Pearl Jam Fans' Music Critic Roleplay. (Be Honest)

Cropduster84

Vs is my least played Pearl Jam album.

I prefer No Code, Yield and Riot Act.


What's a 'fanboy'?

LONGRD

Cropduster84 wrote:

Ten is my least played Pearl Jam album.

I prefer No Code, Yield and Riot Act.


What's a 'fanboy'?

http://confessionsofafanboy.com/category/artists/pearl-jam/

LONGRD

over_bends wrote:

I've been reading through this topic with high interest. Giving much attention to your points throughout, considering what you were saying. But here is where I stopped, so I can respond to this. It is at this point where credibility goes all the way out the window. Now I just view you as an uninformed fan who has no clue what they are talking about. What an ignorant statement.

Bullshit. I know what I'm talking when it comes to punk rock music. It's junk!
I've always stand by my statement regarding this genre and ain't no band ever gonna chance that.

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Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

You have a good point though. Don't appologize.

why is it that they released "Who You Are" to radio, but promoted te album on Letterman by playing "Hail, Hail"?

For some reason they have some sort of issue with releasing a "we don't give a fuck about radio play singles" to represent their album, yet still want to rock in public. What's with that? Why not just admit they want to rock the fuck out and get the whole world involved? I don't think you lose credibility by being popular, but they certainly seem to think so.

"who you are"? "Nothing as it seems"? As singles? Seriously? Come on.

Yes, some of their marketing/promotional strategies have been head scratchers.

over bends

LongRd. wrote:

Bullshit. I know what I'm talking when it comes to punk rock music. It's junk!
I've always stand by my statement regarding this genre and ain't no band ever gonna chance that.

You can call it junk. That's fine and your opinion. I have nothing to say about that. But to say punk music has no melody or rhythm is pretty ignorant and shows in fact that you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to punk music. If you don't know what you are talking about with punk music, then no one has any reason to take you seriously about what you say about Pearl Jam.

Cropduster84

Im not avocados biggest fan but it aint shit, just the production and some songs are a little stale, but live they really work,

NY PJ1

avocado is awesome,,, i dont get all the non-love

Jason P

I only have one complaint / suggestion.

No more songs like "No More". (regardless of your political position, that song blows goats)

That song makes Evacuation seem like Stairway to Heaven.

All right. That's my negativity for the next two months. Thanks for letting me vent.

pjfanman

direwolf74 wrote:

You guys are nuts. Avocado is their best album in years.

Yup...couldn't agree more. Yield and self-titled are easily the best albums....to my ears

LONGRD

over_bends wrote:

You can call it junk. That's fine and your opinion. I have nothing to say about that. But to say punk music has no melody or rhythm is pretty ignorant and shows in fact that you do not know what you are talking about when it comes to punk music. If you don't know what you are talking about with punk music, then no one has any reason to take you seriously about what you say about Pearl Jam.

Seriously, you call these music? All I hear is half-ass composed melodies here. No rhythm!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1TGUv33DUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLahs7yCprQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2M_hpoPwk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm1870K22lc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjVZaZ4o6_4 (jeez, I wonder how long it took these guys to a 1 minute song)

Joe2TheRevenge

Jason P wrote:

No more songs like "No More". (regardless of your political position,...

on that note, i would like to complain about the politics

i personally sit on the exact same side of the fence as Ed with all the issues, but i still wish it would just be buried already.

He's starting to sound like a broken record. Yeah yeah, corporate greed, yeah.....bush sucks. Gotcha. Can we talk about something else now? it's been YEARS!

sing a damn song about your new computer for all i care.

HailRoad24

Jason P wrote:

I only have one complaint / suggestion.

No more songs like "No More". (regardless of your political position, that song blows goats)

That song makes Evacuation seem like Stairway to Heaven.

All right. That's my negativity for the next two months. Thanks for letting me vent.

Amen. "No More" is just cringe-inducing. Just the title of it makes me want to vomit.

I really hope they steer clear of overt politics on the next album. It's grown tiresome after the past 8 years.

And I agree with many posters here. Avocado just seems soulless to me. Just empty. I dug it when it came out, but quickly lost interest. Why? The album just had no identity IMHO.

I will say, that after making a Binaural "Original Tracklisting" mix, I am blown away at how fluid, impassioned and exploring they sounded during the Binaural sessions. The album suffers a little from the final tracklisting, but, to me, this album contains Ed at his most complex when it comes to song structure.

Riot Act was fine, but seemed only half-cooked. There was effort, immediacy, and competent musicianship, but I think the overall production killed it.

I think they need to go in an opposite direction, i.e. no more Adam Kaspar, for the next album.

stupidcorporatewhore

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LONGRD

HailRoad24 wrote:

...And I agree with many posters here. Avocado just seems soulless to me. Just empty. I dug it when it came out, but quickly lost interest. Why? The album just had no identity IMHO.

I will say, that after making a Binaural "Original Tracklisting" mix, I am blown away at how fluid, impassioned and exploring they sounded during the Binaural sessions. The album suffers a little from the final tracklisting, but, to me, this album contains Ed at his most complex when it comes to song structure.

Riot Act was fine, but seemed only half-cooked. There was effort, immediacy, and competent musicianship, but I think the overall production killed it.

I think they need to go in an opposite direction, i.e. no more Adam Kaspar, for the next album.

Yes, they desperately need Brendan O'Brien back as a producers. While PJ continues to decline, Brendan continues to stay as a top producer.

From wiki: here's the list of SOME successful albums Brendan produced after PJ's last great effort, Yield. Bold albums are the top sellers.
# No. 4 - Stone Temple Pilots (1999)
# Issues - KoЯn (1999)
# The Battle of Los Angeles - Rage Against the Machine (1999)
# Renegades - Rage Against the Machine (2000)
# Conspiracy Of One - The Offspring (2000)
# Shangri-La Dee Da - Stone Temple Pilots (2001)
# Drops of Jupiter - Train (2001)
# The Rising - Bruce Springsteen (2002)
# My Private Nation - Train (2003)
# Splinter - The Offspring (2003)
# A Crow Left of the Murder - Incubus (2004)
# Alive at Red Rocks - Incubus (2004)
# Drive - Graham Colton Band (2004)
# Devils and Dust - Bruce Springsteen (2005)
# Rebel, Sweetheart - The Wallflowers (2005)
# For Me, It's You - Train (2006)
# Revelations - Audioslave (2006)
# Light Grenades - Incubus (2006)
# One Man Revolution - The Nightwatchman (2007)
# The Sun and the Moon - The Bravery (2007)
# Libertad - Velvet Revolver (2007)
# Magic - Bruce Springsteen (2007)

Joe2TheRevenge

Brendan OBrien has the magic touch.

He needs to be back.

Jason P

Joe2TheRevenge wrote:

Brendan OBrien has the magic touch.

He needs to be back.

I just heard that Bob Rock might be looking for some work.

Cropduster84

LongRd. wrote:

Yes, they desperately need Brendan O'Brien back as a producers. While PJ continues to decline, Brendan continues to stay as a top producer.

From wiki: here's the list of SOME successful albums Brendan produced after PJ's last great effort, Yield. Bold albums are the top sellers.
# No. 4 - Stone Temple Pilots (1999)
# Issues - KoЯn (1999)
# The Battle of Los Angeles - Rage Against the Machine (1999)
# Renegades - Rage Against the Machine (2000)
# Conspiracy Of One - The Offspring (2000)
# Shangri-La Dee Da - Stone Temple Pilots (2001)
# Drops of Jupiter - Train (2001)
# The Rising - Bruce Springsteen (2002)
# My Private Nation - Train (2003)
# Splinter - The Offspring (2003)
# A Crow Left of the Murder - Incubus (2004)
# Alive at Red Rocks - Incubus (2004)
# Drive - Graham Colton Band (2004)
# Devils and Dust - Bruce Springsteen (2005)
# Rebel, Sweetheart - The Wallflowers (2005)
# For Me, It's You - Train (2006)
# Revelations - Audioslave (2006)
# Light Grenades - Incubus (2006)
# One Man Revolution - The Nightwatchman (2007)
# The Sun and the Moon - The Bravery (2007)
# Libertad - Velvet Revolver (2007)
# Magic - Bruce Springsteen (2007)

Again, all you keep doing is listing your tastes. Velvet Revolver? KoRn? Audioslave? Give me a fuckin break, I'd take RA and Binaural any day over that stodgy shit.


We get it - you dont like Binaural, RA or Avocado.

They're not bad records - you just dont like them.

LONGRD

Cropduster84 wrote:

Again, all you keep doing is listing your tastes. Velvet Revolver? KoRn? Audioslave? Give me a fuckin break, I'd take RA and Binaural any day over that stodgy shit.


We get it - you dont like Binaural, RA or Avocado.

They're not bad records - you just dont like them.

Nooooooooo!!!!I said these are top sellers that Brendan O'Brien has produced since Yield.
I hate Korn with a passion! :mad:

Longrd. wrote:

From wiki: here's the list of SOME successful albums Brendan produced after PJ's last great effort, Yield. Bold albums are the top sellers.

Cropduster84

LongRd. wrote:

Nooooooooo!!!!I said these are top sellers that Brendan O'Brien has produced since Yield.

Yeah, but whats your point? What has brendan o brien producing big sellers got to do with anything?

Im sorry, im not having a go, just failing to see your point.

LONGRD

Cropduster84 wrote:

Yeah, but whats your point? What has brendan o brien producing big sellers got to do with anything?

Im sorry, im not having a go, just failing to see your point.

My point is that PJ hasn't made a great album in ten years, since Yield produced by Brendan O'Brien.

their last three studio were average with "avocado" being a piece of junk.
I just wanted to see if there are any PJ fans out there who shares the same feeling.
And there are a few who's brave enough to criticize the band then there are those who truly enjoyed the last three releases (which I don't understand).

slightofjeff

LongRd. wrote:

My point is that PJ hasn't made a great album in ten years, since Yield produced by Brendan O'Brien.

their last three studio were average with "avocado" being a piece of junk.
I just wanted to see if there are any PJ fans out there who shares the same feeling.
And there are a few who's brave enough to criticize the band then there are those who truly enjoyed the last three releases (which I don't understand).

It just sounds like you've outgrown Pearl Jam. Or they've outgrown you.

No shame in that. Have fun listening to ... whatever it is you listen to.