What about the Oil????

Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
edited July 2010 in A Moving Train
Why is the top story on here not always about the oil spill? Why do people that I talk to not realize the impact that this is making. Our ocean is being destroyed and people seem semi oblivious to it! There is so much to be said...and people are not saying it. Why aren't more people irate...fucking livid..that this is happening. I actually heard someone at work say "your still talking about the oil spill?" WTF. I found that the only way that people will listen is to tell them that dolphins are washing up on shore dead! People are so good at ignoring things...until it is at their doorstep. I just wonder why people aren't screaming..livid...sick. I know that some people are upset and everyone thinks it sucks...but this should be the top story on everything and people should be demanding that more be done to stop this. OUR OCEAN IS DYING AT OUR OWN HANDS. Makes me ashamed to be human.



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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    because a great deal of people aren't worth 0.13 frickin cents.
    they're caught up in bullshit that truly means nothing.
    i am positive most people are uneducated about the earth.
    ask them to spell environment or ecosystem and they'll run, hiding.

    however, they can tell you who won the most recent American Idol.
    they can barely tell you about their new BMW sport utility vehicle.
    they do have a tv in every room of their house.
    every kid gets an iphone and some other stupid bullshit they do not need or deserve.
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  • KevinmanKevinman Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,917
    Or..........


    Maybe it's because it's nice to be able to talk about something positive once in a great while. Like Pearl Jam shows or PJ related topics. I do not like talking about negative topics or things that upset me all the time. It's nice to come on here and talk about something positive once in a while. This doesn't mean I don't know what kind of impact this is having on the planet that I reside on. It just means that I talk about it enough and it frustrates me beyond belief that it hasn't been stopped yet. I do not go to BP or Amoco gas stations. That is my small contribution to this fucked up situation. Better than doing nothing I guess.
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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
    This wasn't necessarily aimed at the ten club forums. I just mean, in general it is not as big of topic as it should be. It is huge. And I thought I would go to the moving train to see what everyone was saying about it...and it wasn't as big of a topic on here as I thought it would be either.

    Everyone should take 5 minutes to watch the live feed of the oil and think about what it is doing to our environment. It is like watching a holocaust.



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  • supersonicyearssupersonicyears Posts: 2,619
    I read something on FB today it said:
    So where are all the "Save the Gulf" concerts? Where are the T.V. Benefits with celebrities and musicians giving heart felt speeches on the poorfisherman, wildlife, beaches, loss of income and sabotaged gulfeconomy? I find it rather strange how these people (including our own government) are so quick to help Haiti and other countries...but sit on their butts for this one. Just the facts. Post if you agree

    We should be helping Haiti and other countries but I do agree with this. I know people will say that BP is supposed to be taking care of everything but they aren't doing enough and what they are doing isn't fast enough. Lots of living creatures are dying and people are losing their livelyhood.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    TheBeach wrote:
    I read something on FB today it said:
    So where are all the "Save the Gulf" concerts? Where are the T.V. Benefits with celebrities and musicians giving heart felt speeches on the poorfisherman, wildlife, beaches, loss of income and sabotaged gulfeconomy? I find it rather strange how these people (including our own government) are so quick to help Haiti and other countries...but sit on their butts for this one. Just the facts. Post if you agree

    We should be helping Haiti and other countries but I do agree with this. I know people will say that BP is supposed to be taking care of everything but they aren't doing enough and what they are doing isn't fast enough. Lots of living creatures are dying and people are losing their livelyhood.

    BP, Halliburton and the other companies involved
    all have 400 trillion X's as much money as the average citizen.
    our country... no, wait... the world, is in economic crisis.
    these cock suckers can pay and pay and pay before i give a fucking penny.
    who do we give money to?
    here take my $3.00 all the while you're holding multiple bank vaults filled with gold.

    the very elite wealthy have been fucking us over for thousands of years.
    i support bands like pearl jam and neil young because i feel they give a fuck... (and they do rock) :)
    if my health were better i would be scrubbing coral reefs and bathing marine animals 20 hours a day.
    benefit concerts are a fantastic idea.
    just remember who has fleets of oil vessels, oil refineries, and oil wells overflowing with money.

    this is killing.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

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  • nuffingmannuffingman Posts: 3,014
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    This wasn't necessarily aimed at the ten club forums. I just mean, in general it is not as big of topic as it should be. It is huge. And I thought I would go to the moving train to see what everyone was saying about it...and it wasn't as big of a topic on here as I thought it would be either.

    Everyone should take 5 minutes to watch the live feed of the oil and think about what it is doing to our environment. It is like watching a holocaust.
    We have it on the news every night and probably during the day.

    I think it was Chadwick that said most people are uneducated and I think there is some truth in that. The problem is (and this has been discussed in other threads) we are now drilling for oil in more unaccessible places. When there is a problem it's difficult to fix.

    We need to look at what we use and cut the need for so much oil. I've mentioned banning cars with poor consumption but that never gets the smallest response on here. Perhaps it's because there are a lot on here that complain about the oil spill but drive huge petrol guzzlers.

    We all need to make sacrifices to cure the problem but how many are willing to?
  • supersonicyearssupersonicyears Posts: 2,619
    chadwick wrote:
    TheBeach wrote:
    I read something on FB today it said:
    So where are all the "Save the Gulf" concerts? Where are the T.V. Benefits with celebrities and musicians giving heart felt speeches on the poorfisherman, wildlife, beaches, loss of income and sabotaged gulfeconomy? I find it rather strange how these people (including our own government) are so quick to help Haiti and other countries...but sit on their butts for this one. Just the facts. Post if you agree

    We should be helping Haiti and other countries but I do agree with this. I know people will say that BP is supposed to be taking care of everything but they aren't doing enough and what they are doing isn't fast enough. Lots of living creatures are dying and people are losing their livelyhood.

    BP, Halliburton and the other companies involved
    all have 400 trillion X's as much money as the average citizen.
    our country... no, wait... the world, is in economic crisis.
    these cock suckers can pay and pay and pay before i give a fucking penny.
    who do we give money to?
    here take my $3.00 all the while you're holding multiple bank vaults filled with gold.

    the very elite wealthy have been fucking us over for thousands of years.
    i support bands like pearl jam and neil young because i feel they give a fuck... (and they do rock) :)
    if my health were better i would be scrubbing coral reefs and bathing marine animals 20 hours a day.
    benefit concerts are a fantastic idea.
    just remember who has fleets of oil vessels, oil refineries, and oil wells overflowing with money.

    this is killing.
    I know what you're saying but normally the Entertainment industry is very vocal. Why nothing on this? BP should pay but how long do we wait?
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    want to be enlightened"
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    This wasn't necessarily aimed at the ten club forums. I just mean, in general it is not as big of topic as it should be. It is huge. And I thought I would go to the moving train to see what everyone was saying about it...and it wasn't as big of a topic on here as I thought it would be either.

    Everyone should take 5 minutes to watch the live feed of the oil and think about what it is doing to our environment. It is like watching a holocaust.

    Corey Lynn, where do you live? I was just thinking to myself yesterday about how much media attention the spill is getting outside of the gulf coast states. I see/hear about it nonstop everyday, but i'm in Florida.

    Also, it is heartbreaking and sad. I have made myself go to the beach as much asI can in the last few weeks just in case I can't enojy it like I used to. I don't know how bad it will get for local communities, and in addition, I was under the impression that BP was entitled to fix this. I don't know where the money would go if someone held a benefit concert. Maybe to coastal communities in louisiana and their workers who are having trouble?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    The story is constantly in the news in the Midwest and everyone I know is very concerned about the impact this is having on the environment.

    I think the biggest problem is no one can really help unless they possess technical knowledge of underwater drilling and geology. If there is an earthquake in Haiti, it's not too hard for John Travolta to fly a jumbo-jet full of goods to help out. There is not much that can be done individually to stop the leak, BUT there can be something done to help clean up the shorelines.

    In regards to donations and raising money, I'd rather see that BP pay for every cent of this cleanup as a result of their ongoing incompetence.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    TheBeach wrote:
    I know what you're saying but normally the Entertainment industry is very vocal. Why nothing on this? BP should pay but how long do we wait?

    i vote for neil & pearl jam being very vocal spokesmen.
    neil's so badass anyway, he'll whip ass just by looking at tony hayward.

    are the fishermen being paid now and for the next 50 years?
    it will take multiple generations to restore life to that area.
    the exxon valdez oil spill in alaska is still not fully recovered and it's been 21 years this past March.
    i read an articale the other day that said the fish are just now returning to price willaim sound.
    the gulf will be full of crude oil for a longtime and it's spreading across the globe.
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    "Hear me, my chiefs!
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    sick and sad. From where
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    no more forever."

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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
    Thank you for the discussions. I live in Michigan. My mom lives in Florida. It is on the news. I see it everyday. I see it on the web. But, what is concerning to me is the lack of communication about it that I see. I work in a hospital. It is a place that I would feel should be less self centered in the world. But, in talking to my co-workers, I realized that they are not educated on this and really could care less about it.
    I have been thinking a lot about what people could do as individuals,aside from helping with the clean up efforts, or donations. And I have realized that what I can do as an individual is get the word out there. People act shocked when they see the pictures or hear how detrimental this will be. If enough people are talking about this and angry about this..but, also vocal, then maybe someone will listen...maybe I am wrong.. all I see is a bunch of finger pointing, which I have done my share of too. But, as everyone is pointing fingers..the oil continues to gush, creatures continue to was up with the waves, and chemicals continue to poison our waters. I do not know the solution to this, or how feasible it is that it can be stopped, but, keeping quiet and turning a blind eye will surly keep all answers hidden.



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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
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    If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    The following link to (ducking) Fox's website includes links to different organizations that are helping fight the spill:
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/04/bp-oil-spill-aftermath-help/
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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
    I am not sure I trust anything on Fox



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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    I am not sure I trust anything on Fox
    Most of their stories posted are direct from the major news wires. Just avoid the editorials and you should be fine.

    It's at least worth checking out the links. Any other links would be appreciated.
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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
    Jason P wrote:
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    I am not sure I trust anything on Fox
    Most of their stories posted are direct from the major news wires. Just avoid the editorials and you should be fine.

    It's at least worth checking out the links. Any other links would be appreciated.


    Yeah. I guess all news is a pick and choose sort of thing. I have found that I trust the media way less since this started (not that I had much trust for them in the first place). I have new paranoid feelings that all is not well..an anxiety that has grown for me since the oil started spilling. My trust is wearing thin.



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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    I am not sure I trust anything on Fox
    Most of their stories posted are direct from the major news wires. Just avoid the editorials and you should be fine.

    It's at least worth checking out the links. Any other links would be appreciated.


    Yeah. I guess all news is a pick and choose sort of thing. I have found that I trust the media way less since this started (not that I had much trust for them in the first place). I have new paranoid feelings that all is not well..an anxiety that has grown for me since the oil started spilling. My trust is wearing thin.
    I know what you mean. When I was young, I assumed that all adults were smart. I now know otherwise, and unfortunately a lot of those people can cast their influence on the masses.

    That is why I spend most of my free time outside. Otherwise, my head might explode. :D
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    I am not sure I trust anything on Fox
    Most of their stories posted are direct from the major news wires. Just avoid the editorials and you should be fine.

    It's at least worth checking out the links. Any other links would be appreciated.


    Yeah. I guess all news is a pick and choose sort of thing. I have found that I trust the media way less since this started (not that I had much trust for them in the first place). I have new paranoid feelings that all is not well..an anxiety that has grown for me since the oil started spilling. My trust is wearing thin.
    i understand.
    i vote for going outside and having a glass of tea with lemon.
    be well.
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    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • this makes me incredibly sad.
    Corey Lynn wrote:
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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
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    A young heron sits dying amidst oil in Barataria Bay, just inside the
    the coast of Louisiana.



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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
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    If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
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    If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
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    If I knew where it was I would take you there. There's much more than this
  • runawayrunaway Posts: 427
    this makes me sick as well, the pictures are devestating....I posted a webaddress, have you seen this yet??
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    anyone know where to look for the records on marine species picked up dead or alive?
    like a list of sea turtles picked up dead... number & growing.
    where most of the turtles are being found?
    number of dolphins in critical condition?
    number of dead dolphins.
    they do keep record of this, yes/no?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
    runaway wrote:
    this makes me sick as well, the pictures are devestating....I posted a webaddress, have you seen this yet??

    I have not. What is it?



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  • runawayrunaway Posts: 427
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    runaway wrote:
    this makes me sick as well, the pictures are devestating....I posted a webaddress, have you seen this yet??

    I have not. What is it?


    these two guys put crude oil in water and use certain "grasses" that absorb the oil....they say that the ones with boats and nets could help clean up the soaked "grasses", you should watch it, I am curious your thoughts.
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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
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    Dead dolphin covered in oil



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  • Corey LynnCorey Lynn Posts: 681
    runaway wrote:
    Corey Lynn wrote:
    runaway wrote:
    this makes me sick as well, the pictures are devestating....I posted a webaddress, have you seen this yet??

    I have not. What is it?


    these two guys put crude oil in water and use certain "grasses" that absorb the oil....they say that the ones with boats and nets could help clean up the soaked "grasses", you should watch it, I am curious your thoughts.

    I have seen that. It looks like it would work on the surface oil. The problem that I see is that BP is using dispersants (poisonous toxins) to break the oil up into little pieces and to keep it from coming to the surface and I do not think that the hay would be able to get to it. It looks like it works great to get the surface oil though. I also wonder if sea life would be more likely to ingest the hay. ..but, it probably wouldn't be any more harmful for them than just being there in the tar pits.



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