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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    i hate to backtrack here, through the 'moon' and hitchcock discussions, back to the godfather trilogy. i really feel that the third installment, although nowhere near the benchmark set by the first two, is a great piece of cinema. yeah, i said it. the story is a solid one (despite the poorly executed love story between mary and vincent), and it provides a natural closure to the story of michael corleone. sure, one can rightfully rag on sofia coppola's extreme lack of acting talent, but her role is actually quite small. the negativity surrounding her poor skills is completely overblown, and she does not get that much screen time.

    although it's not perfect like its predecessors, the godfather, part iii is a great movie, and i can say without shame that i ranked it 9/10 on imdb.

    ...of course it woulda been a 10/10 had the whole "he's you're first cousin"/"then i'll love him first" dialogue never occurred.

    not gonna disagree...there's a lot to like about 3...but it really tried to cover too much...it should have focused on michael trying to become 'legit' and failing again in trying and having vincent take over...the mary subplot was terrible and soffia's 'acting' didn't help that at all
  • uninnocent-uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    yah that was my biggest complaint about the movie... was hoping for something more psychological... or atleast wait to diffuse the drama til the very last minute... dont give me an hour of knowing the ending

    yeah i agree, i was hoping for a more psychological conclusion, but that hope evaporated too early. despite the obvious end of the film i still found that it took me on an enjoyable ride.
  • uninnocent-uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    norm wrote:
    not gonna disagree...there's a lot to like about 3...but it really tried to cover too much...it should have focused on michael trying to become 'legit' and failing again in trying and having vincent take over...the mary subplot was terrible and soffia's 'acting' didn't help that at all

    personally i feel that they did succeed in showing that emerging from it clean, michael continually falls back into the pit his father dug. that is, of course, my opinion, and i'm not out to attempt to change anyone's minds on the third, so long as we can agree that the first two are cinematic masterpieces.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,275
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Flagg wrote:

    Is anyone else absolutely fucking sick of vampires by now. I mean, seriously?


    I'm sick of mountain goats, but we don't even have vampires in Idaho. Crazy Texans...

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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Flagg wrote:
    Would you look at that. A thread that started off with a ridiculous comparison turned into a legitimate film discussion.

    Bravo!!

    I might as well change the title of the thread
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess Posts: 7,305
    Newch91 wrote:
    Flagg wrote:
    Would you look at that. A thread that started off with a ridiculous comparison turned into a legitimate film discussion.

    Bravo!!

    I might as well change the title of the thread
    Here I was feeling a little embarrassed at helping to hijack the thread . . . . :oops:
    It's turned into an enjoyable discussion. :thumbup:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    We might as well throw in "Fight Club" into this discussion.
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    The Godfather pt 1 & 2 absolutely are that good.

    And while we're talking about the ground-breaking oldies, I have to give a shout out to Metropolis.... brilliant film.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    The Godfather pt 1 & 2 absolutely are that good.

    And while we're talking about the ground-breaking oldies, I have to give a shout out to Metropolis.... brilliant film.

    Watched Metropolis in film class in my first semester...fell right asleep.
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    Newch91 wrote:
    The Godfather pt 1 & 2 absolutely are that good.

    And while we're talking about the ground-breaking oldies, I have to give a shout out to Metropolis.... brilliant film.

    Watched Metropolis in film class in my first semester...fell right asleep.

    That's a shame..I saw it back after the restored version was released... only now looking it up, I came across the fact that they have found even more footage that was missing. I hope they release it on dvd soon.

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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    This sums up my feelings about Twilight and New Moon and all that BS pretty well:

    celebrity-pictures-count-von-count-sparkle-no.jpg

    As for classic movies, check out Buster Keaton. Never got the props like Chaplin did, but I prefer his work, had a surreal touch to it :)
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    This sums up my feelings about Twilight and New Moon and all that BS pretty well:

    celebrity-pictures-count-von-count-sparkle-no.jpg

    :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    As for classic movies, check out Buster Keaton. Never got the props like Chaplin did, but I prefer his work, had a surreal touch to it :)

    keaton was amazing :D
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    Funny pic!! LOL!!

    I have a list of classic movies that I have never seen and I am working my way through. Just got to Casablanca last week. Loved it. There was talk of remaking it a few years ago. Please God, no.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Flagg wrote:
    Funny pic!! LOL!!

    I have a list of classic movies that I have never seen and I am working my way through. Just got to Casablanca last week. Loved it. There was talk of remaking it a few years ago. Please God, no.

    Please don't. They're ruining The Karate Kid.
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  • chiquimonkeychiquimonkey Posts: 9,337
    norm wrote:
    keaton was amazing :D
    Amen! He was so ahead of his time. "Sherlock Jr." is one of my faves, the special effects he used were pretty radical for the time. Gotta love the Great Stone Face :)

    Casablanca is another great classic. So many good films from back in the day. I was watching To Have and Have Not on PBS the other night, what great chemistry Bogart and Bacall had!
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    The Apartment and Some Like It Hot. Billy Wilder classics.
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  • uninnocent-uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    Flagg wrote:
    Funny pic!! LOL!!

    I have a list of classic movies that I have never seen and I am working my way through. Just got to Casablanca last week. Loved it. There was talk of remaking it a few years ago. Please God, no.

    I too finally got around to watching it a few months back. It was more bad-ass than I would have expected from a film of that era. Easily one of my favorite movies of the let's-fuck-over-Nazis genre.
  • Digital TwilightDigital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Flagg wrote:
    Funny pic!! LOL!!

    I have a list of classic movies that I have never seen and I am working my way through. Just got to Casablanca last week. Loved it. There was talk of remaking it a few years ago. Please God, no.

    I haven't seen Casablance but i have seen a few others with Humprey Bogart in. Great actor who really commands the screen. 'In a Lonly Place' is a great example of this.
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Flagg wrote:
    Funny pic!! LOL!!

    I have a list of classic movies that I have never seen and I am working my way through. Just got to Casablanca last week. Loved it. There was talk of remaking it a few years ago. Please God, no.

    I too finally got around to watching it a few months back. It was more bad-ass than I would have expected from a film of that era. Easily one of my favorite movies of the let's-fuck-over-Nazis genre.
    naw... sound of music does it better... GO NUNS! :lol:
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  • uninnocent-uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    Flagg wrote:
    Funny pic!! LOL!!

    I have a list of classic movies that I have never seen and I am working my way through. Just got to Casablanca last week. Loved it. There was talk of remaking it a few years ago. Please God, no.

    I too finally got around to watching it a few months back. It was more bad-ass than I would have expected from a film of that era. Easily one of my favorite movies of the let's-fuck-over-Nazis genre.
    naw... sound of music does it better... GO NUNS! :lol:
    i haven't seen that one since i was real young, so i can't effectively dispute your claim
  • Who PrincessWho Princess Posts: 7,305
    Flagg wrote:
    Funny pic!! LOL!!

    I have a list of classic movies that I have never seen and I am working my way through. Just got to Casablanca last week. Loved it. There was talk of remaking it a few years ago. Please God, no.

    I too finally got around to watching it a few months back. It was more bad-ass than I would have expected from a film of that era. Easily one of my favorite movies of the let's-fuck-over-Nazis genre.
    I saw a program on PBS last year about some of the various Europeans involved in film making who fled the Nazis and came to work in Hollywood. Actors, directors, cameramen, many kinds of artisans. Most of them became U.S. citizens and helped many others immigrate before and during World War II. They had a huge impact on American cinema, particularly the ones who came from Germany where there was a thriving film industry before the Nazis came to power. The genre of film noir is considered a major contribution of the German directors who had worked in Expressionism.

    The reason I bring this up is the program highlighted the film Casablanca and the number of emigres who worked on the film. From Paul Henreid (who was a leading man in Europe) all the way down to bit parts, the movie has a huge international cast. For many of them who had been successful in their own countries, having work again and playing even a small role in a film about defying the Nazis was very meaningful. After seeing that program the next time I watch Casablanca I'll look at it with a new perspective.

    Also, the person who made the most successful transition to Hollywood was director Billy Wilder. When you watch some of his comedies it's hard to believe he isn't American.
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  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    I started a thread a while back about Citizen Kane and why I believe it's one of the greatest films ever made...
    http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=123690&hilit=citizen+kane
    Feel free to add on if you like.
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  • EnkiduEnkidu Posts: 2,996
    I started a thread a while back about Citizen Kane and why I believe it's one of the greatest films ever made...
    http://forums.pearljam.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=123690&hilit=citizen+kane
    Feel free to add on if you like.

    Amen to Citizen Kane. The best.

    Another great old one, it was on tonight - Best Years of Our Lives. The scene with Dana Andrews in the plane... if you've seen this movie, you'll know what I'm talking about.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    im sorry... what?????????????????????????????

    please catch me before i hit the floor laughing.

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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    im sorry... what?????????????????????????????

    please catch me before i hit the floor laughing.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    I'm guessing you read the first post...
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  • Brock SamsonBrock Samson Posts: 328
    had to have been written by someone born in the late 80's, early 90's. with someone that young, it doesn't surprise me that a movie that isn't full of special effects and blue screen (the godfather) doesn't appeal to them at all. sparkly vampires over brando...it's sad.
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