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Jerry Garcia's guitar / Grateful Dead

chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
edited September 2013 in Other Music
What's with the two cords plugged into it?
I am not a musician.
I have curiosity about this because I never seen any other guitar players with two cords.

Some one care to enlighten me.

Also,
In (youtube) videos of the grateful dead
their bass dude seems to have a unique bass
what is going on

i guess i will go look for links...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILhXlJp2hqE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20dic8S3cWI
this link here has pete townsend getting guitar lessons from bob weir

im just now getting into the grateful dead quite nicely.
it feels good so far.

im very pleased
for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I think one pickup was wired to one amp and the other to another amp. He also could've had an acoustic pickup under the bridge.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I think one pickup was wired to one amp and the other to another amp. He also could've had an acoustic pickup under the bridge.
    you rock
    very badass
    i dont know this stuff

    tell me everything
    haha
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • mervin50mervin50 Posts: 217
    He played Alembic guitars. Check their site out for more details:

    http://www.alembic.com/
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    chadwick wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I think one pickup was wired to one amp and the other to another amp. He also could've had an acoustic pickup under [url=thehttp://www.youtube.com/]thehttp://www.youtube.com/[/url] bridge.
    you rock
    very badass
    i dont know this stuff

    tell me everything
    haha
    I'm not familiar with Garcia's stuff, but I'll look into it. Basically, the guitar was sending either:
    2 different signals to 2 sources
    or
    1 signal to 2 different sources.

    I would guess it was the former, and it just gives the player more control. I.e one amp EQ'd speficially for the neck pickup, or setting, and one amp EQ'd for the other.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • KM157675KM157675 Posts: 14
    Check out the link below it has all the info you need to get even more confused:

    http://www.dozin.com/jers/guitars/tiger/info.html
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    KM157675 wrote:
    Check out the link below it has all the info you need to get even more confused:

    http://www.dozin.com/jers/guitars/tiger/info.html
    After reading this. I am completely wrong. And as a gearhead, completely confused. Loop in a guitar, that's so crazy it just might work.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • DangDangDangDang Posts: 1,551
    ```
    One of the cords was an output & the other was for an input....

    The output went to the amp & the input was from all glory angels up above in high heaven, armed with harps of pure gold.


    Either that or what he says:

    by Rick Turner of Alembic

    During the 70's,Jerry used an extensively re-worked Strat. He played into a fender Twin Reverb amp with preamp outputs going to a Mcintosh 2300 amp. This powered three Alembic B-12 speaker cabinets which were stacked on their sides, so that he had a vertical column of speakers extending about eight feet into the air. They were stacked like this because it gave a much wider horizontal speread to the sound, with less spill going up into the rafters. Garcia's Effects were MXR Distortion + Script Logo for leads and gain, MXR Analog Delay- the green one with 3 knobs, MXR Phase 100 Script logo -( think candyman lead)
    Mutron lll envelope filter- there is no other like it, Mutron Octave Divider

    In the 80's he changed the Mutron Octave Divider out for a Boss OC-2 octave divider. He ran his without the stabilizer and without the ring modulator on.

    The gain /distortion sound went to a Boss HM-2, thats right Heavy Metal 2. He also added a BOSS OS-2 Overdrive/Distortion PEDAL and a Overdrive pedal, OD-1 both these pedals are yellow. After each of these he placed a Boss GE-7 Graphic Equalizer to shape the sounds of these pedals.

    For a delay in the 80's and 90's he used an ADA 2FX which is actually a digital multi effects unit from the early 80's. He had this unit modified so that he could control the length of the delay and the regeneration with foot pedals. Those two knobs were actually missing from his rack unit. He used Ernie Ball foot pedals to sweep these parameters.

    For Speakers he used JBL E120s stacked in a verticle cabinet in four then eventually three speaker configurations.    http://guitar.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ/Ya&zTi=1&sdn=guitar&cdn=hobbies&tm=14&gps=90_403_1008_538&f=00&tt=14&bt=0&bts=0&zu=http%3A//www.epicdimensions.com/gdroadie.html

    jerrynewgear2.jpg
  • CobCob Posts: 857
    mervin50 wrote:
    He played Alembic guitars. Check their site out for more details:

    http://www.alembic.com/

    He had one guitar like that that he stopped playing in the 80's after that he played custom guitar made by Doug Irwin and one made by someone else that he started playing right before he died.

    Sorry, it looks like that one was an Irwin also!

    http://www.dozin.com/jers/guitars/wolf/wolf.htm
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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    i suppose this thread belongs in gearheads whatever.
    thank you everyone for all the help.

    this is awesome stuff.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • toddiet123toddiet123 Posts: 271
    I got this book a few years ago.
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00395 ... PNQPWQVG9M

    its pretty amazing, but very very tech oriented..its quick to get lost..but it answers EVERYTHING. It is amazing they kept track of this stuff.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    chadwick wrote:
    i suppose this thread belongs in gearheads whatever.
    thank you everyone for all the help.

    not necessarily. it's about appreciation for music.
    chadwick wrote:
    this is awesome stuff.

    it is. :)
  • DangDangDangDang Posts: 1,551
    chadwick wrote:
    im just now getting into the grateful dead quite nicely.
    it feels good so far.

    im very pleased

    YAYH!

    I can't think of a quite nicer band (besides, ya know) to get into
    If it feels good so far, keep going, it just gets better & better!

    FYI,
    There's a band called "Dark Star Orchestra" or DSO, who tour the country and sound eerily just like the Grateful Dead, so much so that when Bob Weir & Phil Lesh recently toured ("Furthur"), they actually stole the Jerry from this band (who was then left to find another "Jerry").

    Their "sound" also resembles the Dead. It's not just WHAT they play, but how it SOUNDS to the audience, is important.


    http://www.darkstarorchestra.net/NEWSITE/HTML/dso.php?sec=home

    there's their page.

    they play smaller to medium venues and are definitly worth checking out
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    edited June 2011
    http://youtu.be/nekOzuD4bOs
    thought we had a grateful dead thread around here? (guess this is it?) :|
    haven't located much in that department when i do searching
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/7R3WBhod0sE
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    or just overplayed your part
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/sEke7x4CKSM
    "rat in a drain ditch caught on a limb
    you know better but i know him"

    "9 mile skid on a 10 mile ride"

    :mrgreen:

    "he's gone"...
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    hot as a pistol
    ...but cool inside     8-)


    yes,


    Gar...

    sa - sa - sa... cia !!!


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    jerry_garcia_chia_head.jpg
  • merkinballmerkinball Posts: 2,262
    God help the child who rings that bell
    It may have one good ring left, you can't tell
    One watch by night, one watch by day
    If you get confused just listen to the music play

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEniyvOtETc
    "You're no help," he told the lime. This was unfair. It was only a lime; there was nothing special about it at all. It was doing the best it could.

    http://www.last.fm/user/merkinball/
    spotify:user:merkinball
  • GratefulJamGratefulJam Posts: 1,803
    WOW that was when Jerry stood on the other side.
    chadwick wrote:
    http://youtu.be/7R3WBhod0sE
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    maybe you had too much too fast...
    or just overplayed your part
    "thru extensive negotiations we managed to get the curfew moved back..... we still don't have any time to fu&k around...."

    LA II 06, SB 06, SF III 06, Kokua 07 Ed and Jack, Grant Park 07, EV Berk1 & LA 1 (nice job 10c), 08 DC, MSG1 &2, VH1 rocks, EV Bos II, EV NYC I & II, Milwaukee, EV Maui, EV Hono I & II, Chicago 09 I & II, LA 09 I & II & IV, SD 09 (my girlfriend hit the lottery, best concert of my life 10C rocks)KC 2010, STL 2010, Hartford. Boston, and MSG I & II "who goes around skinning cats anyway", PJ 20 2011 , Portland, Spokane, Seattle LA 2013, Home Shows + Missoula (fatal 👌)
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/WS2roM0l9Xg

    look how much fun they're having
    hair all blown back and shit
    makes my teary eyed or something
    totally the shit

    pearl jam needs some dead tunes in their catalog
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/k77EE3a7DUg

    LADY WITH A FAN

    Let my inspiration flow
    in token lines suggesting rhythm
    that will not forsake me
    till my tale is told and done


    While the firelight's aglow
    strange shadows in the flames will grow
    till things we've never seen
    will seem familiar


    Shadows of a sailor forming
    winds both foul and fair all swarm
    down in Carlisle he loved a lady
    many years ago


    Here beside him stands a man
    a soldier by the looks of him
    who came through many fights
    but lost at love

    While the storyteller speaks
    a door within the fire creaks
    suddenly flies open
    and a girl is standing there


    Eyes alight with glowing hair
    all that fancy paints as fair
    she takes her fan and throws it
    in the lion's den


    "Which of you to gain me, tell
    will risk uncertain pains of Hell?
    I will not forgive you
    if you will not take the chance"


    The sailor gave at least a try
    the soldier being much too wise
    strategy was his strength
    and not disaster


    The sailor coming out again
    the lady fairly lept at him
    that's how it stands today
    you decide if he was wise


    The storyteller makes no choice
    soon you will not hear his voice
    his job is to shed light
    and not to master


    Since the end is never told
    we pay the teller off in gold
    in hopes he will come back
    but he cannot be bought or sold


    TERRAPIN STATION

    Inspiration, move me brightly
    light the song with sense and color,
    hold away despair
    More than this I will not ask
    faced with mysteries dark and vast
    statements just seem vain at last
    some rise, some fall, some climb
    to get to Terrapin


    Counting stars by candlelight
    all are dim but one is bright:
    the spiral light of Venus
    rising first and shining best,
    From the northwest corner
    of a brand-new crescent moon
    crickets and cicadas sing
    a rare and different tune


    Terrapin Station
    in the shadow of the moon
    Terrapin Station
    and I know we'll be there soon


    Terrapin - I can't figure out
    Terrapin - if it's an end or the beginning
    Terrapin - but the train's got its brakes on
    and the whistle is screaming: TERRAPIN

    AT A SIDING

    While you were gone
    these spaces filled with darkness
    The obvious was hidden
    With nothing to believe in
    the compass always points to Terrapin

    The sullen wings of fortune beat like rain
    You're back in Terrapin for good or ill again
    For good or ill again
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/OSXB-e1bYGU
    stella blue

    fuckin great tune
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,158
    Old thread-but, the extra cord may also have something to do with the MIDI system garcia used in later years.
    I am a child of the brent/tiger years and was lucky enough to see my first show in 82.

    Damn shame they cant get the core four to reach a consensus.

    I'm gonna to sing you a hundred verses in ragtime,
    I know this song it ain't never gonna end.
    I'm gonna march you up and down along the county line,
    Take you to the leader of a band.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFUE6Pwc ... re=related
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,158
    Just one thing I ask of you, just one thing for me
    Please forget you know my name, my darling Sugaree
    Shake it, shake it sugaree, just don't tell them that you know me
    Shake it, shake it sugaree, just don't tell them that you know me
    Shake it, shake it sugaree, just don't tell them that you know me

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpFE_1yz ... re=related
  • rollingsrollings Posts: 7,124
    Bob a bouy
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/2oy_zZBMf9Q
    so badass
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/SKglmptMuaI
    :clap:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    http://youtu.be/OBUF3UoOvoI
    jack straw
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • JzPJzP Posts: 933
    chadwick wrote:

    pearl jam needs some dead tunes in their catalog
    ~JzP
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Going to see Furthur next Thursday. Everyone in MA/RI/NH come down to the lawn at Great Woods! That's where the party will be. So says I.

    Looks like there's a nice collection of videos here to watch. Thanks, chadwick. :thumbup:
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    JzP wrote:
    chadwick wrote:

    pearl jam needs some dead tunes in their catalog^2
    fixed :mrgreen:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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