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PJ's Best Concert Elimination Tournament ?

merlin401merlin401 Posts: 230
edited May 2010 in The Porch
Since everyone always is engaging in these (mostly) friendly debates about which show is best... did anyone ever have the idea to create a field of 32 PJ shows and run a single-elimination tournament over a couple of weeks. Basically, you'd have two shows head-to-head in a tournament like March Madness. You could give the playlists to both, maybe some special thing they are known by. Anyone who was at one of the shows could weigh in (or at both and compare them). People would then vote for the winner. After a day or two of voting, winner moves to the sweet 16 (and so on) and loser goes home. Worthwhile summer time waster or no?

It doesn't seem like I have access to posting a poll... but I suppose this could be done manually as well.

If any interest is shown.. we'd just need a list of 32 which shouldn't be hard. There would be some grumbling about the bubble tournaments but the eventual winner won't be confused for #33 anyway so it should be all good.


OK CURRENT LIST OF 32

PinkPop '92
Atlanta '94
Boston III '94
Soldier Field '95
Red Rocks '95
Randalls Island '96
Melbourne, '98
MSG II '98
Katowice, Poland II '00
Seattle Key Arena '00
MSG I '03
State College '03
Spectrum '03
Mansfield III '03
Benaroya Hall '03
Mexico City III '03
Buffalo '03
Gorge '05
Borgata I '05
Wachovia '05
Newcastle, Aust. '06
Torino, Italy '06
Gorge I '06
Grand Rapids '06
San Diego '06
The Vic - Chicago '07
Denmark '07
Bonnaroo '08
Philly III '09
Philly IV '09
Boston '10
MSG II '10
Jones Beach II (2000), Holmdel (2003), Camden I, East Rutherford II, Gorge I, Gorge II (2006), MSG I, Boston II (2008), Spectrum II, Spectrum III, Spectrum IV (2009), MSG I, MSG II (2010), Prague (2012), Philly I (2013), Philly I, Philly II, Fenway I (2016), Fenway I (2018), MSG (2022), MSG I, Fenway 1 (2024)
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    please include Philly 10/30/2009 & 10/31/2009 as well as Bonnaroo
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Msg 2 2010, wachovia 05, the vic, east ruth 2 06,gorge 05
    Go Birds!!!!
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    Randall's Island '96
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • FrankieGFrankieG Posts: 9,100
    1. Philly 10/30/2009
    2. Philly 10/31/2009
    3. Bonnaroo
    4. Msg 2 2010
    5. Wachovia 05
    6. The Vic
    7. East Ruth 2 6/3/06
    8. Gorge 05
    9. Randall's Island '96
    10. MSG 1 2003
    11.
    12.
    13.
    14.
    15.
    ....
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA
    2022: 9/14 NJ ... 2024: 5/28 WA, 9/7 PA, 9/9 PA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
  • Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    Boston '10.. Hartford 08
    I will be what i could be
    Once I get out of this town


    9/29/04;6/27/08;6/30/08;8/23/09;08/24/09;5/17/10
  • NeilJamNeilJam Posts: 1,191
    You have to include State College and Toledo 2004 with Neil.
  • hinsey21hinsey21 Posts: 583
    buffalo 03
    hartford 08
  • Dirty TomDirty Tom Posts: 883
    You HAVE to include the incredible show in Grand Rapids, Michigan 06!!
    http://www.fancorps.com/wishlistfoundation/view/25753|187003.jpg


    "This is the greatest band in the world"---Ben Harper

  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,589
    Atlanta 2 1994. No contest!
    I will swallow poison
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    we are going to need links to boots on the list. you shouldn't be able to vote unless you were there or have heard the boot
    81 is now off the air

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  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    I think you need to include Montreal 05 as the JOhnny Ramone Tribute show... and maybe London 09. LA 4 09 too
    Out of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Seattle 2
    Bonnaroo
    Randall's Island
    both MSG's in 03
    Boston 3
    Philly IV
    Buffalo 03
    HoB Chicago
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    81 wrote:
    we are going to need links to boots on the list. you shouldn't be able to vote unless you were there or have heard the boot
    Better yet - you shouldn't be allowed to vote on shows you've been to.. people tend to have a bias towards those shows.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    Mansfield 03' too you know The Experiement

    Seattle 2000 is a must on the list as well
    MSG II 98 and MSG I 03
    Boston 10'
    Copenhagen 07'
    Newcastle Australia 06' should be on there hands down
    Out of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!
  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    don't forget Benny Hall
    Out of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!
  • rival.rival. Posts: 7,775
    do not let this show fall under the radar:

    06/16/00 - Spodek: Katowice, Poland

    easily top 2 or 3 shows of the entire 2000 tour.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Any show where you can just say the city and which night of the stand if it applies. Of course MSG is the one venue that really doesn't work for.
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    benjs wrote:
    81 wrote:
    we are going to need links to boots on the list. you shouldn't be able to vote unless you were there or have heard the boot
    Better yet - you shouldn't be allowed to vote on shows you've been to.. people tend to have a bias towards those shows.

    i would hate to be excluded from voting for one of my great shows. maybe we should use a 10 point scale when two shows go head to head. you give it a score and state if you attended. if you attneded, your score is reduced by 1 or 2 points.
    81 is now off the air

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  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    singularity wrote:
    do not let this show fall under the radar:

    06/16/00 - Spodek: Katowice, Poland

    easily top 2 or 3 shows of the entire 2000 tour.


    hands down
    Out of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Oxxys wrote:
    don't forget Benny Hall

    Plz do. Sloppy show...Rare vinyl doesn't make a spectacular show.
  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    DewieCox wrote:
    Oxxys wrote:
    don't forget Benny Hall

    Plz do. Sloppy show...Rare vinyl doesn't make a spectacular show.


    The Setlist is sick.....and it sounds great on CD. Fatal, 25 Minutes to Go, Nothing As It Seems, I could go on....
    Out of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!
  • InHiding19InHiding19 Posts: 2,385
    Oxxys wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Oxxys wrote:
    don't forget Benny Hall

    Plz do. Sloppy show...Rare vinyl doesn't make a spectacular show.


    The Setlist is sick.....and it sounds great on CD. Fatal, 25 Minutes to Go, Nothing As It Seems, I could go on....


    Was that the only 25 Minutes to Go ever??? I would kill to hear that.
    Out of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    Oxxys wrote:
    DewieCox wrote:
    Oxxys wrote:
    don't forget Benny Hall

    Plz do. Sloppy show...Rare vinyl doesn't make a spectacular show.


    The Setlist is sick.....and it sounds great on CD. Fatal, 25 Minutes to Go, Nothing As It Seems, I could go on....

    nor does a setlist
  • ponner1usponner1us Posts: 738
    I'll never understand why Borgata 1 is never mentioned in these lists. Small "club" feeling, great setlist, great energy, great crowd!

    BORGATA 1
    Journey Begins: 1992-08-15, Montage Mountain Performing Arts Center,
    Scranton, Pennsylvania

    Journey Ends:
  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,589
    edited May 2010
    Oxxys wrote:


    Was that the only 25 Minutes to Go ever??? I would kill to hear that.

    They played it a handful of times that autumn.

    Anyway, I think when voting the best you have to nominate the shows everyone knows. I nominted atlanta 1994 beause I cannot see any other show & recording that has done more to the pj universe. It has spread so much love and been such a staple in the pj live category for so many years.. It is absolutely worthy a title such as this.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,099
    81 wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    81 wrote:
    we are going to need links to boots on the list. you shouldn't be able to vote unless you were there or have heard the boot
    Better yet - you shouldn't be allowed to vote on shows you've been to.. people tend to have a bias towards those shows.

    i would hate to be excluded from voting for one of my great shows. maybe we should use a 10 point scale when two shows go head to head. you give it a score and state if you attended. if you attneded, your score is reduced by 1 or 2 points.
    That makes sense to me.. I'm not the OP, who am I to make rules anyways :lol:
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
  • FastrichieFastrichie Posts: 917
    Soldier Field 95
    04/06/94 Springfield, 04/17/94 NYC, 10/02/96 Hartford, 11/14/97 Oakland, 09/08/98 NJ, 09/10/98 MSG, 09/11/98 MSG, 09/13/98 Hartford, 08/24/00 Jones Beach, 08/25/00 Jones Beach 04/30/03 Uniondale, 07/08/03 MSG, 07/09/03 MSG, 09/28/04 Boston, 10/01/05 Borgata, 10/03/05 Philly, 05/13/06 Hartford 05/25/06 Boston, 06/01/06 NJ, 06/03/06 NJ, 08/05/07 Chicago, 06/24/08 MSG, 06/25/08 MSG, 06/27/08 Hartford, 06/30/08 Mansfield, 07/01/08 The Beacon, 08/21/09 Toronto, 10/27/09 Philly, 10/28/09 Philly, 10/30/09 Philly, 10/31/09 Philly, 05/15/2010 Hartford, 05/17/2010 Boston, 05/20/2010 MSG, 05/21/2010 MSG, Montreal 09/07/2011, Philly 09/01/2012, Wrigley 07/19-20,2013, Worcester 10/16/13, Brooklyn 10/18, Brooklyn 10/19/13, Hartford 10/25/13, Ed Sullivan 09/23/2015, Central Park 09/26/2015 Philly 04/29/2016. MSG 05/01/2016, MSG 05/02/2016, Fenway 08/05/2016, Fenway 08/07/2016, Brooklyn 04/07/2017, Seattle 08/08/2018, Seattle 08/10/2018, Chicago 08/20/2018, Fenway 09/02/2018, Fenway 09/04/2018, Asbury Park 09/18/2021, Apollo Theater 09/10/2022, MSG 09/11/2022, Camden 09/14/2022


  • let the song protestlet the song protest Posts: 200
    The following should be high seeds in this tournament:

    Soldier Field 95
    MSG 2010 (night 2)
    Atlanta 94 (night 2)
    Seattle 2000 (final night of that tour)
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,772
    Niko80 wrote:
    Atlanta 2 1994. No contest!

    Without a doubt, Atlanta 2 in 1994 should be in it. So should the Randall's Island(#2 i assume?) show mentioned in 1996.

    Here's some suggestions:

    1992-June 18-Zurich
    1993-Oct. 28-San Francisco
    1995-Feb. 21-Osaka, Japan

    I"ll have to go and listen to some boots from 1998, to try and add one from that year. Also with the 2000's, as its been awhile since i've listen to those, except the 09' tour. Here's some from 09' :

    2009-Oct. 30-Philly-3
    2009-Oct. 31-Philly-4
    2009-Oct. 7-L.A.-4
    2009-Nov. 20-Melbourne

    And how about Boston 2010? I wasn't there so i guess i should wait to hear the boot, but its looks Great on PAPER.

    Thanks for giving me a reason to listen to some more boots.
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,772
    81 wrote:
    we are going to need links to boots on the list. you shouldn't be able to vote unless you were there or have heard the boot


    This makes ALOT of sense to me "81".
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