas cares about the Palestinians. The Palestinians are pawns to them. I really wish they'd never been elected. I don't hold out much hope for peace talks as long as the Palestinians are divided between Fatah and Hamas.
Israel doesn't care about those ordinary Palestinians either or they would cease with the expansion of settlements and end the occupation.
Hamas doesn't care. Hamas is Israels best friend. all they are doing is giving Israel the excuse to keep acting in a way that we all know is wrong.0 -
This is a perfect example of how terrorists sway political decisions using violence. These people carry out an attack, knowing full well that they will provoke a massive retaliatory response that will only reinforce their agenda. The world would be a better place if these people were scoured from the face of it, but there's no way to do that at this point, and the correct response on the part of the Israelis is to do nothing but stick to a peace agenda, assuming they are truly interested in such. They often do not appear to be truly interested in peace, though, at least certain elements. In any case, Hamas gets stronger every time Palestinian civilians are killed. That's what they want, and Israel needs to stop taking the goddamn bait.0
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rebornFixer wrote:This is a perfect example of how terrorists sway political decisions using violence. These people carry out an attack, knowing full well that they will provoke a massive retaliatory response that will only reinforce their agenda. The world would be a better place if these people were scoured from the face of it, but there's no way to do that at this point, and the correct response on the part of the Israelis is to do nothing but stick to a peace agenda, assuming they are truly interested in such. They often do not appear to be truly interested in peace, though, at least certain elements. In any case, Hamas gets stronger every time Palestinian civilians are killed. That's what they want, and Israel needs to stop taking the goddamn bait.
and are you saying that Israel is interested in peace? really?0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:the world would be a better place if Israel ended the occupation.
and are you saying that Israel is interested in peace? really?
It won't kill you to concede that I have a point, I swear. Your yourself said you're no Hamas fan. But for the record, I agree 100%. The world would be a better place if Israel withdrew to pre-1967 borders.0 -
rebornFixer wrote:TriumphantAngel wrote:the world would be a better place if Israel ended the occupation.
and are you saying that Israel is interested in peace? really?
It won't kill you to concede that I have a point, I swear. Your yourself said you're no Hamas fan. But for the record, I agree 100%. The world would be a better place if Israel withdrew to pre-1967 borders.0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:
It won't kill you to concede that I have a point, I swear. Your yourself said you're no Hamas fan. But for the record, I agree 100%. The world would be a better place if Israel withdrew to pre-1967 borders.
You're right, making points on a message board really doesn't capture the reality of the situation. What's your post count at, again?0 -
rebornFixer wrote:TriumphantAngel wrote:
It won't kill you to concede that I have a point, I swear. Your yourself said you're no Hamas fan. But for the record, I agree 100%. The world would be a better place if Israel withdrew to pre-1967 borders.
You're right, making points on a message board really doesn't capture the reality of the situation. What's your post count at, again?[/quote]
meaning?0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:meaning?
Not sure what your "point" comment was even about.0 -
rebornFixer wrote:This is a perfect example of how terrorists sway political decisions using violence. These people carry out an attack, knowing full well that they will provoke a massive retaliatory response that will only reinforce their agenda. The world would be a better place if these people were scoured from the face of it, but there's no way to do that at this point, and the correct response on the part of the Israelis is to do nothing but stick to a peace agenda, assuming they are truly interested in such. They often do not appear to be truly interested in peace, though, at least certain elements. In any case, Hamas gets stronger every time Palestinian civilians are killed. That's what they want, and Israel needs to stop taking the goddamn bait.
think about this. ^^^
why is hamas in the position to 'get stronger' in the first place??
i see nothing magnanimous in israel not taking the bait and responding as they always do.hear my name
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rebornFixer wrote:TriumphantAngel wrote:meaning?
Not sure what your "point" comment was even about.
i didn't say i didn't agree with you, just keeping you honest. you only told one side of the story.0 -
catefrances wrote:
i see nothing magnanimous in israel not taking the bait and responding as they always do.
I am not trying to celebrate Israel's actions, which is itself a super-loathsome notion, apparently. The irony here is that I am basically arguing in favor of fewer Palestinian deaths, and people are on some level taking issue with what I said. I meant it to be taken literally: More Palestinian deaths = more terrorism in the form of Hamas and similar groups.0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:
i didn't say i didn't agree with you, just keeping you honest. you only told one side of the story.
Fair enough. Hope you are well, by the way.0 -
rebornFixer wrote:This is a perfect example of how terrorists sway political decisions using violence. These people carry out an attack, knowing full well that they will provoke a massive retaliatory response that will only reinforce their agenda. The world would be a better place if these people were scoured from the face of it, but there's no way to do that at this point, and the correct response on the part of the Israelis is to do nothing but stick to a peace agenda, assuming they are truly interested in such. They often do not appear to be truly interested in peace, though, at least certain elements. In any case, Hamas gets stronger every time Palestinian civilians are killed. That's what they want, and Israel needs to stop taking the goddamn bait.
i apologize for that.0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:to be fair, reading this again, i think i misread this initially. you didn't say Israel is truly interested in peace.
i apologize for that.
Its all good ... I should know by now that you're going to keep me honest.0 -
rebornFixer wrote:catefrances wrote:
i see nothing magnanimous in israel not taking the bait and responding as they always do.
I am not trying to celebrate Israel's actions, which is itself a super-loathsome notion, apparently. The irony here is that I am basically arguing in favor of fewer Palestinian deaths, and people are on some level taking issue with what I said. I meant it to be taken literally: More Palestinian deaths = more terrorism in the form of Hamas and similar groups.
i didnt think you were. but yes it is a loathsome notion to celebrate any violence, theres no apparently about it.
less palestinian deaths will only come when israel removes its oppressive framework from ALL of israel... and yes im including the occupied territories(always an ironic term imo) in israel. cause lets be honest it will always be known as israel... and include the palestinians in the any plan for the good of what is their own homeland... just as it is the jews homeland... this seems to get lost in the shuffle.hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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why does Israel offer incentives, and encourage settlers to move to settlements in the West Bank that are illegal under international law?0
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TriumphantAngel wrote:why does Israel offer incentives, and encourage settlers to move to settlements in the West Bank that are illegal under international law?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:TriumphantAngel wrote:why does Israel offer incentives, and encourage settlers to move to settlements in the West Bank that are illegal under international law?
well Israel's people should hold them accountable.
because sadly there is 4 dead people who shouldn't have ever been there in the first place.0 -
TriumphantAngel wrote:well Israel's people should hold them accountable.
because sadly there is 4 dead people who shouldn't have ever been there in the first place."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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