RE: PJ Memorabilia (updated)

Gary Carter

Cool news

Hope your summer is going good kat

:wave:

GratefulJam

Kat wrote:

Trades used to be conducted in the Given To Fly (live) forum. Please feel free to trade there again...the band is not on tour.

Thank you.

the band is not on tour....yet

aNiMaL

Kat wrote:

Oops. sorry....locked the wrong thread. That one is open again...it's fine. :wave:
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Thanks, Kat! :wave:

Poncier

Kat wrote:

Oops. sorry....locked the wrong thread. That one is open again...it's fine. :wave:
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bootlegger10

Is trading a DC '06 poster and an Eddie Vedder Kenyon Hall poster that you bought from the site for a combined $60 flipping if you trade them for a '98 poster with an average price on Ebay of $400?

This is a serious question. Why can someone do this trade, but someone else can't just sell the two posters for cash and then buy the '98 poster? There are TONS of people on here who buy posters for trade bait only, but those who convert the poster to cash first (an extra step only leading to the same outcome as a trade) are ridiculed.

There is no difference with someone trading a poster they bought for $30 with a FMV of $300 for another poster, and someone selling their poster for $300 and buying a tv.

mookeywrench

This is speculation. but i think the idea of flipping is based on buying a freshly released 2010 tour poster, waiting till it sells out, then immediately offering it up on the site.

I could be wrong but either way, if you're unsure about the legitimacy of the trade, take it into PM's.

bootlegger10

mookeywrench wrote:

This is speculation. but i think the idea of flipping is based on buying a freshly released 2010 tour poster, waiting till it sells out, then immediately offering it up on the site.

I could be wrong but either way, if you're unsure about the legitimacy of the trade, take it into PM's.

I have no doubt that trades will always be acceptable on here. I just don't think it is fair that you can't sell a poster for the same amount as the going rate for the poster that was traded for. People intentional buy posters that they expect to increase in value in order to obtain older posters that they don't have enough cash for. They just trade instead of selling the poster first for cash like other people.

Kat's post indicates that you can't sell items for more than cost for "items marked not for resale". All the posters since 2005 when I started buying them have been marked that way, and other limited items. I would infer that you cannot sell any item marked "not for resale" when originally sold for more than the cost.

aNiMaL

Kat wrote:

Trading memorabilia on the forums:

If someone has Pearl Jam memorabilia they no longer want, it will be ok to offer it to fellow Ten Club members on the forums for trade or sale with certain conditions. No links to eBay auctions can be posted in messages or sigs. The policy here is meant to be fan-to-fan and personal, not to create a side business. Links will be considered spam and will be removed, with penalty for multiple or continuing problems that do not follow these guidelines.

It is never ok to flip posters, or sell illegal items (illegal bootlegs from bootleggers, items purchased marked "not for resale", homemade CDs/DVDs, etc.). Please see the Posting Guidelines and Ten Club rules to be sure you are in compliance with all site rules/legalities.

Note: Auctions benefiting legitimate charities or activist issues will be ok and should be done only after consulting the Ten Club and getting their approval. Notify us when this happens before you post to be sure we are aware. (Also note, setting up a charity to support your Bobble Head obsession is not a legitimate charity.)

Thank you!
Kat and Sea

I am not sure why everyone think they cannot sell their PJ memorabilia here on this site. You just cannot auction it here, or post links to your eBay auctions. It is really not that difficult to understand.

bootlegger10

aNiMaL wrote:

Kat wrote:

Trading memorabilia on the forums:

If someone has Pearl Jam memorabilia they no longer want, it will be ok to offer it to fellow Ten Club members on the forums for trade or sale with certain conditions. No links to eBay auctions can be posted in messages or sigs. The policy here is meant to be fan-to-fan and personal, not to create a side business. Links will be considered spam and will be removed, with penalty for multiple or continuing problems that do not follow these guidelines.

It is never ok to flip posters, or sell illegal items (illegal bootlegs from bootleggers, items purchased marked "not for resale", homemade CDs/DVDs, etc.). Please see the Posting Guidelines and Ten Club rules to be sure you are in compliance with all site rules/legalities.

Note: Auctions benefiting legitimate charities or activist issues will be ok and should be done only after consulting the Ten Club and getting their approval. Notify us when this happens before you post to be sure we are aware. (Also note, setting up a charity to support your Bobble Head obsession is not a legitimate charity.)

Thank you!
Kat and Sea

I am not sure why everyone think they cannot sell their PJ memorabilia here on this site. You just cannot auction it here, or post links to your eBay auctions. It is really not that difficult to understand.

Right. You just can't sell an item for more than cost if you bought it from the website when it was marked "Not for resale".

Ty

bootlegger10 wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

This is speculation. but i think the idea of flipping is based on buying a freshly released 2010 tour poster, waiting till it sells out, then immediately offering it up on the site.

I could be wrong but either way, if you're unsure about the legitimacy of the trade, take it into PM's.

I have no doubt that trades will always be acceptable on here. I just don't think it is fair that you can't sell a poster for the same amount as the going rate for the poster that was traded for. People intentional buy posters that they expect to increase in value in order to obtain older posters that they don't have enough cash for. They just trade instead of selling the poster first for cash like other people.

Kat's post indicates that you can't sell items for more than cost for "items marked not for resale". All the posters since 2005 when I started buying them have been marked that way, and other limited items. I would infer that you cannot sell any item marked "not for resale" when originally sold for more than the cost.

You can do what you want, as Kat said, just not on the Forums. She can't dictate what you do on eBay and if you sell them or not. She just said you are welcome to trade only, or sell for marked price. If you want more, go to eBay, easy.

bootlegger10

Ty wrote:

bootlegger10 wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

This is speculation. but i think the idea of flipping is based on buying a freshly released 2010 tour poster, waiting till it sells out, then immediately offering it up on the site.

I could be wrong but either way, if you're unsure about the legitimacy of the trade, take it into PM's.

I have no doubt that trades will always be acceptable on here. I just don't think it is fair that you can't sell a poster for the same amount as the going rate for the poster that was traded for. People intentional buy posters that they expect to increase in value in order to obtain older posters that they don't have enough cash for. They just trade instead of selling the poster first for cash like other people.

Kat's post indicates that you can't sell items for more than cost for "items marked not for resale". All the posters since 2005 when I started buying them have been marked that way, and other limited items. I would infer that you cannot sell any item marked "not for resale" when originally sold for more than the cost.

You can do what you want, as Kat said, just not on the Forums. She can't dictate what you do on eBay and if you sell them or not. She just said you are welcome to trade only, or sell for marked price. If you want more, go to eBay, easy.

Sure. But flipping is flipping. Not a big deal though. Just wanted to make a point.

theserialthrilla

so if you trade an item...whos setting the value of the items...so i can trade a benny for all the studio albums.

this is just not going to work..

dimitrispearljam

theserialthrilla wrote:

so if you trade an item...whos setting the value of the items...so i can trade a benny for all the studio albums.

this is just not going to work..

really kevin,,u actually have a problem whit all this?i know and you know if u want to find anything u will find it..if u want to get rid of it you will find someone..

demetrios

aNiMaL wrote:

Kat wrote:

Trading memorabilia on the forums:

If someone has Pearl Jam memorabilia they no longer want, it will be ok to offer it to fellow Ten Club members on the forums for trade or sale with certain conditions. No links to eBay auctions can be posted in messages or sigs. The policy here is meant to be fan-to-fan and personal, not to create a side business. Links will be considered spam and will be removed, with penalty for multiple or continuing problems that do not follow these guidelines.

It is never ok to flip posters, or sell illegal items (illegal bootlegs from bootleggers, items purchased marked "not for resale", homemade CDs/DVDs, etc.). Please see the Posting Guidelines and Ten Club rules to be sure you are in compliance with all site rules/legalities.

Note: Auctions benefiting legitimate charities or activist issues will be ok and should be done only after consulting the Ten Club and getting their approval. Notify us when this happens before you post to be sure we are aware. (Also note, setting up a charity to support your Bobble Head obsession is not a legitimate charity.)

Thank you!
Kat and Sea

I am not sure why everyone think they cannot sell their PJ memorabilia here on this site. You just cannot auction it here, or post links to your eBay auctions. It is really not that difficult to understand.

2 day's has pasted and nobody yet has made the move to post something or even bump their old thread of goodies they were selling, which has been happening each & everyday here. I think Kat & Sea scared them straight!

theserialthrilla

dimitrispearljam wrote:

theserialthrilla wrote:

so if you trade an item...whos setting the value of the items...so i can trade a benny for all the studio albums.

this is just not going to work..

really kevin,,u actually have a problem whit all this?i know and you know if u want to find anything u will find it..if u want to get rid of it you will find someone..

no problem at all...as ive never sold and never will..just dont understand what can and cant be sold/traded..but to say you can only sell a vinyl for what you bought it for is crazy..stuff goes up in value not just pearl jam items..i would love to be able to get lost dogs for $25...but thats not what its worth out side of this forum.

just say no selling or trading allowed in here full stop finised with..but ive but up threads asking for items is that still allowed??

Kat

It is understood that OLDER and/or rare or out of print or production memorabilia goes up in value. That being said, we are not an auction site...there are auction sites out there. Naturally it would be preferred that you love every item you have and never want to part with it because it's so special to you.

But, if someone has an item and has to part with it and asks their fellow Ten Club members 'if you're interested, send me a PM.' That's a private matter and not an auction...unless there are constant threads from the same person saying that and it looks like flipping and/or they have a side business going on. Then it's not ok. Don't do it. There will be a penalty.

It's ok to post that you're looking for an item. Given To Fly (live) is quiet right now because the band isn't on tour. Just remember what the SPIRIT OF SHARING memorabilia with your fellow Ten Club members is about. People have always been generous, sharing traded tapes, offering extras of something, even giving away extra tix when they have them. It's about our COMMUNITY here...and taking care of each other.

If you have a specific question about an item you're looking to share on the board and aren't sure about something, just write to us (Kat and Sea) and we'll let you know if you're on the right track.

Thanks! (sorry it's so long...this should cover it all)
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P.S. Flipping is buying items (from Ten Club or merch booth, etc.) with the intent to resell for a profit. Don't do it. Someone outside of the U.S. asked for the definition.

Kloddz

Kat wrote:

Naturally it would be preferred that you love every item you have and never want to part with it because it's so special to you.

That should settle it.

Seriously though, I think a lot of thing are a lot clearer now, so thanks for the update. And the "if you're not sure, just ask us staff members" clause seems fair enough to me...

dimitrispearljam

Kat wrote:

. Just remember what the SPIRIT OF SHARING memorabilia with your fellow Ten Club members is about. People have always been generous, sharing traded tapes, offering extras of something, even giving away extra tix when they have them. It's about our COMMUNITY here...and taking care of each other.
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CJMST3K

Kat wrote:

It is understood that OLDER and/or rare or out of print or production memorabilia goes up in value. That being said, we are not an auction site...there are auction sites out there. Naturally it would be preferred that you love every item you have and never want to part with it because it's so special to you.

But, if someone has an item and has to part with it and asks their fellow Ten Club members 'if you're interested, send me a PM.' That's a private matter and not an auction...unless there are constant threads from the same person saying that and it looks like flipping and/or they have a side business going on. Then it's not ok. Don't do it. There will be a penalty.

It's ok to post that you're looking for an item. Given To Fly (live) is quiet right now because the band isn't on tour. Just remember what the SPIRIT OF SHARING memorabilia with your fellow Ten Club members is about. People have always been generous, sharing traded tapes, offering extras of something, even giving away extra tix when they have them. It's about our COMMUNITY here...and taking care of each other.

If you have a specific question about an item you're looking to share on the board and aren't sure about something, just write to us (Kat and Sea) and we'll let you know if you're on the right track.

Thanks! (sorry it's so long...this should cover it all)
x

P.S. Flipping is buying items (from Ten Club or merch booth, etc.) with the intent to resell for a profit. Don't do it. Someone outside of the U.S. asked for the definition.

Well put.

mfc2006

i'd say that Kat's post should answer all of the questions!