15 years old mexican killed...update
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Granted, the 15 year old was not just playing by the river... but, he didn't need to die.
As for rocks vs. gun... gun wins.
I still want to hear/see more of what the investigation provides... but, from this... it looks bad.
Hail, Hail!!!
he did not cross the border
fuck the border
an immaginary line drawn by people in power
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
:thumbup:
Thanks for the laugh.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
hey unsung
glad you can laugh at a time like this
a 15 year old, shot in the head
dead
think his family is laughing about a son or brother dying
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
I hate defending unsung on any issue regarding immigration, but you can't say that the border crossed this kid... he's 15, the border has been there his whole life.
It is an imaginary line drawn by people in power, but we have those lines everyday that we live by... I know where my property ends and where my neighbor's starts, I can't just cross that line and do whatever I want there. I know down the road from me where New York ends and Vermont begins, and some different rules apply there.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
let me get this right
you think that ANYONE who crosses YOUR border
illegally
should be shot and killed
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
would your neighbour kill you for walking on his lawn?
yeah - the border has been there all his life ... ultimately, the issue here is what warrants the loss of the kid's life? ...
It is an imaginary line drawn by people in power, but we have those lines everyday that we live by... I know where my property ends and where my neighbor's starts, I can't just cross that line and do whatever I want there. I know down the road from me where New York ends and Vermont begins, and some different rules apply there.[/quote]
the point is his ancestors were there, using and crossing that river, long before our ancestors stole this nation and made that river a border
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
Yes, that is the issue, and based on the video and everything I've read, nothing this kid did warranted him losing his life. I guess the philosophical issue of borders is a completely different discussion than a poor kid getting shot.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
either way, it sucks for all involved...
For me, If one puts themselves in a situation, consequences follow...good or bad...
not when he was shot and killed because of the border
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
sweet child in time, you'll see the line
the line that's drawn between the good and the bad
see the blind man, he's shooting at the world
the bullets flying, ooh there taking toll
If you've been bad - ohhh lord I bet you have
and you've not been hit, you've not been hit by flying lead
you'd better close your eyes
you better bow your head
wait for the ricochet
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0:05 – SUV #1 on U.S side of fence races away from the camera and stops nears a pedestrian border bridge while several people are running in erratic fashion
0:23 – B/A #1 (long pants in black) is running towards the stopped SUV #1 near the fence and bridge
0:30 – B/A #1 runs towards fence on U.S. side
0:40 – Four (4) assumed Mexican Nationals (M/N) running along the Rio Grande on U.S. side, one near the fence
0:45 – B/A #1 pops through a hole in the fence; One M/N runs toward Mexico; Two M/N’s stay near B/A #1 as he comes through the fence and appear to assault B/A #1 with their hands
0:50 – B/A #2 (Shorts and white shirt) enters in chasing down the U.S. side of the Rio Grande
0:55 – M/N’s notice B/A #2 and leave B/A #1 and run towards the Mexican side of the Rio Grande; B/A #1 appears woozy
0:58 – 1:04 – Camera drops out
1:05 – B/A #2 has weapon drawn while helping B/A #1 who appears to be hurt and is on his knees but upright with arm dangling
1:15 – B/A #2 has weapon drawn and starts to drag B/A #1 while he falls to his hands and crawls alongside
1:19 – B/A #1 condition is worse and he falls to the ground
1:23 – One M/N is standing in the muddy river watching the B/A’s when he suddenly sprints towards the Mexican border
1:27 – B/A #1 is now lying on the ground
1:29 – B/A #2 crouches in front of B/A #1 who appears to be unconscious and readies his firearm in a shooter’s position towards the Mexican border
1:35 – Camera pans back and forth a few times and there appear to be two M/N’s on the Mexican side of the border, one near a bridge column
1:35 to 1:41 – Camera pans back and forth and it is unclear what is transpiring
1:42 – One M/N near the bridge column is now lying on the ground
1:42 to 1:50 – Unclear what is going on as camera pans back and forth
1:51 – B/A #3 arrives on bicycle on the U.S. side to assist B/A #1 and B/A #2
1:52 to 2:02 – Camera pans slowly to M/N #1 who is lying (dead as we now know) on the Mexican side
2:03 – B/A #3 attends to B/A #1 as B/A #2 is in shooters stance with his firearm pointed at the Mexican side
2:03 to 2:23 – Camera is focused on B/A’s, not much transpires
2:24 – B/A #1 regains conscious and is helped to his feet by B/A #3 as B/A #2 provides cover
2:27 – Camera pans back to the M/N near column whose position is unchanged
2:40 – More B/A’s arrive
That is as far as I’m going to take it for now.
And yes I was laughing about the open border comment, not the death of someone.
Calm down there. What fuckin laws we have here? We have laws that allow for an investigation and trial before throwing someone in jail. Let's see what happens.
Godfather.
i would give you that there might be a couple of people that might think that way ... but to say a lot of people here would praise a mexican kid for killing a BA is ludicrous ... you are clearly out of step with the values and beliefs of most people on this board if you think that ...
which is sad ... most people here value human life ...
Very twisted way of seeing things. A murder is a murder. Should the kid have shot an unarmed BA, it would have been the same.
i don't think BA #1 is a BA ... you see him being walked away with his hands behind his back as if he was cuffed
Side note: Is it a strange cosmic requirement that any video footage that captures a crime must be grainy and black & white? And this seemed to be from someones personal equipment to boot.
but why don't some of you go back in this forum and re-read some of the posts put up in the other race and border related issues (topics). BTW my statement was my opinion and reading on other threads from some the members on here brought me to that asumption, please don't ask me to give names or topics look for your self.
as I have stated before the loss of a life so young is very sad but don't sta pointing fingers unless you where there and know what really happened.
Godfather.