ny post trashes pj

gundagunda Posts: 97
edited May 2010 in The Porch
in todays ny post theres a review of bad thursdays msg show was. dont know how to post link but i assume nypost.com entertainment
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 91,351
    edited May 2010
    http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/m ... 0zu4hrRaPN

    Limp show could have been Vedder

    Had Pearl Jam played Thursday's Madison Square Garden concert at a smaller hall, the band's energy -- and the dynamic stage presence of frontman Eddie Vedder -- might have saved the day. But they played the arena as if it were a club -- and the fans who filled the Garden paid the price.

    First, there was no video projection system. From the back wall of the Garden to the lip of the stage, it's almost a quarter-mile, so the majority of the audience was denied any real visual detail. Did Vedder contort his kisser into the ugly face when he sang "Severed Hand" early in the set? You'd have to ask somebody who sat up front; even the eagle-eyed would have a hard time confirming it was actually Vedder up there.

    eddie_vedder--300x450.jpg

    "Eddie Vedder didn't speak up for Pearl Jam!"

    The band's sound system was another problem. The acoustics weren't just a little muddy, they were the Mississippi. Lyrics were mostly indiscernible during the set, which ran for more than 30 songs.

    It wasn't so bad on tunes such as "Jeremy" and "Leash," two of the band's best-known numbers. On those, what we couldn't hear with our ears we heard in our heads. But on the less familiar, deep-vault cuts, Vedder's lyrics were little more than garbled jibber-jabber, more noise than poetry.

    Other than the shirtless, drunk, fat guy in my far-back section who broke a seat by jumping on it, the fan reaction cooled the farther you were from the stage.

    The exceptions came during the night's two brightest songs: a cover of The Who's "Love Reign O'er Me" and Pearl Jam's own anthem "Alive," which was played in the show's last breaths. These two songs illustrated why Pearl Jam still matters -- but for the most part, Pearl Jam and Vedder coulda been better.

    :shock:
  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    edited May 2010
    gunda wrote:
    in todays ny post theres a review of bad thursdays msg show was. dont know how to post link but i assume nypost.com entertainment
    NYPOST BLOWS. Right wing propaganda brought to you by Rupert Murdoch on behalf of his fascist scumbag cronies.
    Post edited by HollisBrown on
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  • dreamweaverdreamweaver Posts: 716
    I actually don't like projection screens at shows, takes away from the stage.
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  • DragonsAfter3or4DragonsAfter3or4 Bluegrass Posts: 332
    gunda wrote:
    in todays ny post theres a review of bad thursdays msg show was. dont know how to post link but i assume nypost.com entertainment
    NYPOST BLOWS. Right wing propaganda brought to you by Rupert Murdoch and his fascist scumbag cronies.

    Now I have officially read it all!!!!!! Now the right wing has it out for PJ when writing a review. HAHA> NICE! :roll:
  • BraceYourSelfBraceYourSelf Posts: 814
    I do agree with the video projection system. They could of used the scoreboard. However, everything else is garbage.
  • gundagunda Posts: 97
    edited May 2010
    thanks guys for the help people.and this was the only paper left this morning dont usally buy it
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  • PJ5a1PJ5a1 Oceanside, NY Posts: 446
    The ny post blows seriously. These writers have no talent whatsoever. This guy should write for the dick lickers society as that is what he is...a dick licker.
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  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    gunda wrote:
    in todays ny post theres a review of bad thursdays msg show was. dont know how to post link but i assume nypost.com entertainment
    NYPOST BLOWS. Right wing propaganda brought to you by Rupert Murdoch and his fascist scumbag cronies.

    Now I have officially read it all!!!!!! Now the right wing has it out for PJ when writing a review. HAHA> NICE! :roll:
    If you're familiar with Murdoch you'll catch my drift. ;)
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  • hopethatuchokehopethatuchoke Posts: 2,927
    gunda wrote:
    in todays ny post theres a review of bad thursdays msg show was. dont know how to post link but i assume nypost.com entertainment
    NYPOST BLOWS. Right wing propaganda brought to you by Rupert Murdoch on behalf of his fascist scumbag cronies.


    What does that have to do with Pearl Jam?


    And god forbid someone didn't enjoy the show. Now they, and their publication, are suddenly absolute garbage :lol: I love watching people get worked up around here.
  • youngsteryoungster Posts: 6,576
    PJ5a1 wrote:
    The ny post blows seriously. These writers have no talent whatsoever. This guy should write for the dick lickers society as that is what he is...a dick licker.

    While that is your opinion, something tells me if this writer praised the show and had great things to say your above post would never have been written.
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  • DragonsAfter3or4DragonsAfter3or4 Bluegrass Posts: 332
    youngster wrote:
    PJ5a1 wrote:
    The ny post blows seriously. These writers have no talent whatsoever. This guy should write for the dick lickers society as that is what he is...a dick licker.

    While that is your opinion, something tells me if this writer praised the show and had great things to say your above post would never have been written.


    Correct. If it were a great review, all would be good. It's hilarious to see some on here get so bent out of shape and actually furious when somebody's opinion was not favorable of PJ. It's like the end of the world to em. hehehe :lol:
  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    gunda wrote:
    in todays ny post theres a review of bad thursdays msg show was. dont know how to post link but i assume nypost.com entertainment
    NYPOST BLOWS. Right wing propaganda brought to you by Rupert Murdoch on behalf of his fascist scumbag cronies.


    What does that have to do with Pearl Jam?


    And god forbid someone didn't enjoy the show. Now they, and their publication, are suddenly absolute garbage :lol: I love watching people get worked up around here.
    Actually, nothing. I merely stated what political faction the NYPOST subscribes. You know, like the pinko socialists/communists who reside at the NYTIMES.
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  • PakaPaka Posts: 471
    i respect the freedom of opinion..

    ...but still - :lol: - what a fuckin jerk this is
  • LoveBoatAdmiralLoveBoatAdmiral Posts: 1,191
    It sounds like he was pissed his seats sucked more than that it was a bad show...
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  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    It sounds like he was pissed his seats sucked more than that it was a bad show...
    :lol:
    Yeah. the writer for The Nation probably got a backstage pass and was able to roam freely.
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  • YoullseeDragonsYoullseeDragons Posts: 2,144
    Who's opinion do you think matters most to the band, a reporter that has a JOB to write about entertainment or a fan that post his/her "fan view" about a show performed by their favorite band. You don't like to see bad reviews about your efforts, no matter what they are. But I bet the band would prefer bad review from the NY Post over a bad review from an entire fan base. Consider the source, I had a blast!!!! :D:D
  • HamsonHamson Posts: 44
    I went to MSG 2 and the show was great! Great setlist and great energy but sadly I have to agree that the acoustics SUCKED! I could hardly hear any vocals from section 124. It was my 6th show and the sound was not good at all. I'm surprised no one else feels this way!
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  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    edited May 2010
    Public Enemy said it best....

    Here`s a letter to the New York Post
    The worst piece of paper on the east coast
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    in New York City fifty cents elsewhere
    It makes no goddamn sense at all
    America`s oldest continuously published daily piece of bullshit
    Hail, Hail Another fan gets it.
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  • MoonTurtleMoonTurtle Posts: 752
    I felt the sound was horrible in NJ. MSG 1 had great sound.
    Hamson wrote:
    I went to MSG 2 and the show was great! Great setlist and great energy but sadly I have to agree that the acoustics SUCKED! I could hardly hear any vocals from section 124. It was my 6th show and the sound was not good at all. I'm surprised no one else feels this way!
  • MANKINDMANKIND Posts: 218
    if u want to see pj on a screen, watch the dvds at home
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,788
    I agree with the post....... Where was the giant falice on stage, or the pyro show, or the midgets

    WTF

    I want my money back
  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    People here are hilarious. I don't see where this review slagged off Pearl Jam or their actual performance.

    I think most bands manage to have some kind of video screen when they play arenas. Pearl Jam is just one that doesn't so really, I can understand that complaint. I'm sure a lot of casual fans want to see as much as hear.

    As for the sound, someone here posted how PJ was really unhappy about it before the gig and had to pay in order to try to sort it out during the "dark" hour between 6 and 7pm. Perhaps they couldn't get it right in time.

    Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.
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  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.
    My problem is with the Donkey from Down under. Murdoch was one of those who petitioned our FCC to change it's ruling regarding cross ownership of media outlets, i.e. radio, TV, newspapers. Because of the amount of money the right has to spend, they've been able to buy up a great deal of media outlets in this country and temper the opposition of the right wing machine. I'm not saying that the post was ever a Pulitzer prize candidate for it's writing. But since Murdoch has acquired so many TV stations and newspapers, we the American public have been less informed regarding the opposition to most of what the republicans stand for. Even the Wall Street Journal, which was supposed to have independence in it's opinions has been negatively manipulated.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    well they more than made up for it with Friday's show
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  • SoonForgotten2SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.
    My problem is with the Donkey from Down under. Murdoch was one of those who petitioned our FCC to change it's ruling regarding cross ownership of media outlets, i.e. radio, TV, newspapers. Because of the amount of money the right has to spend, they've been able to buy up a great deal of media outlets in this country and temper the opposition of the right wing machine. I'm not saying that the post was ever a Pulitzer prize candidate for it's writing. But since Murdoch has acquired so many TV stations and newspapers, we the American public have been less informed regarding the opposition to most of what the republicans stand for. Even the Wall Street Journal, which was supposed to have independence in it's opinions has been negatively manipulated.

    Yes the NY Post exists and is owned by Rupert Murdoch, but I thought the thread was about the review and the contents of said review.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,217
    I don't mind the review that is hi's perspective it bares nothing on my feelings for the best band on the planet ,i wouldn't read the post if it was the only paper in town it's garbage at best ...
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  • HollisBrownHollisBrown Posts: 4,325
    Honestly, I don't see what the problem is here.
    My problem is with the Donkey from Down under. Murdoch was one of those who petitioned our FCC to change it's ruling regarding cross ownership of media outlets, i.e. radio, TV, newspapers. Because of the amount of money the right has to spend, they've been able to buy up a great deal of media outlets in this country and temper the opposition of the right wing machine. I'm not saying that the post was ever a Pulitzer prize candidate for it's writing. But since Murdoch has acquired so many TV stations and newspapers, we the American public have been less informed regarding the opposition to most of what the republicans stand for. Even the Wall Street Journal, which was supposed to have independence in it's opinions has been negatively manipulated.

    Yes the NY Post exists and is owned by Rupert Murdoch, but I thought the thread was about the review and the contents of said review.
    Quite right. Just a little background on the publication. That's all.
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  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    demetrios wrote:
    http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/band_mumbles_vedder_left_unsaid_4Z4QeyyMENAv0zu4hrRaPN

    Limp show could have been Vedder

    Had Pearl Jam played Thursday's Madison Square Garden concert at a smaller hall, the band's energy -- and the dynamic stage presence of frontman Eddie Vedder -- might have saved the day. But they played the arena as if it were a club -- and the fans who filled the Garden paid the price.

    First, there was no video projection system. From the back wall of the Garden to the lip of the stage, it's almost a quarter-mile, so the majority of the audience was denied any real visual detail. Did Vedder contort his kisser into the ugly face when he sang "Severed Hand" early in the set? You'd have to ask somebody who sat up front; even the eagle-eyed would have a hard time confirming it was actually Vedder up there.

    eddie_vedder--300x450.jpg

    "Eddie Vedder didn't speak up for Pearl Jam!"

    The band's sound system was another problem. The acoustics weren't just a little muddy, they were the Mississippi. Lyrics were mostly indiscernible during the set, which ran for more than 30 songs.

    It wasn't so bad on tunes such as "Jeremy" and "Leash," two of the band's best-known numbers. On those, what we couldn't hear with our ears we heard in our heads. But on the less familiar, deep-vault cuts, Vedder's lyrics were little more than garbled jibber-jabber, more noise than poetry.

    Other than the shirtless, drunk, fat guy in my far-back section who broke a seat by jumping on it, the fan reaction cooled the farther you were from the stage.

    The exceptions came during the night's two brightest songs: a cover of The Who's "Love Reign O'er Me" and Pearl Jam's own anthem "Alive," which was played in the show's last breaths. These two songs illustrated why Pearl Jam still matters -- but for the most part, Pearl Jam and Vedder coulda been better.

    :shock:



    Dan Aquialante is usually right on, however I have to whole heartedly disagree with him on thius one !
    He lives closeby me in the boro of Queens- i will now go toiletpaper his house.

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