i don't get the hate for anyone that has never done anything personally to you. these guys might all be assholes. you don't know. i appreciate watching great golf and for a long time tiger has been the best. i root for phil when he's winning, rory when he's playing well. i just want good golf and don't really care who it's from.
well ... you can develop dislikes for people even if they've never done anything to you ... you like donald trump? or ted nugent? ...
it's a two-way street here ... why does everyone who supports tiger automatically assume it's hate-fueled when something gets brought up ... i threw in the drop issue because I knew that the tiger lovers would support him no matter what ... and that's pretty much the case ...
just because it's brought up doesn't meant its all some kind of hate thing ... although i was trolling a bit for the tiger fan club here ... i do think it's an interesting story that definitely has merit ...
Hey cliffy - if I make up a sign, can you carry it at merion? :?
Already got that covered for you. Look for me on TV, I'll be the guy holding the "Rob Hearts Tiger" sign.
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Golfers on twitter are the best. Honest and fun. Ben crane just held a random contest for some random person on twitter to caddie for him tomorrow after he decided to give his the day off. Some guy celebrating his bday won. Pretty cool. Crane seems like a good dude. Really honest and insightful.
Going to be playing the TPC San Antonio AT&T Oaks course this coming Tuesday. Anyone ever play there? Looks awesome and can't wait
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Golf's gatekeepers — the U.S. Golf Association and the Royal & Ancient Golf Club — announced Tuesday they have outlawed the practice of anchoring a golf club to the body when a player makes a stroke.
The decision, however, could open the door to possible litigation and potential resistance from golf organizations the world over, including the PGA Tour and the PGA of America, who protested the ban during the 90-day comment period because it is not "in the best interests of the game."
The new rule (14-1b) — which takes effect in 2016 — prohibits strokes made with the club or hand gripping the club held directly against the player's body or with a forearm held against the body to establish an anchor point.
Anchoring is predominantly used in the act of putting. Four of the last six major champions used the stroke.
"This is about protecting the fundamentals of what the game has always been about, and we do believe this has been a divisive issue that needed to be cleared up," USGA executive director Mike Davis said. "I think it's really important that the PGA Tour — and all the professional tours — continue to follow one set of rules. We have gotten very positive feedback from the tours around the world saying that they like one set of rules, they like the R&A and USGA governing those. So if there was some type of schism, we don't think that would be good for golf.
"And we are doing what we think is right for the long-term benefit of the game for all golfers, and we just can't write them for one group of elite players."
The rule, announced by the USGA from its offices in Far Hills, N.J., will be implemented Jan. 1, 2016, when the Rules of Golf are updated.
The rule change does not alter current equipment rules and allows the continued use of belly-length and long putters, provided such clubs are not anchored during a stroke. If there is a violation of the rule, the resulting penalty is loss of hole in match play competition. In stroke play, each occurrence is a two-stroke penalty.
The USGA, which governs the rules of golf in the U.S. and Mexico, and the R&A, which oversees the rest of the world, worked in concert concerning the new rule. The governing bodies announced their proposal in November.
Peter Dawson, chief executive of the R&A, said the recent upsurge in the use of anchored putting strokes — whether to the belly, chest or under the chin — in the junior ranks and on the professional tours brought the subject into "renewed focus." This included major championship victories by anchoring players Keegan Bradley (2011 PGA Championship), Webb Simpson (2012 U.S. Open) Ernie Els (2012 British Open) and Adam Scott (2013 Masters).
During the comment period, the governing bodies heard from both sides of the argument. On one side are those who think securing the butt end of the putter handle against the body or affixing a portion of the putter handle against the left or right arm by using the other hand as a clasp provides an unfair advantage because it reduces pressure, nerves and twitches a player can feel while putting. On the other side are those who think other issues in golf should be dealt with, including the golf ball and the size of clubs.
"The new rule addresses the concerns that have been raised," Dawson said. "We recognize this has been a divisive issue but after thorough consideration we remain convinced that this is the right decision for golf."
2013-5-21 keegan bradley anchoring
The governing bodies said the rule change is not based on performance — Dawson has said there is no "compelling data" to prove anchoring helps — but instead deals with the fundamentals and traditions of the game and defines what a golf stroke is.
"The traditional stroke involves swinging the club with both the club and the gripping hands held away from the body, requiring the player to direct and control the movement of the entire club. Anchoring is different," USGA President Glen Nager said. "Intentionally securing one end of the club against the body and creating a point of physical attachment around which the club is swung is a substantial departure from the traditional free swing.
"Rule 14-1b eliminates the potential advantages that anchoring creates, potential advantages such as making the stroke simpler and more repeatable, restricting the movement and the rotation of the hands, the arms and the club face, creating a fixed pivot point, and creating extra support and stability that may diminish the effects of nerves and pressure, that anchoring provides these potential advantages is confirmed by those who play, teach and observe the game."
What the decision holds for the future is yet to be seen. The ban could create chaos if the PGA Tour or any professional tour decides to disregard the change, as is its right. It is possible that the PGA Tour could allow anchoring, while it would be prohibited in tournaments such as the U.S. Open and British Open. The PGA of America, which conducts the PGA Championship and the Ryder Cup in the U.S., could also refuse to adhere to the ban.
"We will now begin our process to ascertain whether the various provisions of Rule 14-1b will be implemented in our competitions and, if so, examine the process for implementation," the PGA Tour said in a statement. "In this regard, over the next month we will engage in discussions with our Player Advisory Council and Policy Board members. We will announce our position regarding the application of Rule 14-1b to our competitions upon conclusion of our process and we will have no further comment on the matter until that time."
The PGA Tour, however, always has followed the rules of golf as established by the USGA and R&A.
Brendan Steele, who turned professional in 2005 and won the 2011 Valero Texas Open, has been anchoring since 2006. But in the last three weeks, with his putting in disarray, he went to the method employed by Matt Kuchar, which is legal, where the putter handle is fixated to the left arm but is not anchored to a fixed point and both hands move during the swing.
"I looked for a new way, a better way to putt," Steele told USA TODAY Sports.
Steele said he wasn't surprised by the decision by the governing bodies. He didn't want to talk about possible litigation, saying he hopes to take himself out of that "equation" by finding a successful way to putt without anchoring.
Steele said it would be "tough" for the PGA Tour to go against the rule, but said there is widespread support among the players against the ban.
"I'm not really sure what we will do," Steele said. "We will discuss the issue in our meetings and go forward. … The (Tour players) all expected this. We knew they weren't serious about listening to anyone. If they didn't listen to the PGA Tour and the PGA of America, what kind of bodies in golf do you need to listen to? … They came up with the rule because they didn't like seeing people win majors with anchored putters."
The LPGA will not resist the new rule.
"We recognize the need for an independent governing body to maintain the rules of the game. We trust in the ability and expertise of both the USGA and R&A to make the decisions that are in the best interests of the game," the LPGA said in a statement. "The USGA provided ample time and opportunity for us to not only educate our players, but also to solicit input, concerns and feedback. While we know that not every one of our members is in favor of the rule change, the LPGA will continue to respect and follow the Rules of Golf which includes the implementation of Rule 14-1b in January of 2016."
David Feherty, who covers golf for CBS and Golf Channel, had this to say in a Tweet: "Horrible decision. Professional golfers need to make the rules for professional golf. Not rocket science."
PGA of America President Ted Bishop, an outspoken opponent of the ban from when it was first proposed, said the announcement was "a disappointment" but an expected one. He did not say whether or not the PGA of America would adopt the rule. The PGA of America jointly administers the Ryder Cup with the European Tour. The European Tour has said it will adopt the ban. If the PGA of America goes against it, the Ryder Cup could allow anchoring on U.S. soil and not on European soil.
"We knew where this was headed," Bishop told USA TODAY Sports before playing in the pro-am at the Senior PGA Championship at Bellerive Country Club in St. Louis, Mo. "We will contact our PGA professionals and for 30 days get feedback from them before going forward.
"The biggest ramification for us is with our club officials and how this new rule is to be implemented. We have to make sure our members know that if this rule is implemented, they know what to do as far as a local rule and the rule for competition. There is a lot of confusion out there. Some think there is a provision for a local rule to allow anchoring. If we follow the rules of the USGA and the R&A, we can't allow that to happen."
As well, Bishop said the PGA of America will be proactive in establishing ways to teach alternative putting methods.
"We're problem solvers," Bishop said. "We're teachers, counselors, psychologists. We will figure this out. We will adopt as this plays out."
In April, Dawson slammed the PGA of America for its opposition.
"I'm disappointed at the way that campaign was conducted," Dawson said. "It put rule-making onto the negotiating table. People have taken position that they will now have to back off from or maintain. The negotiating table is no place for rule-making to take place. Obviously, the feelings are strong.
"We shall have to see where it goes."
It could go to the court. Scott, Bradley, Tim Clark, Carl Pettersson and others have indicated they could take legal action against the ban.
Pettersson declined to comment Tuesday at the Crowne Plaza Invitational at Colonial.
"We're going to do whatever we have to do for the good of the game because that's our mission. Our mission is not to avoid legal challenges," Nager said. "Our mission is to determine the appropriate rules for the game that make the game strong for the long-term.
"In the event that any litigation is brought, we'll respond to whatever the claims are, but I can assure you this … we have looked at this from the legal perspective, as well, as we feel confident of our position."
What effect the ban will have on the game, from the amateur ranks on up, is unknown. Golf Datatech, a leading independent research firm for consumer, trade and retail golf trends, announced earlier this year a study developed to evaluate the reaction to the proposed rule will not have a major impact.
The results of the study were based on responses from 1,766 randomly selected golfers drawn from a Golf Datatech's database who play an average of 68 rounds per year with an average handicap of 14.3.
"On a practical level, the proposed ruling on anchoring putters has minimal impact on most amateur golfers, as only 5% use a long putter, and the majority of serious golfers don't believe long putters aid in the putting process," said Golf Datatech's John Krzynowek in the study. "Overall, however, the debate over long putters has far more to do with a few elite professional players and less to do with the game as played by the average golfer." According to the report, 62% of respondents do not believe the anchoring ban will cause some amateur golfers to enjoy the game less. Also, 31% of current long putter users will continue to anchor their putter, 31% will not anchor against their body and 38% will switch to a conventional putter.
And Jack Nicklaus said the ban won't ruin the game.
"No, I don't think so," Nicklaus told Golf Channel when asked if a ban would drive people away from the game. "It's like anything else; they'll get used to it and get over it. … I think the game of golf is going to be all right, guys. We don't have to worry about it."
Especially on the pro level, Nicklaus added.
"If the rules of the game change, then the rules change. We've had changes to the ball, changes to the size of clubs and to grooves. We've had all kinds of changes and players adjusted," he said. "And they will adjust to this, too."
The rule change
The proposed change would re-label current Rule 14-1 as Rule 14-1a and establish Rule 14-1b as described below:
14-1b Anchoring the Club
In making a stroke, the player must not anchor the club, either "directly" or by use of an "anchor point."
Note 1: The club is anchored "directly" when the player intentionally holds the club or a gripping hand in contact with any part of his body, except that the player may hold the club or a gripping hand against a hand or forearm.
Note 2: An "anchor point" exists when the player intentionally holds a forearm in contact with any part of his body to establish a gripping hand as a stable point around which the other hand may swing the club. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/go ... p=fbsports
Great story about Venturi in the post the other day
Ken Venturi, Jim Nantz’s longtime CBS golf partner and pal, died Friday at 82 — on Nantz’s 54th birthday. Nantz tells a neat story about Venturi’s sense of things. Hopefully, I’ve got it straight:
It was in the early 1960s and Venturi was in the quarterfinals of a match-play tournament. Venturi was down one on the 14th in what had been a friendly match. Both players had been conceding all short putts.
At that point, Venturi either chipped or putted, leaving the ball two inches from the cup. Already knowing far longer putts had been conceded, he walked over and picked it up.
His opponent demanded to know why. Venturi, at first, figured he was kidding. Good one.
“You’ve got to wait for me to tell you that’s good; you can’t just assume it and pick it up,” his opponent told him. “You should’ve putted that out or waited for me to tell you to pick it up.”
Venturi calmly but firmly asked, “Are you going to call that on me?”
His opponent said that he was.
“Well, if you do, you’ll regret it the rest of your life. Believe me; you’ll regret it the rest of your life.”
“Sorry, rules are rules. You’re two-down.”
“No, I’m not,” said Venturi, “the match is over. You lose. You’re carrying 15 clubs.”
Nantz: “Kenny was never going to call that guy for having one too many clubs. That wasn’t his style. He’d have told him on the first tee, if he’d known it then. So when he noticed, later, he never mentioned it. He didn’t want to look as if he were waiting to call it on him during the match.
“But when the guy did that on a two-inch putt ... first Kenny warned him, he warned him twice.”
"He called me a whiner. He's probably right," Garcia said Monday at Wentworth, England, at the start of the week of the BMW PGA Championship. "But that's also probably the first thing he's told you guys that's true in 15 years. I know what he's like. You guys are finding out."
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"He called me a whiner. He's probably right," Garcia said Monday at Wentworth, England, at the start of the week of the BMW PGA Championship. "But that's also probably the first thing he's told you guys that's true in 15 years. I know what he's like. You guys are finding out."
Garcia was on stage with the rest of the victorious 2012 European Ryder Cup team when he was asked whether he would invite Woods over for dinner at the U.S. Open next month.
The Spaniard replied, according to The Guardian: “He can come over every night – we will serve fried chicken.”
What a fucking little bitch. I love how tiger has said nothing but "no" and now Garcia gets racist. So just like the rest of their careers, tiger wins once again
What a fucking little bitch. I love how tiger has said nothing but "no" and now Garcia gets racist. So just like the rest of their careers, tiger wins once again
I'm kidding.....kind of.
what pisses me off is when a roomful of tiger-slurping "journalists" laugh at tiger's "no" like he's the reincarnation of george fucking carlin :x
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the media knows tiger isn't gonna give them any quotes so all they can do is laugh...and frankly, this whole thing sounds like something from Vince McMahon's dirty anus...up until the fried chicken comment, i thought this was all tiger and sergio's pr people...then again, maybe sergio fell on his sword to up the level of the controversy
Golf drama..driven by tiger..golf is making money again...I like serg and backed him in stepping to tiger but this was just dumb..although hes the type of player that needs a fire..i dont think hes a racist..everyone likes the race jokes..he was trying to be funny..
Since the "club incident" 2 wks ago: Sergio has called Tiger a liar, said he's not the nicest guy on tour, and now throwing racial jokes his way...
Talk about having someone in your head LOL
Sergio =
58 majors, 0 wins & 16 missed cuts
24 professional wins (8 out of 251 on PGA Tour alone) = over $28 million in earnings
Arguably the most underachieving & whiniest golfer in the history of the game
Tiger =
67 majors, 14 wins & 4 missed cuts
105 professional wins (78 out of 300 on PGA Tour alone)= over $107 Million in earnings
Arguably the greatest golfer in his era and in the conversation of greatest of all time
Sergio said today he want's to move past all of this. He's the one that's kept it going and now he's said something dumb and want's everyone to move on. The guy is an absolute joke.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
Correct!
He's a choker...
He's an underachiever...
He's a whiner...
He's a bit of a racist it seems as well...
He's going to have to shut all of this down with winning - and I don't mean the Castello Masters or Mallorca Classic either...
Fuzzy still answers questions about his comments...so many years later...
Was Sergio joking? Probably - booze talk...stupid comment out of a dumb guy...Again, Tiger is in this guy's head - bigtime.
Can't wait for their next head to head pairing
“The comment that was made wasn’t silly. It was wrong, hurtful and clearly inappropriate, I’m confident that there is real regret that the remark was made. The Players ended nearly two weeks ago and it’s long past time to move on and talk about golf.”
-Tiger Woods
Should be a lot of fun @ Merion, Sergio...if you thought the NY crowds were a tad rowdy towards you @ Bethpage
LOL
The Philly fans might have some fun :shock: (and some extra batteries)
i personally could care less ... i don't like him because he's a prick and he has about an ounce of the class someone like adam scott or bubba watson has ...
LOL, tremendous comment, even if its misspelled, RoughMix...way to contribute to the discussion...
Let's see - Sergio resents Tiger and is jealous of Tiger (FACT). He's been whining for 2 weeks and now inappropriate (FACT) - but no comments out of you, Polaris X or any of the hater peanut gallery other than to question "objectivity" out of a man who doesn't know Tiger, Bubba or Adam and compares class???
LOL
But let me guess, you guys find what Sergio said last night, and the petulance and whining the last 2 weeks acceptable and part of the game? And merely questioning it dictates "lover"?
Read an article online and was reading the comments. One person brought up a good point. They said something like...
What if Sergio was asked if he was going to have dinner with Darren Clarke and Sergio's reply was "yes and I'll be sure to have a fully stocked liquor cabinet"
They go on to say, the audience would have laughed and no harm done...why is "fried chicken" so bad? I understand the stereotype w/ the chicken, but there are hundreds of food/drink stereotypes that usually garner laughs. Fried chicken is always a no-no for some reason
Anyway...Sergio is an ass
I've met Rob
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
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LOL, tremendous comment, even if its misspelled, RoughMix...way to contribute to the discussion...
Let's see - Sergio resents Tiger and is jealous of Tiger (FACT). He's been whining for 2 weeks and now inappropriate (FACT) - but no comments out of you, Polaris X or any of the hater peanut gallery other than to question "objectivity" out of a man who doesn't know Tiger, Bubba or Adam and compares class???
LOL
But let me guess, you guys find what Sergio said last night, and the petulance and whining the last 2 weeks acceptable and part of the game? And merely questioning it dictates "lover"?
LOL
Lovers keep on lovin'
Here's a stat for you.
Going on 5 years without a major.
And you have been whining about Sergio all day.
You and Sergio seem to have quite a bit in common.
"They don't give a shit Keith Moon is dead,
is that exactly what I thought I read."
Comments
well ... you can develop dislikes for people even if they've never done anything to you ... you like donald trump? or ted nugent? ...
it's a two-way street here ... why does everyone who supports tiger automatically assume it's hate-fueled when something gets brought up ... i threw in the drop issue because I knew that the tiger lovers would support him no matter what ... and that's pretty much the case ...
just because it's brought up doesn't meant its all some kind of hate thing ... although i was trolling a bit for the tiger fan club here ... i do think it's an interesting story that definitely has merit ...
Tiger is my favorite golfer and I love watching him play and dominate.
That said,
He is probably a pretty big asshole
I thought he was going to get DQ'ed from the Masters but understand the ruling
His ball was probably not a perfect line this past weekend but he should not be penalized given everything that has been discussed many times
The fact that Hank Haney said in his book that Tiger didn't share or offer him popsicles makes me like Tiger more, what are we 7?
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rip ken
great time this afternoon
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
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"Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
Ken Venturi, Jim Nantz’s longtime CBS golf partner and pal, died Friday at 82 — on Nantz’s 54th birthday. Nantz tells a neat story about Venturi’s sense of things. Hopefully, I’ve got it straight:
It was in the early 1960s and Venturi was in the quarterfinals of a match-play tournament. Venturi was down one on the 14th in what had been a friendly match. Both players had been conceding all short putts.
At that point, Venturi either chipped or putted, leaving the ball two inches from the cup. Already knowing far longer putts had been conceded, he walked over and picked it up.
His opponent demanded to know why. Venturi, at first, figured he was kidding. Good one.
“You’ve got to wait for me to tell you that’s good; you can’t just assume it and pick it up,” his opponent told him. “You should’ve putted that out or waited for me to tell you to pick it up.”
Venturi calmly but firmly asked, “Are you going to call that on me?”
His opponent said that he was.
“Well, if you do, you’ll regret it the rest of your life. Believe me; you’ll regret it the rest of your life.”
“Sorry, rules are rules. You’re two-down.”
“No, I’m not,” said Venturi, “the match is over. You lose. You’re carrying 15 clubs.”
Nantz: “Kenny was never going to call that guy for having one too many clubs. That wasn’t his style. He’d have told him on the first tee, if he’d known it then. So when he noticed, later, he never mentioned it. He didn’t want to look as if he were waiting to call it on him during the match.
“But when the guy did that on a two-inch putt ... first Kenny warned him, he warned him twice.”
"He called me a whiner. He's probably right," Garcia said Monday at Wentworth, England, at the start of the week of the BMW PGA Championship. "But that's also probably the first thing he's told you guys that's true in 15 years. I know what he's like. You guys are finding out."
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Garcia was on stage with the rest of the victorious 2012 European Ryder Cup team when he was asked whether he would invite Woods over for dinner at the U.S. Open next month.
The Spaniard replied, according to The Guardian: “He can come over every night – we will serve fried chicken.”
yep, sergio is awesome :roll:
I'm kidding.....kind of.
what pisses me off is when a roomful of tiger-slurping "journalists" laugh at tiger's "no" like he's the reincarnation of george fucking carlin :x
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the media knows tiger isn't gonna give them any quotes so all they can do is laugh...and frankly, this whole thing sounds like something from Vince McMahon's dirty anus...up until the fried chicken comment, i thought this was all tiger and sergio's pr people...then again, maybe sergio fell on his sword to up the level of the controversy
Edit: Golf channel isn't giving him a pass and the criticism was fair.
Talk about having someone in your head LOL
Sergio =
58 majors, 0 wins & 16 missed cuts
24 professional wins (8 out of 251 on PGA Tour alone) = over $28 million in earnings
Arguably the most underachieving & whiniest golfer in the history of the game
Tiger =
67 majors, 14 wins & 4 missed cuts
105 professional wins (78 out of 300 on PGA Tour alone)= over $107 Million in earnings
Arguably the greatest golfer in his era and in the conversation of greatest of all time
Keep yapping, Sergio
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He's a choker...
He's an underachiever...
He's a whiner...
He's a bit of a racist it seems as well...
He's going to have to shut all of this down with winning - and I don't mean the Castello Masters or Mallorca Classic either...
Fuzzy still answers questions about his comments...so many years later...
Was Sergio joking? Probably - booze talk...stupid comment out of a dumb guy...Again, Tiger is in this guy's head - bigtime.
Can't wait for their next head to head pairing
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8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
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2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
-Tiger Woods
Should be a lot of fun @ Merion, Sergio...if you thought the NY crowds were a tad rowdy towards you @ Bethpage
LOL
The Philly fans might have some fun :shock:
7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
Careful :nono:
LOL
7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
tigers' lovers to the recue.
is that exactly what I thought I read."
LOL, tremendous comment, even if its misspelled, RoughMix...way to contribute to the discussion...
Let's see - Sergio resents Tiger and is jealous of Tiger (FACT). He's been whining for 2 weeks and now inappropriate (FACT) - but no comments out of you, Polaris X or any of the hater peanut gallery other than to question "objectivity" out of a man who doesn't know Tiger, Bubba or Adam and compares class???
LOL
But let me guess, you guys find what Sergio said last night, and the petulance and whining the last 2 weeks acceptable and part of the game? And merely questioning it dictates "lover"?
LOL
7.9.03~9.28.04~10.1.05~5.12.06~5.13.06~5.27.06~5.28.06
8.5.08(EV)~10.9.09~5.21.10~6.20.11(EV)~7.5.11(EV)~7.9.11(EV)
11.21.13~8.27.16(EV)~11.14.16(TOTD)~4.13.20~9.27.20~9.26.21~10.2.21
2.15.22 (EV)~2.25.22 (EV)~2.27.22 (EV)~5.3.22~5.7.22~9.17.24~9.29.24
What if Sergio was asked if he was going to have dinner with Darren Clarke and Sergio's reply was "yes and I'll be sure to have a fully stocked liquor cabinet"
They go on to say, the audience would have laughed and no harm done...why is "fried chicken" so bad? I understand the stereotype w/ the chicken, but there are hundreds of food/drink stereotypes that usually garner laughs. Fried chicken is always a no-no for some reason
Anyway...Sergio is an ass
DEGENERATE FUK
This place is dead
"THERE ARE NO CLIQUES, ONLY THOSE WHO DON'T JOIN THE FUN" - Empty circa 2015
"Kfsbho&$thncds" - F Me In the Brain - circa 2015
Here's a stat for you.
Going on 5 years without a major.
And you have been whining about Sergio all day.
You and Sergio seem to have quite a bit in common.
is that exactly what I thought I read."