"Bullied"
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I noticed another thread on this forum discussing whether or not being gay is genetic, a choice, or possibly a combination of both. The organization where I work has just co-produced and released a documentary about a landmark, pioneering case on gay bullying in schools. It is being premiered in Washington D.C. at an event in early October. Prior to this premiere, it will be shown in a limited release (August 25-August 31) in Los Angeles at The Landmark theatre on W. Pico Boulevard.
My office watched the film, along with the real life subject of the film, Jamie Nabozny, on Tuesday of this week here in Montgomery, Alabama. Jamie spoke to us when the film was over. Bill Brummel, the documentary's producer, was in town as well with Jamie.
Some of you might be familiar with Ben Harper. Harper was the supporting act for Pearl Jam for several dates last fall in North America and in Australia. Ben lended us his song called "I'll Rise" for this film. Ben actually came to our office earlier this summer to learn more about the film and to give us his blessing with the song.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/n ... in-schools
My office watched the film, along with the real life subject of the film, Jamie Nabozny, on Tuesday of this week here in Montgomery, Alabama. Jamie spoke to us when the film was over. Bill Brummel, the documentary's producer, was in town as well with Jamie.
Some of you might be familiar with Ben Harper. Harper was the supporting act for Pearl Jam for several dates last fall in North America and in Australia. Ben lended us his song called "I'll Rise" for this film. Ben actually came to our office earlier this summer to learn more about the film and to give us his blessing with the song.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/n ... in-schools
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Gibson Amphitheatre (Los Angeles): 10/7/09
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to this day, i still believe that bully based on sexual preference should be considered a hate crime.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
one incident involved 2 men holding hands walking downtown when some guy yelled obsceneties from across the street and then ended up crossing and sucker punching one of the men holding hands...
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columb ... ml?ref=rss
another man was in a bar playing pool when a guy hit him over the head with an object because he "apparently" came on to him but witness said the gay guy was just minding his own business playing pool. he suffered permanent brain damage
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le1669511/
if those aren't hate crimes i don't know what is.
we fought on the stairs.
i got in many fights in school.
lots of bullies, lots of stupid shits, lots of i don't fuck around, lots of im an idiot.
good stuff.
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I am tired; my heart is
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I wonder how long it's going to take for people to wake up about this issue? Homosexuals have been treated as second class (or lower) citizens for far too long.
Is it a "hate" crime if a boy picks on a girl or vice versa??? Quit labeling things...
Why don't you feel compassion for people who are treated badly?
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It's a chronic problem that has gone ignored for far too long. I remember how it adversely affected a few classmates of mine and how it probably haunts them to this day. Bullying won't be entirely stopped, but there must be be proactive measures in place (namely in the home where parents are doing a sorry job in today's society) to mitigate the damages as much as possible.
Gibson Amphitheatre (Los Angeles): 10/7/09
Victims of bullying are victims... I don't see how anyone can disagree.
So if your kids come home with black eyes or broken bones from a bully, I'm assuming you'd be okay with that.
that's messed up...
At least not to the extent that some people do.
if you knew anything about parenting or being a parent, you wouldn't make such a stupid comment.
If you are involved in your child's life, you will not have children coming home with black eyes or broken bones out of nowhere. Bullying is a progressive thing, and if you had a clue on being a parent you would/should know when and how to prevent further bullying. Its alot apart our evolutions as children, call it survival of the fittest aif you will. We all have probably experienced bullying in some stage, it happens to all of us.. Its acutally a good character builder and offers the first stages where you stand up for your self or beliefs. THere are extremes in all cases, but bullying is almost unavoidable. Its a part of childhood development. People need to quit making it a bigger issue than it is. Bullying would also be ineffective if parents were move involved in the daily lives of their children, its not hard to tell when something is wrong with your kid...
Quit being such a pusscake.
i have never experienced bullying in my life. my character was built quite solid without it. and for you to say that bullying is a good character builder is just insane. to my mind you are saying children who are bullied... who 'allow' themselves to be bullied are weak and have no character(whatever the hell that means). and that is just not the case.
bullying is never okay, be in in the playground or the office and it should never be seen as just a part of growing up. this just keeps the cycle going.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Wow. It absolutely is something that can be addressed and should be. I am shocked you actually say "survival of the fittest" or it's a "good charcter builder". It's absolutely unnecessary. It messes people up for the rest of their lives and leads some to commit suicide. It's disrespectful.
So, you say if I have a clue as a parent I should know when and how to prevent further bullying? A child at school follows my daughter, stares at her non-stop with these evil eyes that can pierce your soul, intimidates her on the play ground, pretends to be a road block between my child and any playground equipment. My child wants her to stop this behavior. The teachers are told. The principal is told. They assure us they will watch but since she isn't actually hurting anyone they won't do anything. A month later at the pool - the bully swam under water grabbed my childs ankle and pulled her under and wouldn't let go. My child was apologizing later for kicking this girl but she couldn't breath! I don't encourage treating people disrespectfully in return for their behavior but I did tell her that if someone is trying to drown her she should kick as hard as she can to survive. Hmmph... The other parents were told about this. Nothing changed. How am I to prevent it in the future? If the girl would not have let go and my child died, is that appropriate? She just wasn't fit to survive?
Teaching my child to grow elephant skin so she won't hurt anymore really isn't what life should be about. Granted, we can't make people be nice but there can be incentives to encourage that behavior (hence the reason the punishment is greater for driving intoxicated than it is for littering a piece of chewed gum).
Wow. I can let a lot of posts go but this one hit me. Hopefully I'm reading it all wrong. Please let me know.
did you child apologise on her own volition? or was it coerced from her by some clueless adult???
no way in hell would i have supported an apologise to this bully who tried to drown my child.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
#2. If the school chose not to do anything (which was the correct decision) then you as a parent should have taken it upon your self talk to the other childs parents. I am not saying that is the end all be all of solutions, but if your child is unable to diffuse the situation, then you need to, even if that means being a "bully" your self.
Bullying will always happens because kids don't know how to act towards different things...
And please don't be the one blaming suicide on Bullying.
not you.
considering 8% of all kids who are bullied try to commit suicide, i'd say it is a big issue.
good charachter builder you say? try telling that to the dead kids.
I never said bullying is Okay, I said it is inevitable, it will always happen because kids aren't mature about differences and catagorize themselves.
If you are an adult and you allow your self to be bullied then yes your are weak...
staring like this child was doing and putting themselves between their chosen target and the play equipment is intimidation... which no matter which way you cut it IS bullying. and clearly it went beyond what you consider a benign act cause this 'non bully' tried to drown DOAs child.
what would you call it... youthful highjinks???
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Please post the link to that, I hope they included everything that a child is going through, internal, external, home issues, genetics, into them committing suicide.
Which is impossible, so they lump their suicide into the bullying categorie.
Explain to me how bullying is a big deal when it happens in every grade of every school of every class in the world, yet we all managed not to committ suicide???
i never said you did.
but i have to ask... what is fairly common?? bullying or the fact that it builds character??
so because bullying is inevitable we should in your opinion do what????
and no being bullied as an adult doesnt youre weak it means the bully isnt mature enough to be an adult. it means they lack the tools to deal with a situation unless they resort to inappropriate behaviour. bullying is always the fault of the bully NOT their target.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
So an exteme case (story) means we need to stop all forms of intimidation or staring because this one case lead to some messed up kid trying to drown another kid???
well i can only tell you why i managed not to commit suicide.
cause i was NEVER bullied.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
In the state of Florida, they have a zero tolerance policy for bullying. They don't allow it at all. They suspend the bullies and then that's the end of it.
It's so much better than places like New York where the person who gets in trouble is the student who dares to stand up for himself when he's BEING bullied. Yeah. Put your macho head around that! If a child hits another child because he's being harrassed in NY, he gets suspended. So, your attitude wouldn't work in a school situation like that.
The best thing for non-bullies is a place where the administration doesn't tolerate the bullying at all. :geek:
And P.S. this law apparently came about in Florida because of some some gun action at some school. :?
yes intimidation is bullying... what would you call it... a loving embrace???
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Oh, and the suicide thing... I said "leads some". Which is fact. Thank you. I'm done now.
You are right, the bullying adult is incapable of dealing with things maturly,I agree with that statement. I meant that if you are an adult you should be smart/mature enough to not leat it bother you. YOu should know it is simlply insecurities/jelously of the bully.