This is by no means a done deal. Seattle let it be known that talks were "heating up" to try to get a better offer. Not saying it can't happen, but Seattle is holding out as long as they can for the best deal.
wheter its this weekend or the end of the season...its a done deal
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
Trade talks have progressed quickly between the New York Yankees and Seattle Mariners throughout the morning, and the Yankees now appear on the verge of acquiring top trade target Cliff Lee in exchange for prospects.
Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News reported that, according to an unnamed source, a deal between the Seattle Mariners and New York Yankees for All-Star Cliff Lee is “imminent.”
Lee had previously stated that he would not mind playing in New York. Ironically, that statement was linked to rampant speculation over a potential Mariners-Mets trade.
Joel Sherman of the New York Post, who broke this story, reported that the Mariners will most likely receive catching prospect Jesus Montero and second base prospect David Adams in return for Lee. Sherman opined that the Yankees may send a third prospect, but Double-A prospects Montero and Adams are “sure things” to be included in the package.
Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports recently speculated that the third prospect could be 22-year-old pitcher Zach McAllister.
The deal makes perfect sense for the Yankees. At catcher, Jorge Posada is under club control for one more season, and prospect Austin Romine has been hyped as a potential long-term replacement. At second base, the Yankees are sitting on 27-year-old Robinson Cano, an All-Star and emerging offensive juggernaut.
For the Mariners, they receive what they wanted in return for Cliff Lee’s services. Jesus Montero is a top-tier catching prospect, and David Adams has incredible offensive talent (with a markedly average glove).
The move makes the New York Yankees even higher favorites to repeat as World Series Champions, cementing a rotation of C.C. Sabathia, Cliff Lee, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte, and Phil Hughes.
Ironically, Cliff Lee is scheduled to start against the Yankees tonight at Safeco Field. It will be interesting to see how this scenario is affected by a potential trade.
This story is developing, as the deal is yet to be formally announced
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
Who ever said the NHL has the most parity is crazy. Mediocre doesn't equal parity. In hockey and basketball, OVER 50 PERCENT of the teams make the playoff. In baseball? Just over 25 percent. Much, much, much, much harder. Mediocrity doesn't make for parity.
Actually it kind of does. Let's just take a look at the Eastern Conference playoffs from the NHL last season. The top 3 seeds were all elimated in the first round. That's not mediocrity, that's parity. I'm not saying more playoff teams is better, but at least it increases the odds of a different team winning it all from year to year.
Trade talks have progressed quickly between the New York Yankees and Seattle Mariners throughout the morning, and the Yankees now appear on the verge of acquiring top trade target Cliff Lee in exchange for prospects.
Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News reported that, according to an unnamed source, a deal between the Seattle Mariners and New York Yankees for All-Star Cliff Lee is “imminent.”
Lee had previously stated that he would not mind playing in New York. Ironically, that statement was linked to rampant speculation over a potential Mariners-Mets trade.
Joel Sherman of the New York Post, who broke this story, reported that the Mariners will most likely receive catching prospect Jesus Montero and second base prospect David Adams in return for Lee. Sherman opined that the Yankees may send a third prospect, but Double-A prospects Montero and Adams are “sure things” to be included in the package.
Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports recently speculated that the third prospect could be 22-year-old pitcher Zach McAllister.
The deal makes perfect sense for the Yankees. At catcher, Jorge Posada is under club control for one more season, and prospect Austin Romine has been hyped as a potential long-term replacement. At second base, the Yankees are sitting on 27-year-old Robinson Cano, an All-Star and emerging offensive juggernaut.
For the Mariners, they receive what they wanted in return for Cliff Lee’s services. Jesus Montero is a top-tier catching prospect, and David Adams has incredible offensive talent (with a markedly average glove).
The move makes the New York Yankees even higher favorites to repeat as World Series Champions, cementing a rotation of C.C. Sabathia, Cliff Lee, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte, and Phil Hughes.
Ironically, Cliff Lee is scheduled to start against the Yankees tonight at Safeco Field. It will be interesting to see how this scenario is affected by a potential trade.
This story is developing, as the deal is yet to be formally announced
Excerpt from ESPN New York:
The Mariners might feel compelled to move Lee as quickly as possible for a couple of reasons. First, the sooner they move him, the more they can extract in their asking price, and secondly, there is always the inherent risk that Lee, who has had multiple abdominal strains in his career, could get hurt, which would completely gut his trade value.
Lee might be the closest thing baseball has seen to a sure thing on the trade market in years, because he demonstrated in 2009, after being traded from the Indians to the Phillies, that he is capable of pitching well in a pennant race, and that he responds well while on the postseason stage.
The Twins would look like a different team with Lee joining Francisco Liriano and Scott Baker at the front end of their rotation, and the Texas Rangers would become a more viable threat in the postseason.
The Twins were strongly considering including their top catching prospect, Wilson Ramos, in an offer, an official with knowledge of their thinking told ESPNNewYork.com's Marchand. With Joe Mauer in the fold, Ramos is expendable. The Twins know they would likely lose Lee in free agency, but have reasoned that they could make up for Ramos' loss with the extra draft pick.
If the Rays had stepped outside of their necessarily disciplined approach -- which has worked exceedingly well for them -- and acquired Lee for Jeremy Hellickson, or Wade Davis and Desmond Jennings, then they would have gone into the postseason with the extraordinary rotation of Lee, David Price and Jeff Niemann, with Matt Garza perhaps free to work out of the bullpen.
On Wednesday night, the Mariners had thrown a huge asking price at the Yankees and the Yankees said no. But then Seattle general manager Jack Zduriencik doubled back Thursday and lowered his demands around Montero.
So now the Yankees could have a rotation of Sabathia, Lee, Andy Pettitte, Phil Hughes and A.J. Burnett. Presumably, they could trade Javier Vazquez to a contender in the next 72 hours.
The Phillies could be a front-runner, and they've made outfielder Jayson Werth available in the past.
The Yankees already were viewed as the favorites to land Lee in free agency, and while they are considering moving Montero and others now, they will not have to surrender their first-round pick in order to sign the left-hander.
Talks between the Yankees and Mariners haven't included discussion of a negotiating window on a contract extension for Lee, and there won't be, a source said.
Lee is scheduled to pitch against the Yankees on Friday night in Seattle opposite Hughes.
so my interpretation of this is that perhaps the Mariners dangled him to the Yankees to see if other teams would be willing to up their price.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Have you not learned anything from the mortgage meltdown
LIVE for today baby even if you cant afford it
I see your point, but he makes any staff that much better
i don't wanna live for today i wanna see what we have down on the farm and not always give up on the farm system. thankfully none of the prospect turned out to be good in the santana deal.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
so my interpretation of this is that perhaps the Mariners dangled him to the Yankees to see if other teams would be willing to up their price.
The Yanks seem to always set the market
and you could hardly blame the Mariners for it. If the Yankees were willing to include their best catching prospect three weeks before the deadline, the GM would not be doing his due diligence seeing if the other teams would include similar or better packages.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Can't blame him i'm sure he want's to go to a team that has the best chance to win a ring for him he almost acomplished that last yr ...
the rangers?
either way, he doesn't have a no trade clause. he's going wherever the m's send him. but, not to new york, it appears.
That would be interesting since MLB is funding the Rangers' payroll.
Reading 2004
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016 Fenway 2, 2018 MSG 2022 St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023 MSG 2024, MSG 2024 Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
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wheter its this weekend or the end of the season...its a done deal
Mark Feinsand of the New York Daily News reported that, according to an unnamed source, a deal between the Seattle Mariners and New York Yankees for All-Star Cliff Lee is “imminent.”
Lee had previously stated that he would not mind playing in New York. Ironically, that statement was linked to rampant speculation over a potential Mariners-Mets trade.
Joel Sherman of the New York Post, who broke this story, reported that the Mariners will most likely receive catching prospect Jesus Montero and second base prospect David Adams in return for Lee. Sherman opined that the Yankees may send a third prospect, but Double-A prospects Montero and Adams are “sure things” to be included in the package.
Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports recently speculated that the third prospect could be 22-year-old pitcher Zach McAllister.
The deal makes perfect sense for the Yankees. At catcher, Jorge Posada is under club control for one more season, and prospect Austin Romine has been hyped as a potential long-term replacement. At second base, the Yankees are sitting on 27-year-old Robinson Cano, an All-Star and emerging offensive juggernaut.
For the Mariners, they receive what they wanted in return for Cliff Lee’s services. Jesus Montero is a top-tier catching prospect, and David Adams has incredible offensive talent (with a markedly average glove).
The move makes the New York Yankees even higher favorites to repeat as World Series Champions, cementing a rotation of C.C. Sabathia, Cliff Lee, A.J. Burnett, Andy Pettitte, and Phil Hughes.
Ironically, Cliff Lee is scheduled to start against the Yankees tonight at Safeco Field. It will be interesting to see how this scenario is affected by a potential trade.
This story is developing, as the deal is yet to be formally announced
Actually it kind of does. Let's just take a look at the Eastern Conference playoffs from the NHL last season. The top 3 seeds were all elimated in the first round. That's not mediocrity, that's parity. I'm not saying more playoff teams is better, but at least it increases the odds of a different team winning it all from year to year.
Excerpt from ESPN New York:
The Mariners might feel compelled to move Lee as quickly as possible for a couple of reasons. First, the sooner they move him, the more they can extract in their asking price, and secondly, there is always the inherent risk that Lee, who has had multiple abdominal strains in his career, could get hurt, which would completely gut his trade value.
Lee might be the closest thing baseball has seen to a sure thing on the trade market in years, because he demonstrated in 2009, after being traded from the Indians to the Phillies, that he is capable of pitching well in a pennant race, and that he responds well while on the postseason stage.
The Twins would look like a different team with Lee joining Francisco Liriano and Scott Baker at the front end of their rotation, and the Texas Rangers would become a more viable threat in the postseason.
The Twins were strongly considering including their top catching prospect, Wilson Ramos, in an offer, an official with knowledge of their thinking told ESPNNewYork.com's Marchand. With Joe Mauer in the fold, Ramos is expendable. The Twins know they would likely lose Lee in free agency, but have reasoned that they could make up for Ramos' loss with the extra draft pick.
If the Rays had stepped outside of their necessarily disciplined approach -- which has worked exceedingly well for them -- and acquired Lee for Jeremy Hellickson, or Wade Davis and Desmond Jennings, then they would have gone into the postseason with the extraordinary rotation of Lee, David Price and Jeff Niemann, with Matt Garza perhaps free to work out of the bullpen.
On Wednesday night, the Mariners had thrown a huge asking price at the Yankees and the Yankees said no. But then Seattle general manager Jack Zduriencik doubled back Thursday and lowered his demands around Montero.
So now the Yankees could have a rotation of Sabathia, Lee, Andy Pettitte, Phil Hughes and A.J. Burnett. Presumably, they could trade Javier Vazquez to a contender in the next 72 hours.
The Phillies could be a front-runner, and they've made outfielder Jayson Werth available in the past.
The Yankees already were viewed as the favorites to land Lee in free agency, and while they are considering moving Montero and others now, they will not have to surrender their first-round pick in order to sign the left-hander.
Talks between the Yankees and Mariners haven't included discussion of a negotiating window on a contract extension for Lee, and there won't be, a source said.
Lee is scheduled to pitch against the Yankees on Friday night in Seattle opposite Hughes.
Almost there
Maybe not:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38171956/ ... ayer_news/
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
please dont let it be the mets
please dont let it be the mets
i hope it's the twins or rangers
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Nice try....you would wet yourself
I think we can take it all with or without.....we all know you dont need 5 starters in October, last year we didnt need 4
As someone who was at game 1 ws last year....Lee is impresive
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Have you not learned anything from the mortgage meltdown
LIVE for today baby
I see your point, but he makes any staff that much better
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
The Yanks seem to always set the market
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
and you could hardly blame the Mariners for it. If the Yankees were willing to include their best catching prospect three weeks before the deadline, the GM would not be doing his due diligence seeing if the other teams would include similar or better packages.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
:(
I got too excited too early before it was a done deal.
all these know it alls tweeting the deal is iminent and it will be done before the end of the day blah blah blah
damn them for building me up
Charlotte 03
Asheville 04
Atlanta 12
Greenville 16, Columbia 16
Seattle 18
Nashville 22
the rangers?
either way, he doesn't have a no trade clause. he's going wherever the m's send him. but, not to new york, it appears.
That would be interesting since MLB is funding the Rangers' payroll.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Like it Matters
But Justin Smoak is not in the lineup tonight and rumor has it he is part of the package being offered to Seattle.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
yeah, I saw smoak and martin perez. that's an incredible haul for seattle. much better than the yanks package
report is that Lee to texas is done. m's get smoak and 3 others
what a crazy day
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Awesome. That's just about as far away from Philly as going to Seattle could be for me. Perfect.
Cincy and Texas both remind me of the Phillies in '07/'08 - on the verge of big things.
EDIT: I also think Amaro is taking the noose down from the ceiling as well.