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The Fixer

If you get credit for receptions then i think mccoy is a late first rounder

The Waiting Trophy Man

81 wrote:

looks like we are getting the eagles/steelers game tonight on fox. good game to scout.

Thanks for the heads up - should be good!

81

The Juggler wrote:

also, you keep bringing up westbrook. mccoy's numbers last year compare very favorably to an average b west year. they are very similiar backs. expect similiar numbers from mccoy this year...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/597 ... 8SjAH.uLYF

not quite to the westbrook level

in 06 westbrook at 1212 yards rushing and 699 yards recieving (77 catches) w/ 11td's
07 he was at 1333, 771, 90 w/12td's


that's 1900+ yards and 2100+

Indifference71

Fantasy draft tomorrow night. 10th pick in 12 team league. Hard to prepare when you have no idea who will be available when you're up.

81

The Fixer wrote:

If you get credit for receptions then i think mccoy is a late first rounder

late first round i'm taking andre Johnson or White from atlanta.


unless you get a top 3 RB, there is just too much risk to take the 8th or 9th best rb early. i'd rather get some bookend WR's and fill my RB roster out with a couple of mid tier backs and a bunch of prospects. Over the last few years i've picked up westbrook, gore, & foster with mid round selections. foster was a 7th rounder in one leagure for me last year.

81

Indifference71 wrote:

Fantasy draft tomorrow night. 10th pick in 12 team league. Hard to prepare when you have no idea who will be available when you're up.

best player available is my moto, regardless of position

Indifference71

81 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

If you get credit for receptions then i think mccoy is a late first rounder

late first round i'm taking andre Johnson or White from atlanta.


unless you get a top 3 RB, there is just too much risk to take the 8th or 9th best rb early. i'd rather get some bookend WR's and fill my RB roster out with a couple of mid tier backs and a bunch of prospects. Over the last few years i've picked up westbrook, gore, & foster with mid round selections. foster was a 7th rounder in one leagure for me last year.

That's exactly what I'm hoping to do with my 10th pick. I'm thinking a big time WR and then a top tier QB with the 2nd round pick.

81

Indifference71 wrote:

81 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

If you get credit for receptions then i think mccoy is a late first rounder

late first round i'm taking andre Johnson or White from atlanta.


unless you get a top 3 RB, there is just too much risk to take the 8th or 9th best rb early. i'd rather get some bookend WR's and fill my RB roster out with a couple of mid tier backs and a bunch of prospects. Over the last few years i've picked up westbrook, gore, & foster with mid round selections. foster was a 7th rounder in one leagure for me last year.

That's exactly what I'm hoping to do with my 10th pick. I'm thinking a big time WR and then a top tier QB with the 2nd round pick.

depends on scoring.

after the top few qb's, there is alot of parity. I was using Cutler alot last year, as i was able to pick him up super late. heck, i picked him up late again this year.

here is my first draft of this fantasy season. i was 8th out of 10. i most likely took tolbert too high, but i'm not sold on mathews.

we start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1k, 1D and 1w/r flex. pretty standard scoring, point per reception and 6 for a passing td

1. (8) Andre Johnson
(Hou - WR)
2. (13) Roddy White
(Atl - WR)
3. (28) Reggie Wayne
(Ind - WR)
4. (33) LeGarrette Blount
(TB - RB)
5. (48) Dallas Clark
(Ind - TE)
6. (53) Matt Schaub
(Hou - QB)
7. (68) Beanie Wells
(Ari - RB)
8. (73) Mike Tolbert
(SD - RB)
9. (88) Marshawn Lynch
(Sea - RB)
10. (93) Jay Cutler
(Chi - QB)
11. (108) Mike Williams
(Sea - WR)
12. (113) Marcedes Lewis
(Jac - TE)
13. (128) Roy Williams
(Chi - WR)
14. (133) Jason Snelling
(Atl - RB)
15. (148) Garrett Hartley
(NO - K)
16. (153) Detroit
(Det - DEF)

The Juggler

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

also, you keep bringing up westbrook. mccoy's numbers last year compare very favorably to an average b west year. they are very similiar backs. expect similiar numbers from mccoy this year...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/597 ... 8SjAH.uLYF

not quite to the westbrook level

in 06 westbrook at 1212 yards rushing and 699 yards recieving (77 catches) w/ 11td's
07 he was at 1333, 771, 90 w/12td's


that's 1900+ yards and 2100+

i said an average westbrook year. you mentioned his two best...two of the best in eagles franchise history.

mccoy had 1700 in his first year as a starter. 1900 is probably something he'll surpass this year.

81

The Juggler wrote:

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

also, you keep bringing up westbrook. mccoy's numbers last year compare very favorably to an average b west year. they are very similiar backs. expect similiar numbers from mccoy this year...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/597 ... 8SjAH.uLYF

not quite to the westbrook level

in 06 westbrook at 1212 yards rushing and 699 yards recieving (77 catches) w/ 11td's
07 he was at 1333, 771, 90 w/12td's


that's 1900+ yards and 2100+

i said an average westbrook year. you mentioned his two best...two of the best in eagles franchise history.

mccoy had 1700 in his first year as a starter. 1900 is probably something he'll surpass this year.

those are the years i had him.

i think i went back for one my year in 08 when he started to tail off.

i expected those sort of numbers last year from McCoy. if i can get him in the 3rd round, i'll take him. or maybe in the late 2nd round....depending on draft postiona of each league.

The Juggler

mccoy's gonna be a beast for the next 4 or 5 years.

but it wouldn't shock me to see the birds use ronnie brown in short yardage and goal line situations though.

81

The Juggler wrote:

mccoy's gonna be a beast for the next 4 or 5 years.

but it wouldn't shock me to see the birds use ronnie brown in short yardage and goal line situations though.

if he stays healthy....

not many running backs stay on top of the league very long.

i waiting for adrian to start breaking down this year.

just a few names

Shaun Alexander
Larry Johnson
Brian Westbrook
Neal Anderson

anything more than 4 good years out of a RB is gravey.

The Juggler

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

mccoy's gonna be a beast for the next 4 or 5 years.

but it wouldn't shock me to see the birds use ronnie brown in short yardage and goal line situations though.

if he stays healthy....

not many running backs stay on top of the league very long.

i waiting for adrian to start breaking down this year.

just a few names

Shaun Alexander
Larry Johnson
Brian Westbrook
Neal Anderson

anything more than 4 good years out of a RB is gravey.

yeah...probably closer to 4 years. you know what i mean though. he's just entering the prime of his career.

actually now that you mention it, how bout ricky williams? i guess those couple years off did his body well. he's gotta be about 35 or 36 now and still is somewhat effective. i think that was a good pick up for the ravens.

81

Ricky is bit of an odd ball.

other than a couple of years, he's been a platoon guy, which i'm sure has kept him around longer than most.

It's just amazing what 300+ carries in a season does do a RB.

put 350 on a back, and you can put them on the scrap heap within two years.

The Juggler

81 wrote:

Ricky is bit of an odd ball.

other than a couple of years, he's been a platoon guy, which i'm sure has kept him around longer than most.

It's just amazing what 300+ carries in a season does do a RB.

put 350 on a back, and you can put them on the scrap heap within two years.

i think ricky's up over 9,000 yards though. that is pretty damn impressive considering all the time he lost.

and, in case you are concerend, shady mccoy will never come close to 300 or 350 carries per year.

81

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/465 ... 0u8Nn.uLYF

i think we forget, or at least i did, of how great he was for a while

02 he averaged 4.8 yards per carry on 383 totes 1853 yards russhing. the next year he had 392 carries. can't blame him for retiring after those two seaons. add in the receptions and he was getting tackled 450 times a season

81

you realize, vick has a shot of cracking the top 50 for all time career rushing yards

Newch91

81 wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

mccoy's gonna be a beast for the next 4 or 5 years.

but it wouldn't shock me to see the birds use ronnie brown in short yardage and goal line situations though.

if he stays healthy....

not many running backs stay on top of the league very long.

i waiting for adrian to start breaking down this year.

just a few names

Shaun Alexander
Larry Johnson
Brian Westbrook
Neal Anderson

anything more than 4 good years out of a RB is gravey.

I'm sure Chris Johnson will be joining that list soon.

The Fixer

Is Joe Buck sick? HIs voice sounds like shit. I noticed this a few weeks ago during a fox baseball game.

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

Is Joe Buck sick? HIs voice sounds like shit. I noticed this a few weeks ago during a fox baseball game.

i think so.

also pretty sure terry bradshaw is plastered.