ny post trashes pj

MoonTurtle

I felt the sound was horrible in NJ. MSG 1 had great sound.

Hamson wrote:

I went to MSG 2 and the show was great! Great setlist and great energy but sadly I have to agree that the acoustics SUCKED! I could hardly hear any vocals from section 124. It was my 6th show and the sound was not good at all. I'm surprised no one else feels this way!

MANKIND

if u want to see pj on a screen, watch the dvds at home

CROJAM95

I agree with the post....... Where was the giant falice on stage, or the pyro show, or the midgets

WTF

I want my money back

SoonForgotten2

People here are hilarious. I don't see where this review slagged off Pearl Jam or their actual performance.

I think most bands manage to have some kind of video screen when they play arenas. Pearl Jam is just one that doesn't so really, I can understand that complaint. I'm sure a lot of casual fans want to see as much as hear.

As for the sound, someone here posted how PJ was really unhappy about it before the gig and had to pay in order to try to sort it out during the "dark" hour between 6 and 7pm. Perhaps they couldn't get it right in time.

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.

HollisBrown

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.

My problem is with the Donkey from Down under. Murdoch was one of those who petitioned our FCC to change it's ruling regarding cross ownership of media outlets, i.e. radio, TV, newspapers. Because of the amount of money the right has to spend, they've been able to buy up a great deal of media outlets in this country and temper the opposition of the right wing machine. I'm not saying that the post was ever a Pulitzer prize candidate for it's writing. But since Murdoch has acquired so many TV stations and newspapers, we the American public have been less informed regarding the opposition to most of what the republicans stand for. Even the Wall Street Journal, which was supposed to have independence in it's opinions has been negatively manipulated.

Ledbetterman10

well they more than made up for it with Friday's show

SoonForgotten2

HollisBrown wrote:

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.

My problem is with the Donkey from Down under. Murdoch was one of those who petitioned our FCC to change it's ruling regarding cross ownership of media outlets, i.e. radio, TV, newspapers. Because of the amount of money the right has to spend, they've been able to buy up a great deal of media outlets in this country and temper the opposition of the right wing machine. I'm not saying that the post was ever a Pulitzer prize candidate for it's writing. But since Murdoch has acquired so many TV stations and newspapers, we the American public have been less informed regarding the opposition to most of what the republicans stand for. Even the Wall Street Journal, which was supposed to have independence in it's opinions has been negatively manipulated.

Yes the NY Post exists and is owned by Rupert Murdoch, but I thought the thread was about the review and the contents of said review.

josevolution

I don't mind the review that is hi's perspective it bares nothing on my feelings for the best band on the planet ,i wouldn't read the post if it was the only paper in town it's garbage at best ...

HollisBrown

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

HollisBrown wrote:

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.

My problem is with the Donkey from Down under. Murdoch was one of those who petitioned our FCC to change it's ruling regarding cross ownership of media outlets, i.e. radio, TV, newspapers. Because of the amount of money the right has to spend, they've been able to buy up a great deal of media outlets in this country and temper the opposition of the right wing machine. I'm not saying that the post was ever a Pulitzer prize candidate for it's writing. But since Murdoch has acquired so many TV stations and newspapers, we the American public have been less informed regarding the opposition to most of what the republicans stand for. Even the Wall Street Journal, which was supposed to have independence in it's opinions has been negatively manipulated.

Yes the NY Post exists and is owned by Rupert Murdoch, but I thought the thread was about the review and the contents of said review.

Quite right. Just a little background on the publication. That's all.

Bathgate66

demetrios wrote:

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/band_mumbles_vedder_left_unsaid_4Z4QeyyMENAv0zu4hrRaPN

Limp show could have been Vedder

Had Pearl Jam played Thursday's Madison Square Garden concert at a smaller hall, the band's energy -- and the dynamic stage presence of frontman Eddie Vedder -- might have saved the day. But they played the arena as if it were a club -- and the fans who filled the Garden paid the price.

First, there was no video projection system. From the back wall of the Garden to the lip of the stage, it's almost a quarter-mile, so the majority of the audience was denied any real visual detail. Did Vedder contort his kisser into the ugly face when he sang "Severed Hand" early in the set? You'd have to ask somebody who sat up front; even the eagle-eyed would have a hard time confirming it was actually Vedder up there.



"Eddie Vedder didn't speak up for Pearl Jam!"

The band's sound system was another problem. The acoustics weren't just a little muddy, they were the Mississippi. Lyrics were mostly indiscernible during the set, which ran for more than 30 songs.

It wasn't so bad on tunes such as "Jeremy" and "Leash," two of the band's best-known numbers. On those, what we couldn't hear with our ears we heard in our heads. But on the less familiar, deep-vault cuts, Vedder's lyrics were little more than garbled jibber-jabber, more noise than poetry.

Other than the shirtless, drunk, fat guy in my far-back section who broke a seat by jumping on it, the fan reaction cooled the farther you were from the stage.

The exceptions came during the night's two brightest songs: a cover of The Who's "Love Reign O'er Me" and Pearl Jam's own anthem "Alive," which was played in the show's last breaths. These two songs illustrated why Pearl Jam still matters -- but for the most part, Pearl Jam and Vedder coulda been better.

:shock:

Dan Aquialante is usually right on, however I have to whole heartedly disagree with him on thius one !
He lives closeby me in the boro of Queens- i will now go toiletpaper his house.

:problem:

HollisBrown

Bathgate66 wrote:

He lives closeby me in the boro of Queens- i will now go toiletpaper his house.

:problem:

With editions of the NYPOST, I hope.

Come Back in Black

The post is right. The sound on thursday fucking sucked. I was towards the back of section 11 on the risers. I was expecting good sound. I had almost identical seats in 08 in the back of section 10. It was a night and day difference. The vocals were so low and imposible to understand. I couldn't believe it.

I was in dection 96 on friday and it was a little better. The vocals were louder but very muddy. Even when there was no music playing and eddie was "talking" you couldn't really understand everything he said. You kind of had to guess.

It was a joke. I think they should fire their sound people. I actually brought 3 non pearl jam fans to the show on friday night. They weren't impressed. They were impressed with the crowd but not the fucking music which is why we are all there ... right?

timc

demetrios wrote:

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/band_mumbles_vedder_left_unsaid_4Z4QeyyMENAv0zu4hrRaPN

Limp show could have been Vedder

Had Pearl Jam played Thursday's Madison Square Garden concert at a smaller hall, the band's energy -- and the dynamic stage presence of frontman Eddie Vedder -- might have saved the day. But they played the arena as if it were a club -- and the fans who filled the Garden paid the price.

First, there was no video projection system. From the back wall of the Garden to the lip of the stage, it's almost a quarter-mile, so the majority of the audience was denied any real visual detail. Did Vedder contort his kisser into the ugly face when he sang "Severed Hand" early in the set? You'd have to ask somebody who sat up front; even the eagle-eyed would have a hard time confirming it was actually Vedder up there.



"Eddie Vedder didn't speak up for Pearl Jam!"

The band's sound system was another problem. The acoustics weren't just a little muddy, they were the Mississippi. Lyrics were mostly indiscernible during the set, which ran for more than 30 songs.

It wasn't so bad on tunes such as "Jeremy" and "Leash," two of the band's best-known numbers. On those, what we couldn't hear with our ears we heard in our heads. But on the less familiar, deep-vault cuts, Vedder's lyrics were little more than garbled jibber-jabber, more noise than poetry.

Other than the shirtless, drunk, fat guy in my far-back section who broke a seat by jumping on it, the fan reaction cooled the farther you were from the stage.

The exceptions came during the night's two brightest songs: a cover of The Who's "Love Reign O'er Me" and Pearl Jam's own anthem "Alive," which was played in the show's last breaths. These two songs illustrated why Pearl Jam still matters -- but for the most part, Pearl Jam and Vedder coulda been better.

:shock:

that is why I keep emailing 10 C to hire my uncle he has been in the BIZ a long time! Plus all goodies I might get

http://www.totaldanger.com/td_pages/res ... esume.html

in eds tree

Hamson wrote:

I went to MSG 2 and the show was great! Great setlist and great energy but sadly I have to agree that the acoustics SUCKED! I could hardly hear any vocals from section 124. It was my 6th show and the sound was not good at all. I'm surprised no one else feels this way!

really? i was in section 124 as well and i didn't have any problem with the sound.

stranger34

Dan Aquilante, the reviewer loves Pearl Jam you fools. It's amazing how anytime anyone doesn't fawn over this band people get upset.

I've followed his column for years, you should see his review of PJ in 03 - it was glowing and hes been holdng PJ up as the live standard bearers for years.

I felt very smilarly about the show, it was a dud until the encores which couldn't save a show that was in its last breaths.

stranger34

And the sound was muddled both nights. Its not the venue, csuse i've heard some crystal clear shows there from the 400s. its prob not easy to pull off their sound because the crowd noise is so high.

SoonForgotten2

stranger34 wrote:

Dan Aquilante, the reviewer loves Pearl Jam you fools. It's amazing how anytime anyone doesn't fawn over this band people get upset.

I've followed his column for years, you should see his review of PJ in 03 - it was glowing and hes been holdng PJ up as the live standard bearers for years.

I felt very smilarly about the show, it was a dud until the encores which couldn't save a show that was in its last breaths.

Yeah, but Rupert Murdoch right-wing conspiracy lunacy everyone's out to get Pearl Jam!

HollisBrown

Here's a review by the pinko NYTIMES writer.
Music Review
A Solid Rock of the Ages, Mixing New and Vintage
By NATE CHINEN
Published: May 21, 2010

Pearl Jam began its first encore at Madison Square Garden on Thursday night with a portrait of ailment, fraught with emotion. Eddie Vedder, the band’s lead singer, returned alone to the stage, where a string quartet had assembled. “This is one of the sadder songs we know,” he said, referring to “The End,” from “Backspacer” (Monkeywrench), Pearl Jam’s most recent album. Finger-picking an acoustic guitar, he sang the song’s first line in a tentative quaver: “What were all those dreams we shared those many years ago?”


These lyrics assumed an outside perspective — that of a dying man addressing his wife — but they also functioned as rock rhetoric, a question of mileage shared with fans. As if to acknowledge that bond, Mr. Vedder and company generously stocked the rest of the show with vintage songs, including five from their 1991 debut, “Ten.” They all landed proud, stretched out and revved up, the furthest thing from sickly or faltering.

Pearl Jam hasn’t budged over the years, unlike most of its old contemporaries. Lately the reunion trail is crowded with grunge or proto-grunge bands, from Alice in Chains and Jane’s Addiction to Stone Temple Pilots, which has a new album coming out on Tuesday. Last month Soundgarden played its first show since 1997, in advance of a headlining slot at Lollapalooza. Meanwhile the Pearl Jam lineup has been doggedly consistent, with Mr. Vedder, Mike McCready and Stone Gossard on guitars, Jeff Ament on bass and Matt Cameron, the only non-original member, on drums. (Mr. Cameron, who came to Pearl Jam from the rubble of Soundgarden, is going to have a busy summer.)

Longevity can be a mixed blessing for a rock band, but Pearl Jam has endured the rough patches, hardening its sound but not its approach, and widening its scope. Punk and garage-rock are two subtexts of “Backspacer,” as they were in hardy stretches of the show. There were also nods to formative powers: “I Got Id,” from a collaboration with Neil Young, and one song apiece by the Who and the Ramones. (There was also a customary Victoria Williams cover, featuring the band’s touring keyboardist, Boom Gaspar.)

Ever the conscientious frontman, Mr. Vedder worked hard to maintain a sense of connection both onstage and out in the room. His barrel-chested baritone still radiates masculine sincerity, along with the traces of self-doubt or indignation that his songs often require. He can be moralistic, but here he held back, letting those songs do the work.

Two from the new album felt emblematic: “The Fixer,” a hard-rock stomper about his endless good intentions, and “Just Breathe,” a ballad of gratitude and renewed devotion. “Just Breathe” opens and closes with an intimation of mortality, and in that sense it’s a complement to “The End,” which concludes with the line “I’m here — but not much longer.”

Mr. Vedder savored the cheers for each song, but he also made sure to provide a rejoinder near the show’s end, with an extravagantly raging version of “Alive,” from “Ten.” The chorus of that tune, like the title, is a simple but vital declaration — an insistence, really — and the arena roared its fist-pumping assent.

Pearl Jam’s European tour starts on June 22; pearljam.com/tour.
A version of this review appeared in print on May 22, 2010, on page C5 of the New York edition.

BinauralJam

LoveBoatAdmiral wrote:

It sounds like he was pissed his seats sucked more than that it was a bad show...

Yup

Pats54

HollisBrown wrote:

SoonForgotten2 wrote:

Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.

My problem is with the Donkey from Down under. Murdoch was one of those who petitioned our FCC to change it's ruling regarding cross ownership of media outlets, i.e. radio, TV, newspapers. Because of the amount of money the right has to spend, they've been able to buy up a great deal of media outlets in this country and temper the opposition of the right wing machine. I'm not saying that the post was ever a Pulitzer prize candidate for it's writing. But since Murdoch has acquired so many TV stations and newspapers, we the American public have been less informed regarding the opposition to most of what the republicans stand for. Even the Wall Street Journal, which was supposed to have independence in it's opinions has been negatively manipulated.

Here we go too funny. Shouldn't this be in moving train. I am sure RM called his music editors and told them to be sure to trash the Big Evil PJ. LMAO!!! One Guys opinion you need to relax dude and not find a conspiracy in everything too funny.