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Cliff Lee to the Yankees?

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edited January 2011 in All Encompassing Trip
Overkill much? How can ANYONE root for this team with a straight face?

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/ ... Vdd02uuU1I
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  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    8-)

    thank you philly for getting this ball rolling in the off season
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  • m0jorisenm0jorisen Posts: 516
    i don't understand what the Yankees are doing wrong here ?
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  • aspoonfulweighsatonaspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,026
    m0jorisen wrote:
    i don't understand what the Yankees are doing wrong here ?


    They're making a mockery out of the game. Sure, if everyone (or YOUR team) had unlimited funds it wouldn't be a big deal, but when the balance of power is controlled solely by dollars then it's a joke.

    Granted, money doesn't guarantee you championships (see 2001-2008), but until baseball gets a form of a salary cap then these things will continue to happen.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    m0jorisen wrote:
    i don't understand what the Yankees are doing wrong here ?


    They're making a mockery out of the game. Sure, if everyone (or YOUR team) had unlimited funds it wouldn't be a big deal, but when the balance of power is controlled solely by dollars then it's a joke.

    Granted, money doesn't guarantee you championships (see 2001-2008), but until baseball gets a form of a salary cap then these things will continue to happen.

    baseball has more parity than any of the other major sports. Look at the teams that have won the WS over the past 10 years. The salary cap is an excuse for teams that are mismanaged.

    Lee isn't going to the yanks. they aren't trading for a guy they know they can get for free in a few months.

    viewtopic.php?f=14&t=136828
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    The Fixer wrote:
    baseball has more parity than any of the other major sports. Look at the teams that have won the WS over the past 10 years. The salary cap is an excuse for teams that are mismanaged.

    Lee isn't going to the yanks. they aren't trading for a guy they know they can get for free in a few months.

    viewtopic.php?f=14&t=136828

    this is absurd ... the yankees, red sox have been in like every post season for the last decade ... i don't follow too much baseball but i would say the majority of post-season spots (over 75%) are allocated to 5 teams ...

    hockey has the most parity by a long shot ...
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    polaris_x wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    baseball has more parity than any of the other major sports. Look at the teams that have won the WS over the past 10 years. The salary cap is an excuse for teams that are mismanaged.

    Lee isn't going to the yanks. they aren't trading for a guy they know they can get for free in a few months.

    viewtopic.php?f=14&t=136828

    this is absurd ... the yankees, red sox have been in like every post season for the last decade ... i don't follow too much baseball but i would say the majority of post-season spots (over 75%) are allocated to 5 teams ...

    hockey has the most parity by a long shot ...

    look at the WS teams over the last decade. There aren't many repeat appearances. and no repeat winners...MLB is only league that can say that
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    The Fixer wrote:
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    m0jorisen wrote:
    i don't understand what the Yankees are doing wrong here ?


    They're making a mockery out of the game. Sure, if everyone (or YOUR team) had unlimited funds it wouldn't be a big deal, but when the balance of power is controlled solely by dollars then it's a joke.

    Granted, money doesn't guarantee you championships (see 2001-2008), but until baseball gets a form of a salary cap then these things will continue to happen.

    baseball has more parity than any of the other major sports. Look at the teams that have won the WS over the past 10 years. The salary cap is an excuse for teams that are mismanaged.

    Lee isn't going to the yanks. they aren't trading for a guy they know they can get for free in a few months.

    viewtopic.php?f=14&t=136828



    DON'T BE TOO SURE 8-)
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  • aspoonfulweighsatonaspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,026
    polaris_x wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    baseball has more parity than any of the other major sports. Look at the teams that have won the WS over the past 10 years. The salary cap is an excuse for teams that are mismanaged.

    Lee isn't going to the yanks. they aren't trading for a guy they know they can get for free in a few months.

    http://community.pearljam.com/viewtopic ... 4&t=136828

    this is absurd ... the yankees, red sox have been in like every post season for the last decade ... i don't follow too much baseball but i would say the majority of post-season spots (over 75%) are allocated to 5 teams ...

    hockey has the most parity by a long shot ...

    Yeah the words "baseball" and "parity" cannot be used in the same sentence unless it's: "There is absolutely no parity in baseball whatsoever".

    Getting hot and winning a weak division (White Sox, Cardinals) to get in the playoffs and then go on to win the title does not equal parity.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,734
    Stop bitching, if this happens the Yankees are doing nothing wrong. It is using their resources to aquire someone via trade.

    You guys were not bitching like this from 2002-2008. Now that they are being smart, it is a problem.
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Stop bitching, if this happens the Yankees are doing nothing wrong. It is using their resources to aquire someone via trade.

    You guys were not bitching like this from 2002-2008. Now that they are being smart, it is a problem.




    use the force luke :mrgreen:

    all these bitches in here ..every team can do this but they choose not to
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  • NoHelmetHardHeadNoHelmetHardHead Posts: 74
    There may not be repeat WS champions but the teams that consistently make the postseason are the same. Teams like the Marlins, Rockies, Twins etc. have to build their teams and have a 2-3 year window max to win a championship before the team becomes too expensive and they have to rebuild, usually by losing a few players to bigger market teams and the Yankess are the worst out of all of them.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,734
    NoHelmetHardHead wrote:
    There may not be repeat WS champions but the teams that consistently make the postseason are the same. Teams like the Marlins, Rockies, Twins etc. have to build their teams and have a 2-3 year window max to win a championship before the team becomes too expensive and they have to rebuild, usually by losing a few players to bigger market teams and the Yankess are the worst out of all of them.

    As I have said all along, where would you like the Yankees revenue to go, if not the on-field product?
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    aspoonfulweighsaton wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    baseball has more parity than any of the other major sports. Look at the teams that have won the WS over the past 10 years. The salary cap is an excuse for teams that are mismanaged.

    Lee isn't going to the yanks. they aren't trading for a guy they know they can get for free in a few months.

    viewtopic.php?f=14&t=136828

    this is absurd ... the yankees, red sox have been in like every post season for the last decade ... i don't follow too much baseball but i would say the majority of post-season spots (over 75%) are allocated to 5 teams ...

    hockey has the most parity by a long shot ...

    Yeah the words "baseball" and "parity" cannot be used in the same sentence unless it's: "There is absolutely no parity in baseball whatsoever".

    Getting hot and winning a weak division (White Sox, Cardinals) to get in the playoffs and then go on to win the title does not equal parity.

    I couldn't disagree with this more. Making the playoffs and winning are two entirely different things. Just ask the braves.

    Also, I think every team in baseball except for 4 or 5 has made the playoffs in the last 10 years (pirates, nats, royals off top of my head). Can't say that about other sports.

    Baseball has more parity than the other sports
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    NoHelmetHardHead wrote:
    There may not be repeat WS champions but the teams that consistently make the postseason are the same. Teams like the Marlins, Rockies, Twins etc. have to build their teams and have a 2-3 year window max to win a championship before the team becomes too expensive and they have to rebuild, usually by losing a few players to bigger market teams and the Yankess are the worst out of all of them.

    yeah, this only happens in baseball. OK
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    The Fixer wrote:
    look at the WS teams over the last decade. There aren't many repeat appearances. and no repeat winners...MLB is only league that can say that

    the yankees have repeated ... regardless, i don't subscribe to your definition of parity ... the reality is that certain teams are more than likely always gonna be in the post-season ... and payroll definitely has something to do with it ... sure, you can bring up the rays but they are far and few between ... the only thing that affords baseball some level of competition is that the major teams tend to be concentrated in the same division so, the weaker divisions can fight it out ...
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    The Fixer wrote:
    Also, I think every team in baseball except for 4 or 5 has made the playoffs in the last 10 years (pirates, nats, royals off top of my head). Can't say that about other sports.

    Baseball has more parity than the other sports

    http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o ... n_droughts

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ML ... n_droughts

    i will grant you that the nhl has way more post-season slots but at the same time you are the one using this as your reasoning ...
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    polaris_x wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Also, I think every team in baseball except for 4 or 5 has made the playoffs in the last 10 years (pirates, nats, royals off top of my head). Can't say that about other sports.

    Baseball has more parity than the other sports

    http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o ... n_droughts

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ML ... n_droughts

    i will grant you that the nhl has way more post-season slots but at the same time you are the one using this as your reasoning ...

    more than half the teams in the NHL make the playoffs. Come on
  • NoHelmetHardHeadNoHelmetHardHead Posts: 74
    Its not the fact that they should put their revenue somewhere else, I agree a lot of teams are mismanaged and its their own fault they cant field competitive teams (see Pirates, Royals, Orioles) but the gap in which they overspend everyone is ridiculous. It is bad for the league, there needs to be some sort of system put in place that prevents them loading up over and over again through free agency.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    NoHelmetHardHead wrote:
    Its not the fact that they should put their revenue somewhere else, I agree a lot of teams are mismanaged and its their own fault they cant field competitive teams (see Pirates, Royals, Orioles) but the gap in which they overspend everyone is ridiculous. It is bad for the league, there needs to be some sort of system put in place that prevents them loading up over and over again through free agency.

    like revenue sharing? oh wait, they already have that
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    The Fixer wrote:
    more than half the teams in the NHL make the playoffs. Come on

    dude ... i actually prefaced my post to say that ... but YOU were the one who said that only x teams didn't make the postseason in the last decade and that no other sports can claim that ...
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    told you guys Lee was going to the yanks

    good trade for both teams

    I'm just happy he didn't go to the mets

    I hate ruben amaro
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,989
    Who ever said the NHL has the most parity is crazy. Mediocre doesn't equal parity. In hockey and basketball, OVER 50 PERCENT of the teams make the playoff. In baseball? Just over 25 percent. Much, much, much, much harder. Mediocrity doesn't make for parity.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Who ever said the NHL has the most parity is crazy. Mediocre doesn't equal parity. In hockey and basketball, OVER 50 PERCENT of the teams make the playoff. In baseball? Just over 25 percent. Much, much, much, much harder. Mediocrity doesn't make for parity.

    the NFL is same way. teams like the '09 philadelphia eagles make the playoffs, even though they had no business being there
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,989
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Who ever said the NHL has the most parity is crazy. Mediocre doesn't equal parity. In hockey and basketball, OVER 50 PERCENT of the teams make the playoff. In baseball? Just over 25 percent. Much, much, much, much harder. Mediocrity doesn't make for parity.

    the NFL is same way. teams like the '09 philadelphia eagles make the playoffs, even though they had no business being there


    Shit. The '08 Eagles AND Cardinals had no business being in that Conference championship.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Who ever said the NHL has the most parity is crazy. Mediocre doesn't equal parity. In hockey and basketball, OVER 50 PERCENT of the teams make the playoff. In baseball? Just over 25 percent. Much, much, much, much harder. Mediocrity doesn't make for parity.

    the NFL is same way. teams like the '09 philadelphia eagles make the playoffs, even though they had no business being there


    Shit. The '08 Eagles AND Cardinals had no business being in that Conference championship.

    you weren't impressed when they beat tavaris jackson in the playoffs that year?
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,989
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    the NFL is same way. teams like the '09 philadelphia eagles make the playoffs, even though they had no business being there


    Shit. The '08 Eagles AND Cardinals had no business being in that Conference championship.

    you weren't impressed when they beat tavaris jackson in the playoffs that year?

    Weak.
  • intodeepintodeep Posts: 7,228
    Stop crying.

    The Yankees being on top is good for baseball. They are the biggest draw in the game. Love them or Hate them TV ratings don't lie.

    Yankees come to town and your stadium sells out. Yankees leave town your stadium goes back to half full on a Thursday night.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 16,989
    intodeep wrote:
    Stop crying.

    The Yankees being on top is good for baseball. They are the biggest draw in the game. Love them or Hate them TV ratings don't lie.

    Yankees come to town and your stadium sells out. Yankees leave town your stadium goes back to half full on a Thursday night.

    Or, in your case, when the Phils are in town, half of your stadium becomes red. ;)

    I don't have a problem with any of it. It's just funny that there's a luxury tax due to one team.
  • aspoonfulweighsatonaspoonfulweighsaton Posts: 2,026
    The Fixer wrote:
    told you guys Lee was going to the yanks

    good trade for both teams

    I'm just happy he didn't go to the mets

    I hate ruben amaro


    This is by no means a done deal. Seattle let it be known that talks were "heating up" to try to get a better offer. Not saying it can't happen, but Seattle is holding out as long as they can for the best deal.
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