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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 17,455
    Lynn Swann out -- yeeeeees!
    Means Clay Helton gets fired as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,326
    God dammit! Hope you fuckers get Weis. Or Brady Hoke. 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 17,455
    Hoke, lol.  Forgot about that wreck.
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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,326
    Yessir...the Helton/Weis of Michigan. 
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 8,428
    https://sports.yahoo.com/california-law-student-athletes-profit-name-likeness-ncaa-showdown-mark-emmert-lebron-james-034211884.html

    California lawmakers pass bill allowing student-athletes to make endorsement deals


    The California State Assembly unanimously passed a bill on Monday that will allow student-athletes in the state to profit from the use of their own name, image and likeness, according to USA Today.

    The Fair Pay to Play Act passed 72-0, with seven members not voting, and now should go to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk. It was amended after it passed the State Senate, however, meaning it will need to return there for a re-vote before it can go to Newsom. The original bill passed in the Senate 31-5, and is expected to pass again.

    Should both the Senate and Newsom pass the bill, it will become law on Jan. 1, 2023.

    Should the bill be passed into law, all student-athletes in California would have similar endorsement opportunities provided to Olympic athletes. Schools would not be paying athletes, however the athletes could hire an agent and pursue business deals without losing their eligibility. They would also own the rights to their name and image on all apparel.

    The NCAA did not comment on Monday’s vote, however has already come out in stark opposition of the bill — and even reportedly threatened California schools in a letter by implying that they could be banned from NCAA championships should the bill be passed. The NCAA also said that it would be “impossible to host fair national championships” in California. It officially formed a working group to study the issue in May, just a week after the bill was passed in the Senate.

    While the NCAA is against the bill, it has picked up some high profile endorsements in recent weeks — including from LeBron James and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.

  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 2,655
    Endorsement deals are perfectly fine. But trying to compensate players solely for playing? That’s where the education payment, food and housing comes into play as payment enough. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 15,897
    kinda strange lebron is so vocal about it since he didnt need college to get to the nba.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 17,455
    Probably the least talented team on USC's schedule and they blow it.  Please fire Clay Helton.  With the toughest schedule coming up 2-4 start looks probable.  Damn, football is a lot of fun.   





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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,326
    Gameday in Athens 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,646
    cutz said:
    https://sports.yahoo.com/california-law-student-athletes-profit-name-likeness-ncaa-showdown-mark-emmert-lebron-james-034211884.html

    California lawmakers pass bill allowing student-athletes to make endorsement deals


    The California State Assembly unanimously passed a bill on Monday that will allow student-athletes in the state to profit from the use of their own name, image and likeness, according to USA Today.

    The Fair Pay to Play Act passed 72-0, with seven members not voting, and now should go to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk. It was amended after it passed the State Senate, however, meaning it will need to return there for a re-vote before it can go to Newsom. The original bill passed in the Senate 31-5, and is expected to pass again.

    Should both the Senate and Newsom pass the bill, it will become law on Jan. 1, 2023.

    Should the bill be passed into law, all student-athletes in California would have similar endorsement opportunities provided to Olympic athletes. Schools would not be paying athletes, however the athletes could hire an agent and pursue business deals without losing their eligibility. They would also own the rights to their name and image on all apparel.

    The NCAA did not comment on Monday’s vote, however has already come out in stark opposition of the bill — and even reportedly threatened California schools in a letter by implying that they could be banned from NCAA championships should the bill be passed. The NCAA also said that it would be “impossible to host fair national championships” in California. It officially formed a working group to study the issue in May, just a week after the bill was passed in the Senate.

    While the NCAA is against the bill, it has picked up some high profile endorsements in recent weeks — including from LeBron James and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.

    I never heard top rated athletes going to bed hungry. Any athlete that would get endorsement deals I would think is on scholarship. I’m not against 3rd party endorsements, I think that’s fine. Just thought that statement was a little over the top.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,160
    Probably the least talented team on USC's schedule and they blow it.  Please fire Clay Helton.  With the toughest schedule coming up 2-4 start looks probable.  Damn, football is a lot of fun.   





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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 17,455
    Probably the least talented team on USC's schedule and they blow it.  Please fire Clay Helton.  With the toughest schedule coming up 2-4 start looks probable.  Damn, football is a lot of fun.   





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    We'll give you Taggart...
    I feel your pain, man.  In comparison to Taggart, Helton is an excellent coach.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,818
    mace1229 said:
    cutz said:
    https://sports.yahoo.com/california-law-student-athletes-profit-name-likeness-ncaa-showdown-mark-emmert-lebron-james-034211884.html

    California lawmakers pass bill allowing student-athletes to make endorsement deals


    The California State Assembly unanimously passed a bill on Monday that will allow student-athletes in the state to profit from the use of their own name, image and likeness, according to USA Today.

    The Fair Pay to Play Act passed 72-0, with seven members not voting, and now should go to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s desk. It was amended after it passed the State Senate, however, meaning it will need to return there for a re-vote before it can go to Newsom. The original bill passed in the Senate 31-5, and is expected to pass again.

    Should both the Senate and Newsom pass the bill, it will become law on Jan. 1, 2023.

    Should the bill be passed into law, all student-athletes in California would have similar endorsement opportunities provided to Olympic athletes. Schools would not be paying athletes, however the athletes could hire an agent and pursue business deals without losing their eligibility. They would also own the rights to their name and image on all apparel.

    The NCAA did not comment on Monday’s vote, however has already come out in stark opposition of the bill — and even reportedly threatened California schools in a letter by implying that they could be banned from NCAA championships should the bill be passed. The NCAA also said that it would be “impossible to host fair national championships” in California. It officially formed a working group to study the issue in May, just a week after the bill was passed in the Senate.

    While the NCAA is against the bill, it has picked up some high profile endorsements in recent weeks — including from LeBron James and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.

    I never heard top rated athletes going to bed hungry. Any athlete that would get endorsement deals I would think is on scholarship. I’m not against 3rd party endorsements, I think that’s fine. Just thought that statement was a little over the top.
    of course it is. they get better meals then every other college student. out of touch spoiled brats at the highest levels of recruitment. the sad part of it is that only like 3-5% of the college players will it affect but they are going to blow up the whole system for a few jokers who don't want any part of college anyway.


  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,160
    edited September 16
    It will affect more than just a handful of big name athletes on scholarships.  Smaller schools could have local businesses feature athletes in ads, commercials, etc.  How is it any different form any other college student being employed and making money on the side?
    If the university is making money from an athlete's namesake, the athlete should see some of that. Even if the university puts it in a fund that's promised when the player graduates or gets drafted.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,818
    It will affect more than just a handful of big name athletes on scholarships.  Smaller schools could have local businesses feature athletes in ads, commercials, etc.  How is it any different form any other college student being employed and making money on the side?
    If the university is making money from an athlete's namesake, the athlete should see some of that. Even if the university puts it in a fund that's promised when the player graduates or gets drafted.
    uhh because regular college kids aren't getting free tuition, meals, apparel, free tudors, and everything else that comes with being a top athlete.

    sure some kids will make some extra money here and there. that's not really the issue.  the issue is what is the level of compensation? can a super rich donor pay a guy like Zion Williamson $10 million dollars to play at his school? no salary cap per se?  
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,160
    pjhawks said:
    It will affect more than just a handful of big name athletes on scholarships.  Smaller schools could have local businesses feature athletes in ads, commercials, etc.  How is it any different form any other college student being employed and making money on the side?
    If the university is making money from an athlete's namesake, the athlete should see some of that. Even if the university puts it in a fund that's promised when the player graduates or gets drafted.
    uhh because regular college kids aren't getting free tuition, meals, apparel, free tudors, and everything else that comes with being a top athlete.

    sure some kids will make some extra money here and there. that's not really the issue.  the issue is what is the level of compensation? can a super rich donor pay a guy like Zion Williamson $10 million dollars to play at his school? no salary cap per se?  
    No, the issue is why should someone else make money off your namesake?  Scholarships, meals, etc have nothing to do with it.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,646
    Scholarships have a lot to do with it. An athlete on full scholarship is essentially getting paid 30, 40 or 50k, even at public schools.
    I think that is more than fair compensation from the school. If a third party wants to offer endorsement offers then that's fine, but they are getting "paid" by the school.
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,160
    When I say scholarships have nothing to do with it, what I mean is the scholarship has nothing to do with the school raking in money off that person's namesake. This is capital. This is the athlete's worth.  Not every student athlete is on scholarship, by the way.  Especially the small school athlete signing an endorsement with the local car dealer - it's going to affect them more than it is any Heisman contender.  The NFL isn't going to be waiting on 99.9% of people who play football in the NCAA.  Don't deny those kids the opportunity to start earning for themselves just because they play sports.  I fail to see how anyone can not support this.
    Let's not kid ourselves here, college football is a huge business. Why is it ok for the schools to make money off the player but the player can't make money off his own likeness?  Why is no one this riled up about college coaches' salaries?
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,646
    I've said before, in this thread, college coach salaries are ridiculous. They should be capped at 300k or something, not making 10 million.
    I also havent seen anyone not in support of this endorsement. Just that a free scholarship seems like comensation enough from the school. If they don't get one, they go somewhere else or maybe they weren't good enough.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 15,897
    football players not on scholarship eat at the same table from the same menu...... I'd guess those STUDENT/atheletes go on to graduate in their field of study. So many of the "stars" bolt early
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 3,646
    I’m willing to bet athletes who did not receive a scholarship will also not be impacted with this new endorsement bill. And will continue to eat like the other millions of students and be just fine.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 9,818
    edited September 17
    pjhawks said:
    It will affect more than just a handful of big name athletes on scholarships.  Smaller schools could have local businesses feature athletes in ads, commercials, etc.  How is it any different form any other college student being employed and making money on the side?
    If the university is making money from an athlete's namesake, the athlete should see some of that. Even if the university puts it in a fund that's promised when the player graduates or gets drafted.
    uhh because regular college kids aren't getting free tuition, meals, apparel, free tudors, and everything else that comes with being a top athlete.

    sure some kids will make some extra money here and there. that's not really the issue.  the issue is what is the level of compensation? can a super rich donor pay a guy like Zion Williamson $10 million dollars to play at his school? no salary cap per se?  
    No, the issue is why should someone else make money off your namesake?  Scholarships, meals, etc have nothing to do with it.

    pjhawks said:
    It will affect more than just a handful of big name athletes on scholarships.  Smaller schools could have local businesses feature athletes in ads, commercials, etc.  How is it any different form any other college student being employed and making money on the side?
    If the university is making money from an athlete's namesake, the athlete should see some of that. Even if the university puts it in a fund that's promised when the player graduates or gets drafted.
    uhh because regular college kids aren't getting free tuition, meals, apparel, free tudors, and everything else that comes with being a top athlete.

    sure some kids will make some extra money here and there. that's not really the issue.  the issue is what is the level of compensation? can a super rich donor pay a guy like Zion Williamson $10 million dollars to play at his school? no salary cap per se?  
    No, the issue is why should someone else make money off your namesake?  Scholarships, meals, etc have nothing to do with it.
    since most football programs lose money do those kids have to give money back if you are basing paying them on revenue generated?

    the fact Zion Williamson added no additional value to the Duke brand. It was already  quite valuable with or without him
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    Go Dawgs!
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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, INPosts: 3,326
    Go Dawgs!
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    Go Dawgs!
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 25,468
    Harbaughahaha :lol:
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    Wobbie said:
    Harbaughahaha :lol:
    Michigan looks like complete trash
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