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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    edited March 13
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    If you prefer. And gee, I wonder how many were committed by immigrants, legal or otherwise versus native born? Topic integrity and all.

    This is a list of mass shootings that took place in the United States in 2024Mass shootings are incidents in which several people are injured or killed due to firearm-related violence, specifically for the purposes of this article, a total of four or more victims. As of February 29, a total of 157 people have been killed and 254 people have been wounded in 82 shootings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    Yes, you're free to move on. It's been apparent since Sandy Hook that jack shit is going to be done about gun violence in this country; it's here to stay. 
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    If you prefer. And gee, I wonder how many were committed by immigrants, legal or otherwise versus native born? Topic integrity and all.

    This is a list of mass shootings that took place in the United States in 2024Mass shootings are incidents in which several people are injured or killed due to firearm-related violence, specifically for the purposes of this article, a total of four or more victims. As of February 29, a total of 157 people have been killed and 254 people have been wounded in 82 shootings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024
    So are we safer or not?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,248
    edited March 13
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    Yes, you're free to move on. It's been apparent since Sandy Hook that jack shit is going to be done about gun violence in this country; it's here to stay. 
    And, as I have pointed out before....can you possibly imagine a scenario where Democrats sabotage bipartisan gun legislation that would actually make a difference like maga is doing right now for political purposes with the border bill? Nope. Neither can I. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,248
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    If you prefer. And gee, I wonder how many were committed by immigrants, legal or otherwise versus native born? Topic integrity and all.

    This is a list of mass shootings that took place in the United States in 2024Mass shootings are incidents in which several people are injured or killed due to firearm-related violence, specifically for the purposes of this article, a total of four or more victims. As of February 29, a total of 157 people have been killed and 254 people have been wounded in 82 shootings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024
    So are we safer or not?
    Than 2020? Of course we are. Are you suggesting we do nothing about guns though? Not sure of your point. 
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    If you prefer. And gee, I wonder how many were committed by immigrants, legal or otherwise versus native born? Topic integrity and all.

    This is a list of mass shootings that took place in the United States in 2024Mass shootings are incidents in which several people are injured or killed due to firearm-related violence, specifically for the purposes of this article, a total of four or more victims. As of February 29, a total of 157 people have been killed and 254 people have been wounded in 82 shootings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024
    So are we safer or not?
    Than 2020? Of course we are. Are you suggesting we do nothing about guns though? Not sure of your point. 
    It was rhetorical...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    If you prefer. And gee, I wonder how many were committed by immigrants, legal or otherwise versus native born? Topic integrity and all.

    This is a list of mass shootings that took place in the United States in 2024Mass shootings are incidents in which several people are injured or killed due to firearm-related violence, specifically for the purposes of this article, a total of four or more victims. As of February 29, a total of 157 people have been killed and 254 people have been wounded in 82 shootings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024
    So are we safer or not?
    From “overall” total categories of crime, yes. In particular cities, no. From particular types of crime, no. But hey, if you’re comfortable living in a country where 157 people have been killed in mass shootings in the first two months of the year, you should be chanting U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A and donating to the NRA to keep things on track. And further, in the interests of topic integrity, keep blaming the “other” for any spike of or for crime, rather than native born. You do you.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    So we can move on about guns then?
    If you prefer. And gee, I wonder how many were committed by immigrants, legal or otherwise versus native born? Topic integrity and all.

    This is a list of mass shootings that took place in the United States in 2024Mass shootings are incidents in which several people are injured or killed due to firearm-related violence, specifically for the purposes of this article, a total of four or more victims. As of February 29, a total of 157 people have been killed and 254 people have been wounded in 82 shootings.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2024
    So are we safer or not?
    From “overall” total categories of crime, yes. In particular cities, no. From particular types of crime, no. But hey, if you’re comfortable living in a country where 157 people have been killed in mass shootings in the first two months of the year, you should be chanting U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A and donating to the NRA to keep things on track. And further, in the interests of topic integrity, keep blaming the “other” for any spike of or for crime, rather than native born. You do you.
    Missed that Rhetorical part huh? I donate to the NRA every year.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Why am I not surprised?
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    Why am I not surprised?
    I don't actually.  I am waiting to see if they hire someone better than lapierre.  We will see how Cotton does.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    less than 2% of migrants asked to be moved to another state actually take NY up on it latest polls show.

    This isn't a shocker.  You waited this long to get here so why would you leave again?  In reality the people would have a better shot at getting housing considering NY is chock full at the moment.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,283
    less than 2% of migrants asked to be moved to another state actually take NY up on it latest polls show.

    This isn't a shocker.  You waited this long to get here so why would you leave again?  In reality the people would have a better shot at getting housing considering NY is chock full at the moment.
    I exactly why would they want to go to let’s say Tejas 
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,529
    edited March 21
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    And yet if I want to buy deodorant at a supermarket I need to request a staff person unlock the display.  Stores are closing down because nobody can enforce theft laws anymore.  Such a sad state of the country that so many people just don't care and think they can take whatever they want.  I get we don't have resources to enforce a lot of this stuff. 

    Violent crime being down is great.  And hopefully that is the case for domestic situations.   

     
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    And yet if I want to buy deodorant at a supermarket I need to request a staff person unlock the display.  Stores are closing down because nobody can enforce theft laws anymore.  Such a sad state of the country that so many people just don't care and think they can take whatever they want.  I get we don't have resources to enforce a lot of this stuff. 

    Violent crime being down is great.  And hopefully that is the case for domestic situations.   

     
    Even former president Donald Trump weighed in, taking a decidedly draconian stance in a speech last week before California Republicans.

    “We will immediately stop all of the pillaging and theft,” Trump said. “Very simply: If you rob a store, you can fully expect to be shot as you are leaving that store.”

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    lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 344
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


    The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

    At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,993
    edited March 22
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


    The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

    At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.
    I tried to find something on unreported crimes, but didn't find anything that seemed very reliable. 
    We moved out of state from Denver a few years ago, largely due to the increase of crime we witnessed. Within about 5 years the public parks and areas went from being a beautiful place to take a family, to being littered with used needles, homeless and tent cities and litter. A few months before we moved someone tried breaking into our house at about 10 in the morning. We learned he stole a car, crashed it through the fence of the house 2 doors down and was trying to flea. The cops did arrive and circle the neighborhood. They told us they had a good idea who it was and it was a homeless guy who does this all the time. Later that day we found some ditched items in our yard that contained stolen prescription drugs and other illegal items. We called the police to come collect them, they told us to just throw it away, they won't do anything with it. I was baffled, he clearly broke into other homes to get these items and this would be proof of a breaking and entering crime and can connect him to other houses with potentially open cases, but breaking and entering is such a "low level" crime now they don't even bother anymore and they are too understaffed to do much about it anyway. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,687
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


    The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

    At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.

    VIOLENT CRIME. Local jurisdictions not making arrests for petty crimes like theft (big arrest last week. white couple, 8 million dollar theft ring.) for whatever reasons, take it up with that jurisdiction.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


    The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

    At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.
    Do you have a source for the “amount of crime that doesn’t get reported is astounding?” What does “scooter central” look like? Post a pic.

    I saw a house burn down once. Arson is out of control.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

    Nevermind, I know why.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,993
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    Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

    Nevermind, I know why.
    Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
    "Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

    Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

    "Who did a march madness bracket?"
    Someone responds.
    "Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    mickeyrat said:
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


    The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

    At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.

    VIOLENT CRIME. Local jurisdictions not making arrests for petty crimes like theft (big arrest last week. white couple, 8 million dollar theft ring.) for whatever reasons, take it up with that jurisdiction.
    I forgot to add violent crimes to that one too. My bad.

    Not everything gets reported...
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 38,975
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


    The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

    At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.
    Do you have a source for the “amount of crime that doesn’t get reported is astounding?” What does “scooter central” look like? Post a pic.

    I saw a house burn down once. Arson is out of control.
    Stories on NPR and their reporting.  I brought it up previously too.

    Are there statistics on it? No.  Why? I don't know if you could quantify it or even fact check it.  All I have is the stories, segments and reporting NPR has done.  This is for NY also.  Not sure about the rest of the country?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mace1229 said:
    Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

    Nevermind, I know why.
    Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
    "Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

    Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

    "Who did a march madness bracket?"
    Someone responds.
    "Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"
    In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

    Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

    I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

    Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,993
    edited March 22
    mace1229 said:
    Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

    Nevermind, I know why.
    Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
    "Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

    Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

    "Who did a march madness bracket?"
    Someone responds.
    "Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"
    In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

    Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

    I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

    Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.
    Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
    You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
    Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.
    Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

    Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.


    The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

    At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.
    Do you have a source for the “amount of crime that doesn’t get reported is astounding?” What does “scooter central” look like? Post a pic.

    I saw a house burn down once. Arson is out of control.
    Stories on NPR and their reporting.  I brought it up previously too.

    Are there statistics on it? No.  Why? I don't know if you could quantify it or even fact check it.  All I have is the stories, segments and reporting NPR has done.  This is for NY also.  Not sure about the rest of the country?
    Take a guess on how many felony assaults were reported on NYC subways last year. Just a guess, don’t google it. Guess. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

    Nevermind, I know why.
    Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
    "Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

    Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

    "Who did a march madness bracket?"
    Someone responds.
    "Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"
    In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

    Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

    I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

    Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.
    Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
    You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
    Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?
    Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

    Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

    So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

    So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

    But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 8,993
    edited March 22
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

    Nevermind, I know why.
    Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
    "Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

    Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

    "Who did a march madness bracket?"
    Someone responds.
    "Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"
    In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

    Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

    I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

    Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.
    Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
    You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
    Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?
    Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

    Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

    So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

    So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

    But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.
    If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

     I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

    I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,576
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

    Nevermind, I know why.
    Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
    "Buh buh buh immigrants!

    From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

    3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

    Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

    "Who did a march madness bracket?"
    Someone responds.
    "Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"
    In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

    Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

    I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

    Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.
    Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
    You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
    Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?
    Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

    Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

    So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

    So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

    But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.
    If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

     I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

    I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 
    Then you’re for amending 2A, eh?
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