No more songs like "No More". (regardless of your political position, that song blows goats)
That song makes Evacuation seem like Stairway to Heaven.
All right. That's my negativity for the next two months. Thanks for letting me vent.
Amen. "No More" is just cringe-inducing. Just the title of it makes me want to vomit.
I really hope they steer clear of overt politics on the next album. It's grown tiresome after the past 8 years.
And I agree with many posters here. Avocado just seems soulless to me. Just empty. I dug it when it came out, but quickly lost interest. Why? The album just had no identity IMHO.
I will say, that after making a Binaural "Original Tracklisting" mix, I am blown away at how fluid, impassioned and exploring they sounded during the Binaural sessions. The album suffers a little from the final tracklisting, but, to me, this album contains Ed at his most complex when it comes to song structure.
Riot Act was fine, but seemed only half-cooked. There was effort, immediacy, and competent musicianship, but I think the overall production killed it.
I think they need to go in an opposite direction, i.e. no more Adam Kaspar, for the next album.
...And I agree with many posters here. Avocado just seems soulless to me. Just empty. I dug it when it came out, but quickly lost interest. Why? The album just had no identity IMHO.
I will say, that after making a Binaural "Original Tracklisting" mix, I am blown away at how fluid, impassioned and exploring they sounded during the Binaural sessions. The album suffers a little from the final tracklisting, but, to me, this album contains Ed at his most complex when it comes to song structure.
Riot Act was fine, but seemed only half-cooked. There was effort, immediacy, and competent musicianship, but I think the overall production killed it.
I think they need to go in an opposite direction, i.e. no more Adam Kaspar, for the next album.
Yes, they desperately need Brendan O'Brien back as a producers. While PJ continues to decline, Brendan continues to stay as a top producer.
From wiki: here's the list of SOME successful albums Brendan produced after PJ's last great effort, Yield. Bold albums are the top sellers.
# No. 4 - Stone Temple Pilots (1999) # Issues - KoЯn (1999) # The Battle of Los Angeles - Rage Against the Machine (1999) # Renegades - Rage Against the Machine (2000)
# Conspiracy Of One - The Offspring (2000)
# Shangri-La Dee Da - Stone Temple Pilots (2001) # Drops of Jupiter - Train (2001) # The Rising - Bruce Springsteen (2002)
# My Private Nation - Train (2003) # Splinter - The Offspring (2003) # A Crow Left of the Murder - Incubus (2004)
# Alive at Red Rocks - Incubus (2004)
# Drive - Graham Colton Band (2004) # Devils and Dust - Bruce Springsteen (2005)
# Rebel, Sweetheart - The Wallflowers (2005)
# For Me, It's You - Train (2006)
# Revelations - Audioslave (2006)
# Light Grenades - Incubus (2006)
# One Man Revolution - The Nightwatchman (2007)
# The Sun and the Moon - The Bravery (2007)
# Libertad - Velvet Revolver (2007) # Magic - Bruce Springsteen (2007)
Yes, they desperately need Brendan O'Brien back as a producers. While PJ continues to decline, Brendan continues to stay as a top producer.
From wiki: here's the list of SOME successful albums Brendan produced after PJ's last great effort, Yield. Bold albums are the top sellers.
# No. 4 - Stone Temple Pilots (1999) # Issues - KoЯn (1999) # The Battle of Los Angeles - Rage Against the Machine (1999) # Renegades - Rage Against the Machine (2000)
# Conspiracy Of One - The Offspring (2000)
# Shangri-La Dee Da - Stone Temple Pilots (2001) # Drops of Jupiter - Train (2001) # The Rising - Bruce Springsteen (2002)
# My Private Nation - Train (2003) # Splinter - The Offspring (2003) # A Crow Left of the Murder - Incubus (2004)
# Alive at Red Rocks - Incubus (2004)
# Drive - Graham Colton Band (2004) # Devils and Dust - Bruce Springsteen (2005)
# Rebel, Sweetheart - The Wallflowers (2005)
# For Me, It's You - Train (2006)
# Revelations - Audioslave (2006)
# Light Grenades - Incubus (2006)
# One Man Revolution - The Nightwatchman (2007)
# The Sun and the Moon - The Bravery (2007)
# Libertad - Velvet Revolver (2007) # Magic - Bruce Springsteen (2007)
Again, all you keep doing is listing your tastes. Velvet Revolver? KoRn? Audioslave? Give me a fuckin break, I'd take RA and Binaural any day over that stodgy shit.
We get it - you dont like Binaural, RA or Avocado.
They're not bad records - you just dont like them.
'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
Again, all you keep doing is listing your tastes. Velvet Revolver? KoRn? Audioslave? Give me a fuckin break, I'd take RA and Binaural any day over that stodgy shit.
We get it - you dont like Binaural, RA or Avocado.
They're not bad records - you just dont like them.
Nooooooooo!!!!I said these are top sellers that Brendan O'Brien has produced since Yield.
I hate Korn with a passion! :mad:
Yeah, but whats your point? What has brendan o brien producing big sellers got to do with anything?
Im sorry, im not having a go, just failing to see your point.
My point is that PJ hasn't made a great album in ten years, since Yield produced by Brendan O'Brien.
their last three studio were average with "avocado" being a piece of junk. I just wanted to see if there are any PJ fans out there who shares the same feeling.
And there are a few who's brave enough to criticize the band then there are those who truly enjoyed the last three releases (which I don't understand).
My point is that PJ hasn't made a great album in ten years, since Yield produced by Brendan O'Brien.
their last three studio were average with "avocado" being a piece of junk. I just wanted to see if there are any PJ fans out there who shares the same feeling.
And there are a few who's brave enough to criticize the band then there are those who truly enjoyed the last three releases (which I don't understand).
It just sounds like you've outgrown Pearl Jam. Or they've outgrown you.
No shame in that. Have fun listening to ... whatever it is you listen to.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
I think everyone is entitled to their own opinion but i am going to have to strongly disagree on this one. I don't think that PJ has made a bad album, the weakest i think is riot act, but still it was better than most everything else that was released that year. And as for the self titled album, i thought it was amazing.....quick and to the point and full of energy. It was a harken back to days of old but it goes in a new direction.
"Being undecided...it's dangerous. And I'll give you a perfect example: people with mullets, that's indecision."-EV
I Just Realized That Pearl Jam Hasn't Made A Good Album In Ten Years. Vitalogy was good but not near their first two releases. It might also be the reason for their decline of popularity. The problem is because only 10 out of the 14 songs were "regular" songs. Like Vs, the singles for this album were poorly selected, why weren't Corduroy and Better Man released as singles? But like Black from Ten, both of these songs made a life of their own and became very popular. 7/10 rating for this.
This is where you lost me. Who gives a fuck about what single was released? What does that have to do with the quality of the album. Later you talked about how your musical tastes have grown since 2003. Is it to radio singles? Have you ever heard Everybody Knows this is Nowhere on the radio? Does it matter?
Only 10 of the 14 tracks are real songs. There were only 11 tracks on Vs. but we don't complain about that. Last Exit, STBC, NFY, Tremor Christ, Nothing Man, Whipping, Corduroy, Aye Davanita, Satan's Bed, Better Man and Immortality are 11 of the best tracks in the Pearl Jam cannon. NFY, Corduroy, Better Man and Immortality are the hight of Ed's rock song writing, musically and lyrically. The other factor is that these songs are so solid that they continue to anchor Pearl Jam live shows 13 years later.
Even the casual rock fan, who doesn't even like Pearl Jam, would disagree with your assessment.
I don't wish that all Pearl Jam fans were the same but I do wish there was some common ground on what is good and what is great.
TEN is the greatest album of all time by any band AND I WILL NOT TOLERATE DISSENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Severed Hand makes Avacado better than Riot Act, but yeah, I miss old PJ.
They do still rock out live, but not quite as wild as the old days. but hell, they've been in the game for a long time. Just glad they are still around.
I think PJ has gone the way of all the great classic rock bands. They just make music they like, but they are old and a little more mellowed out. No shame in that.
but when you hear a band's new music described as more "mature" and "complex" thats usually a pretty good sign that it sucks.
Record sales and single sales have absolutely nothing to do with the quality of an album.
Punk is incredible.
for me...
Ten: 6/10 - I've listened to it to death. I also think Eddie's voice is the weakest on this. The production dampens the songs too.
Vs: 9/10 - I think this is the sound of PJ really finding their identity. There's so much energy (and its punk energy too) and intensity.
Vitalogy: 9/10 - I can't believe how good this album is! Almost every single song is astounding - it's perfectly sequenced and produced. Last Exit is the best opener they've ever done. I remember hearing Not for You and thinking "this is the best thing ever!!!". Corduroy, Whipping, it's just such a good album.
No Code: 8/10 - I think it's interesting how the heavy songs on this album are really, really heavy and the softer ones are really soft. In My Tree is one of my favourite PJ songs. I think this album has the roots of a lot of their later work. It was a necessary step to survive as a band. Present Tense is also completely underrated.
Yield: 6/10 (at best) - I do not understand the love for this album at all. Given to Fly is great, so are Brain of J and Faithfull (which is probably my fave on the album), but No Way and Wishlist sound like b-sides to me. Do The Evolution is fun, but 'red dot' is horrible, In Hiding just doesn't get me, All Those Yesterdays is sweet but not much more. It's horribly sequenced too. And Pilate should've stayed as a b-side too. 'U' was better than most of the tracks on the album.
Binaural: 8/10 - I think the production could be a bit tighter, there are songs where you kind of lose some of the guitars in the mix. I don't think the album gets the love it deserves. There's kind of an assumption on this board that Yield was the peak and Binaural and Riot Act the trough - I think the opposite is true .
Riot Act: 9/10 - this is the latter-day PJ album I've listened to the most. There's a run of 10 tracks at the start which are just back-to-back fantastic. I think the last 5 lose a bit of steam, but 1/2 full is brilliant - it sounds like mountain music.
Pearl Jam: 8/10 - somebody said Parachutes was sleep-inducing. It does sound like a lullaby and I don't see what's wrong with that. I think it's a gorgeous song. I love every song up to Unemployable, but I think Gone doesn't quite work the way it should and Big Wave doesn't really get me.
My point is that PJ hasn't made a great album in ten years, since Yield produced by Brendan O'Brien.
their last three studio were average with "avocado" being a piece of junk. I just wanted to see if there are any PJ fans out there who shares the same feeling.
And there are a few who's brave enough to criticize the band then there are those who truly enjoyed the last three releases (which I don't understand).
You say that like its a fact. Avocado IS NOT JUNK, YOU JUST DON'T LIKE IT.
'Brave' enough to critisize the band?!?! What the fuck. Yeah, taking a pop at Binaural is so brave.
You haven't really enjoyed a pearl jam release in 10 years.....maybe they aren't the band for you.....
'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
I see some people on here accuse others of blindly following the band and being a fanboy for claiming to like everything the band has put out. I resent that, because i am definitely not a fanboy but i love pretty much everything the band has ever produced and that's an honest claim. I think i can count only 3 songs at the MOST that i can say i dislike, and even then i don't actually hate them because i can still listen to them. Off the top of my head - Sweet Lew, Whale Song, and Girl. That's really about it.
I definitely do not not NOT miss old PJ. Yeah, there was anger there in the live performances, but they sounded so frickin' rough that it hurts my ears. I respect 'Ten' because it shows that the band had potential. Each album furthered that potential and showed just how good the band are at making music. And, the live act has gotten better every tour. I don't ever want another album that sounds remotely like Ten, or like any other album for that matter.
It sometimes feels weird to me that i haven't been disappointed with anything the band has done. I listen to all of the albums equally, and i love them all. I love 'Ten', but its by no means their best work.
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I liked the fact that as a awkward I hate the world 9th grader Ten was released. I remember specific moments when like ten or so of my close friends would be at a party and you would here a new and fresh sound and that you could listen to the whole album and it would go along with the pace of the get togther and you would never have to fast forward or whatever. Vs. came along a little later when you had a lot of great bands that were similar and you could feel the pull back of the band happening. Vitology happened when I was in college and the songs seem to fit well with that era. I admit after that I bought the albums and listened, but I never felt the connection I had to those memories of moments when you would here a song in the background. I guess I would say there first three albums were a soundtrack to personal experiences, but now I'm 32 and a teacher. I have less moments where these songs fit into my life. I have to say I have played the into the wild soundrack at least 4 times a day everyday since it came out. Great music.
My point is that PJ hasn't made a great album in ten years, since Yield produced by Brendan O'Brien.
their last three studio were average with "avocado" being a piece of junk. I just wanted to see if there are any PJ fans out there who shares the same feeling.
And there are a few who's brave enough to criticize the band then there are those who truly enjoyed the last three releases (which I don't understand).
Because you don't understand it doesn't make it factual. I dont mind people expressing their opinion, but you make it sound that your opinions are "facts". In the end it's all a matter of taste...
Could it be that your taste just changed over the last ten years and that your music interests are just different?
I think Ten being overplayed is the reason why its a classic album. Would you overplay a crap album? That said I give it 4 out of 5 stars because of the shitty production. Someone said Eddie's voice is weakest on this album. Well they haven't listed to Riot Act as much as I have because he sounds like shit on every song on Riot Act. Also his best vocals ever are on Release Me and Black imo.
Second the original poster is on crack. Avocado rocks!
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I couldn't disagree more; PJ is quite possibly there best album. I agree that they need to get rid of a lot of the punk influences and write more epic songs. But look at Inside Job; perfect example of an epic song.
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Could it be that your taste just changed over the last ten years and that your music interests are just different?
Not really, I still love great music. When I hear it, I praise it. Like Radiohead, they've been around almost as long as PJ and are still making great records that are interesting and innovative. Their style totally, yet the quality is still there. I'll add Mike Patton too, even though his not in a major band anymore, the side project CDs he released has been high quality and interesting.
I couldn't disagree more; PJ is quite possibly there best album. I agree that they need to get rid of a lot of the punk influences and write more epic songs. But look at Inside Job; perfect example of an epic song.
Agree on staying away from punk sound. Inside Job is a great song, one of the 6 or 7 good songs on that CD.
But look at Inside Job; perfect example of an epic song.
Ok..well here is a prime example of what is wrong with Avocado. Inside Job tries so hard to be an epic song..it is forced, doesn't have a natural flow. The lyrics are really bad as well. "life comes from within your heart and desire"...horrible lyric...honestly sounds like Celine Dion wrote that. I think Mike is an awesome guy, but writing lyrics is not his strong point.
Anyways, the Pearl Jam catalogue is full of great material. I honestly think the first five albums are all classics. Binaural and Riot Act are solid in their own respects as well. But Avocado was a massive step down in quality. Pearl Jam just did what REM and U2 have done before them. It doesn't mean they still aren't great bands, but at some point in their careers they do release something that is a little less great than what they are capable of. You have to ask yourself, is Pearl Jam releasing some of the best music of its career lately? Unfortunately, the answer is no.
If you want you can compare the latest Radiohead album to Avocado. Clearly Radiohead is still at a creative height while Pearl Jam is struggling a bit. And the world knows it.
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Amen. "No More" is just cringe-inducing. Just the title of it makes me want to vomit.
I really hope they steer clear of overt politics on the next album. It's grown tiresome after the past 8 years.
And I agree with many posters here. Avocado just seems soulless to me. Just empty. I dug it when it came out, but quickly lost interest. Why? The album just had no identity IMHO.
I will say, that after making a Binaural "Original Tracklisting" mix, I am blown away at how fluid, impassioned and exploring they sounded during the Binaural sessions. The album suffers a little from the final tracklisting, but, to me, this album contains Ed at his most complex when it comes to song structure.
Riot Act was fine, but seemed only half-cooked. There was effort, immediacy, and competent musicianship, but I think the overall production killed it.
I think they need to go in an opposite direction, i.e. no more Adam Kaspar, for the next album.
From wiki: here's the list of SOME successful albums Brendan produced after PJ's last great effort, Yield. Bold albums are the top sellers.
# No. 4 - Stone Temple Pilots (1999)
# Issues - KoЯn (1999)
# The Battle of Los Angeles - Rage Against the Machine (1999)
# Renegades - Rage Against the Machine (2000)
# Conspiracy Of One - The Offspring (2000)
# Shangri-La Dee Da - Stone Temple Pilots (2001)
# Drops of Jupiter - Train (2001)
# The Rising - Bruce Springsteen (2002)
# My Private Nation - Train (2003)
# Splinter - The Offspring (2003)
# A Crow Left of the Murder - Incubus (2004)
# Alive at Red Rocks - Incubus (2004)
# Drive - Graham Colton Band (2004)
# Devils and Dust - Bruce Springsteen (2005)
# Rebel, Sweetheart - The Wallflowers (2005)
# For Me, It's You - Train (2006)
# Revelations - Audioslave (2006)
# Light Grenades - Incubus (2006)
# One Man Revolution - The Nightwatchman (2007)
# The Sun and the Moon - The Bravery (2007)
# Libertad - Velvet Revolver (2007)
# Magic - Bruce Springsteen (2007)
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
He needs to be back.
Again, all you keep doing is listing your tastes. Velvet Revolver? KoRn? Audioslave? Give me a fuckin break, I'd take RA and Binaural any day over that stodgy shit.
We get it - you dont like Binaural, RA or Avocado.
They're not bad records - you just dont like them.
I hate Korn with a passion! :mad:
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Yeah, but whats your point? What has brendan o brien producing big sellers got to do with anything?
Im sorry, im not having a go, just failing to see your point.
their last three studio were average with "avocado" being a piece of junk.
I just wanted to see if there are any PJ fans out there who shares the same feeling.
And there are a few who's brave enough to criticize the band then there are those who truly enjoyed the last three releases (which I don't understand).
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
It just sounds like you've outgrown Pearl Jam. Or they've outgrown you.
No shame in that. Have fun listening to ... whatever it is you listen to.
for the least they could possibly do
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This is where you lost me. Who gives a fuck about what single was released? What does that have to do with the quality of the album. Later you talked about how your musical tastes have grown since 2003. Is it to radio singles? Have you ever heard Everybody Knows this is Nowhere on the radio? Does it matter?
Only 10 of the 14 tracks are real songs. There were only 11 tracks on Vs. but we don't complain about that. Last Exit, STBC, NFY, Tremor Christ, Nothing Man, Whipping, Corduroy, Aye Davanita, Satan's Bed, Better Man and Immortality are 11 of the best tracks in the Pearl Jam cannon. NFY, Corduroy, Better Man and Immortality are the hight of Ed's rock song writing, musically and lyrically. The other factor is that these songs are so solid that they continue to anchor Pearl Jam live shows 13 years later.
Even the casual rock fan, who doesn't even like Pearl Jam, would disagree with your assessment.
I don't wish that all Pearl Jam fans were the same but I do wish there was some common ground on what is good and what is great.
S/T is fantastic and full of life.
'98 - 9/1 9/4 9/18
'00 - 8/6 8/7 8/15 8/17 9/5
'03 - 4/9 4/15 4/19 7/11 7/12
'04 - 10/6 10/8
'05 - 9/11 9/12 9/13 9/15
'06 - 5/27 5/28 7/7 7/13 7/18 7/22 7/23
BTW there are 12 songs in Vs.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Severed Hand makes Avacado better than Riot Act, but yeah, I miss old PJ.
They do still rock out live, but not quite as wild as the old days. but hell, they've been in the game for a long time. Just glad they are still around.
but when you hear a band's new music described as more "mature" and "complex" thats usually a pretty good sign that it sucks.
Punk is incredible.
for me...
Ten: 6/10 - I've listened to it to death. I also think Eddie's voice is the weakest on this. The production dampens the songs too.
Vs: 9/10 - I think this is the sound of PJ really finding their identity. There's so much energy (and its punk energy too) and intensity.
Vitalogy: 9/10 - I can't believe how good this album is! Almost every single song is astounding - it's perfectly sequenced and produced. Last Exit is the best opener they've ever done. I remember hearing Not for You and thinking "this is the best thing ever!!!". Corduroy, Whipping, it's just such a good album.
No Code: 8/10 - I think it's interesting how the heavy songs on this album are really, really heavy and the softer ones are really soft. In My Tree is one of my favourite PJ songs. I think this album has the roots of a lot of their later work. It was a necessary step to survive as a band. Present Tense is also completely underrated.
Yield: 6/10 (at best) - I do not understand the love for this album at all. Given to Fly is great, so are Brain of J and Faithfull (which is probably my fave on the album), but No Way and Wishlist sound like b-sides to me. Do The Evolution is fun, but 'red dot' is horrible, In Hiding just doesn't get me, All Those Yesterdays is sweet but not much more. It's horribly sequenced too. And Pilate should've stayed as a b-side too. 'U' was better than most of the tracks on the album.
Binaural: 8/10 - I think the production could be a bit tighter, there are songs where you kind of lose some of the guitars in the mix. I don't think the album gets the love it deserves. There's kind of an assumption on this board that Yield was the peak and Binaural and Riot Act the trough - I think the opposite is true .
Riot Act: 9/10 - this is the latter-day PJ album I've listened to the most. There's a run of 10 tracks at the start which are just back-to-back fantastic. I think the last 5 lose a bit of steam, but 1/2 full is brilliant - it sounds like mountain music.
Pearl Jam: 8/10 - somebody said Parachutes was sleep-inducing. It does sound like a lullaby and I don't see what's wrong with that. I think it's a gorgeous song. I love every song up to Unemployable, but I think Gone doesn't quite work the way it should and Big Wave doesn't really get me.
You say that like its a fact. Avocado IS NOT JUNK, YOU JUST DON'T LIKE IT.
'Brave' enough to critisize the band?!?! What the fuck. Yeah, taking a pop at Binaural is so brave.
You haven't really enjoyed a pearl jam release in 10 years.....maybe they aren't the band for you.....
I definitely do not not NOT miss old PJ. Yeah, there was anger there in the live performances, but they sounded so frickin' rough that it hurts my ears. I respect 'Ten' because it shows that the band had potential. Each album furthered that potential and showed just how good the band are at making music. And, the live act has gotten better every tour. I don't ever want another album that sounds remotely like Ten, or like any other album for that matter.
It sometimes feels weird to me that i haven't been disappointed with anything the band has done. I listen to all of the albums equally, and i love them all. I love 'Ten', but its by no means their best work.
Vs - Love it
Vitalogy - Love it
No Code - Love it
Yeild - Love it
Binaural - Love it
Riot Act - Love it
Pearl Jam - Love it
This is an honest claim...i listen to them as albums.
That is all for now.
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Because you don't understand it doesn't make it factual. I dont mind people expressing their opinion, but you make it sound that your opinions are "facts". In the end it's all a matter of taste...
Could it be that your taste just changed over the last ten years and that your music interests are just different?
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finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
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finally, FUCK TICKETMASTER
I think Ten being overplayed is the reason why its a classic album. Would you overplay a crap album? That said I give it 4 out of 5 stars because of the shitty production. Someone said Eddie's voice is weakest on this album. Well they haven't listed to Riot Act as much as I have because he sounds like shit on every song on Riot Act. Also his best vocals ever are on Release Me and Black imo.
Second the original poster is on crack. Avocado rocks!
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
I thought the world...Turns out the world thought me
1/2 full is up there with anything on the early stuff.
Not really, I still love great music. When I hear it, I praise it. Like Radiohead, they've been around almost as long as PJ and are still making great records that are interesting and innovative. Their style totally, yet the quality is still there. I'll add Mike Patton too, even though his not in a major band anymore, the side project CDs he released has been high quality and interesting.
Agree on staying away from punk sound. Inside Job is a great song, one of the 6 or 7 good songs on that CD.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Ok..well here is a prime example of what is wrong with Avocado. Inside Job tries so hard to be an epic song..it is forced, doesn't have a natural flow. The lyrics are really bad as well. "life comes from within your heart and desire"...horrible lyric...honestly sounds like Celine Dion wrote that. I think Mike is an awesome guy, but writing lyrics is not his strong point.
Anyways, the Pearl Jam catalogue is full of great material. I honestly think the first five albums are all classics. Binaural and Riot Act are solid in their own respects as well. But Avocado was a massive step down in quality. Pearl Jam just did what REM and U2 have done before them. It doesn't mean they still aren't great bands, but at some point in their careers they do release something that is a little less great than what they are capable of. You have to ask yourself, is Pearl Jam releasing some of the best music of its career lately? Unfortunately, the answer is no.
If you want you can compare the latest Radiohead album to Avocado. Clearly Radiohead is still at a creative height while Pearl Jam is struggling a bit. And the world knows it.