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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Godfather. wrote:
    this kind of stuff is part of the problem and one reason why AZ. is putting the hammer down.

    Godfather.


    Credit: U.S. Customs and Border Protection

    Agents found 983 pounds of marijuana in scrub brush near Sonoita, Ariz.

    by Jennifer Thomas

    azfamily.com

    Posted on June 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM

    Updated yesterday at 2:22 PM


    TUCSON -- Nearly 4,600 pounds of marijuana worth more than $3 million was seized in southern Arizona in less than 48 hours.

    On Tuesday, Customs and Border Protection officers on patrol noticed two suspicious vehicles covered with tarps near Stanfield, Ariz., and contacted U.S. Border Patrol agents for support.

    The agents discovered two pickup trucks containing a total of 159 bundles of marijuana. The approximately 3,400 pounds of marijuana was valued at more than $2.7 million. Record checks revealed that both vehicles had been reported stolen.

    On Wednesday, agents at the Highway 90 checkpoint discovered 200 pounds of marijuana concealed within a compartment of a vehicle. The marijuana, valued at more than $177,000, and the vehicle were seized. The driver was held for prosecution.

    Early Thursday, an agent assigned to the Sonoita Station was working with a handheld infrared camera and spotted a group of suspected illegal immigrants. Responding agents discovered 20 bundles of marijuana abandoned in the scrub brush but were unable to locate anyone. The marijuana weighed in at more than 980 pounds and is valued at more than $780,000.

    Combined, the marijuana seized by Tucson Sector agents is valued at more than $3.6 million.

    From Oct. 1 to May 31, the Tucson Sector Border Patrol seized more than 712,000 pounds of marijuana exceeding $569 million in value.
    I could paste a handful of stories of drug busts on your other border and they weren't done by illegal immigrants. Unless I should be suspicious of everyone who talks with that southern twang or eats maple syrup... for most of them ARE Americans and Canadians...
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    Godfather. wrote:
    this kind of stuff is part of the problem and one reason why AZ. is putting the hammer down.

    Godfather.


    Credit: U.S. Customs and Border Protection

    Agents found 983 pounds of marijuana in scrub brush near Sonoita, Ariz.

    by Jennifer Thomas

    azfamily.com

    Posted on June 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM

    Updated yesterday at 2:22 PM


    TUCSON -- Nearly 4,600 pounds of marijuana worth more than $3 million was seized in southern Arizona in less than 48 hours.

    On Tuesday, Customs and Border Protection officers on patrol noticed two suspicious vehicles covered with tarps near Stanfield, Ariz., and contacted U.S. Border Patrol agents for support.

    The agents discovered two pickup trucks containing a total of 159 bundles of marijuana. The approximately 3,400 pounds of marijuana was valued at more than $2.7 million. Record checks revealed that both vehicles had been reported stolen.

    On Wednesday, agents at the Highway 90 checkpoint discovered 200 pounds of marijuana concealed within a compartment of a vehicle. The marijuana, valued at more than $177,000, and the vehicle were seized. The driver was held for prosecution.

    Early Thursday, an agent assigned to the Sonoita Station was working with a handheld infrared camera and spotted a group of suspected illegal immigrants. Responding agents discovered 20 bundles of marijuana abandoned in the scrub brush but were unable to locate anyone. The marijuana weighed in at more than 980 pounds and is valued at more than $780,000.

    Combined, the marijuana seized by Tucson Sector agents is valued at more than $3.6 million.

    From Oct. 1 to May 31, the Tucson Sector Border Patrol seized more than 712,000 pounds of marijuana exceeding $569 million in value.


    Maybe there's a market for ALL that marijuana here on the USA, I'm afraid that all that marijuana is going to waste!!! :shock:
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    haffajappa wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    this kind of stuff is part of the problem and one reason why AZ. is putting the hammer down.

    Godfather.


    Credit: U.S. Customs and Border Protection

    Agents found 983 pounds of marijuana in scrub brush near Sonoita, Ariz.

    by Jennifer Thomas

    azfamily.com

    Posted on June 4, 2010 at 12:14 PM

    Updated yesterday at 2:22 PM


    TUCSON -- Nearly 4,600 pounds of marijuana worth more than $3 million was seized in southern Arizona in less than 48 hours.

    On Tuesday, Customs and Border Protection officers on patrol noticed two suspicious vehicles covered with tarps near Stanfield, Ariz., and contacted U.S. Border Patrol agents for support.

    The agents discovered two pickup trucks containing a total of 159 bundles of marijuana. The approximately 3,400 pounds of marijuana was valued at more than $2.7 million. Record checks revealed that both vehicles had been reported stolen.

    On Wednesday, agents at the Highway 90 checkpoint discovered 200 pounds of marijuana concealed within a compartment of a vehicle. The marijuana, valued at more than $177,000, and the vehicle were seized. The driver was held for prosecution.

    Early Thursday, an agent assigned to the Sonoita Station was working with a handheld infrared camera and spotted a group of suspected illegal immigrants. Responding agents discovered 20 bundles of marijuana abandoned in the scrub brush but were unable to locate anyone. The marijuana weighed in at more than 980 pounds and is valued at more than $780,000.

    Combined, the marijuana seized by Tucson Sector agents is valued at more than $3.6 million.

    From Oct. 1 to May 31, the Tucson Sector Border Patrol seized more than 712,000 pounds of marijuana exceeding $569 million in value.
    I could paste a handful of stories of drug busts on your other border and they weren't done by illegal immigrants. Unless I should be suspicious of everyone who talks with that southern twang or eats maple syrup... for most of them ARE Americans and Canadians...

    and.....your point ? you don't think they get caught also, most of the drugs in US come in from mexico and one reason is because the borders have been so lax, it's more a country problem than a people problem,drug money has corrupeted cop's INS and mexicos past presidents and maybe the current president...he hassn't been killed yet he must be playing ball :lol: .

    Godfather.
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    Godfather. wrote:
    and.....your point ? you don't think they get caught also, most of the drugs in US come in from mexico and one reason is because the borders have been so lax, it's more a country problem than a people problem,drug money has corrupeted cop's INS and mexicos past presidents and maybe the current president...he hassn't been killed yet he must be playing ball :lol: .

    Godfather.

    I believe the drug "problem" deserves a thread for itself.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    arq wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    and.....your point ? you don't think they get caught also, most of the drugs in US come in from mexico and one reason is because the borders have been so lax, it's more a country problem than a people problem,drug money has corrupeted cop's INS and mexicos past presidents and maybe the current president...he hassn't been killed yet he must be playing ball :lol: .

    Godfather.

    I believe the drug "problem" deserves a thread for itself.
    yeah my point was that this thread is about racial profiling... and unless you weren't referring to that then i guess i would ahve had to ask what your point was.
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    haffajappa wrote:
    yeah my point was that this thread is about racial profiling... and unless you weren't referring to that then i guess i would have had to ask what your point was.

    Totally agreed!
    this thread is about racial profiling...
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    well yeah o.k.....you got me but isent this stuff part of what has been a part of the profiling the wrong people as far the AZ. issue stands ? and this is what kicked off the whole thing in AZ. when the farmer got killed isent it, but yes I apoligize for posting on the wrong thread.

    Godfather.
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Godfather. wrote:
    well yeah o.k.....you got me but isent this stuff part of what has been a part of the profiling the wrong people as far the AZ. issue stands ? and this is what kicked off the whole thing in AZ. when the farmer got killed isent it, but yes I apoligize for posting on the wrong thread.

    Godfather.
    I dno apparently its people in your country illegally taking your jobs.
    Drug smuggling is a problem on many borders not just Mexican/US ones
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    haffajappa wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    well yeah o.k.....you got me but isent this stuff part of what has been a part of the profiling the wrong people as far the AZ. issue stands ? and this is what kicked off the whole thing in AZ. when the farmer got killed isent it, but yes I apoligize for posting on the wrong thread.

    Godfather.
    I dno apparently its people in your country illegally taking your jobs.
    Drug smuggling is a problem on many borders not just Mexican/US ones

    you would be surprised how it affects the job market here,I grew up in the construction trades from the mid 70's up till 2001 and I can tell you it's not good, I put a lot(or all) of the blame on the const. company's that hired illegals at half or less the normal wage, I know company owners that have told me that they can hire 3 illegals to 1 skilled carpenter from san diego area and the same goes with concrete drywall etc. it really is no joke here
    and as far as the drug market here I have lived that too it's worse than the t.v will tell you sometimes, in the 80-90's I saw things that would blow you away, in 1980-81 me and a friend went to the bay in mission beach to have a few beers and kick back around 8:30-9:00pm when we pulled up to park by the jeddy we saw 5 boxes tied up with twine so I went to check it out and it was bud's...lotza bud's and as i grabbed a box a mexican guy with a walkie talkie runs up yelling at me in spanish so I looked at him thinking I could drop this guy quick but I took a look at the only way in and out and there was a motor home parked there all the sudden and I looked back at him and he was handing me a hand full of weed saying vominos (sp) and real quick I knew we had come to have a beer on the wrong night so I took the hand full of weed and left.
    I know there is problems on other border's and AZ. and cal. are just a few that's why the issue needs to be corrected across the board.

    Godfather.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Godfather. wrote:
    and as far as the drug market here I have lived that too it's worse than the t.v will tell you sometimes, in the 80-90's I saw things that would blow you away, in 1980-81 me and a friend went to the bay in mission beach to have a few beers and kick back around 8:30-9:00pm when we pulled up to park by the jeddy we saw 5 boxes tied up with twine so I went to check it out and it was bud's...lotza bud's and as i grabbed a box a mexican guy with a walkie talkie runs up yelling at me in spanish so I looked at him thinking I could drop this guy quick but I took a look at the only way in and out and there was a motor home parked there all the sudden and I looked back at him and he was handing me a hand full of weed saying vominos (sp) and real quick I knew we had come to have a beer on the wrong night so I took the hand full of weed and left.
    I know there is problems on other border's and AZ. and cal. are just a few that's why the issue needs to be corrected across the board.

    Godfather.
    ..
    So, you are admitting here that you participated in 'Drug Trafficing' by not reporting the incident to law enforcement and took illegal drugs instead? That you are admitting that you are no better than those general contractors that hire illegals instead of local workers? Aren't you admitting to being part of the problem, instead of the solution?
    Okay... I see where you are coming from.
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  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    unsung wrote:
    Legal is good, illegal is bad.
    Exactly
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    and as far as the drug market here I have lived that too it's worse than the t.v will tell you sometimes, in the 80-90's I saw things that would blow you away, in 1980-81 me and a friend went to the bay in mission beach to have a few beers and kick back around 8:30-9:00pm when we pulled up to park by the jeddy we saw 5 boxes tied up with twine so I went to check it out and it was bud's...lotza bud's and as i grabbed a box a mexican guy with a walkie talkie runs up yelling at me in spanish so I looked at him thinking I could drop this guy quick but I took a look at the only way in and out and there was a motor home parked there all the sudden and I looked back at him and he was handing me a hand full of weed saying vominos (sp) and real quick I knew we had come to have a beer on the wrong night so I took the hand full of weed and left.
    I know there is problems on other border's and AZ. and cal. are just a few that's why the issue needs to be corrected across the board.

    Godfather.
    ..
    So, you are admitting here that you participated in 'Drug Trafficing' by not reporting the incident to law enforcement and took illegal drugs instead? That you are admitting that you are no better than those general contractors that hire illegals instead of local workers? Aren't you admitting to being part of the problem, instead of the solution?
    Okay... I see where you are coming from.

    cosmo.....decaf man decaf ! ha ha I was like 18 or19 years old and not afraid of much back then, it's funny how you think you know it all at that age but don't really know shit...btw arent you admitting that you are a rat just by asking me those questions... I think I see where your coming from :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited June 2010
    Godfather. wrote:
    cosmo.....decaf man decaf ! ha ha I was like 18 or19 years old and not afraid of much back then, it's funny how you think you know it all at that age but don't really know shit...btw arent you admitting that you are a rat just by asking me those questions... I think I see where your coming from :lol:

    Godfather.
    ...
    It all comes to a question of 'Character'.
    And age 18,19 is an adult and not much of an excuse for a lack moral character. You claim to have witnessed criminal activity and just let it slide... then, complain about that EXACT criminal activity later in life. It points to you either being morally bankrupt at age 19, a hypocrite or the story you just told was a complete fabrication. Which is it? If it is something other, then, please, enlighten me. It was your story in which you paint yourself as someone who not only witnessed a crime and chose not to report it... but actually PARTICIPATE in it by accepting payment from the criminal.
    And how am I a 'Rat' for pointing out questions on a story you offered up freely?
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    unsung wrote:
    Legal is good, illegal is bad.
    Exactly
    +2
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    ...and I looked back at him and he was handing me a hand full of weed saying vominos (sp) and real quick I knew we had come to have a beer on the wrong night

    You mean you went there on the 'right' night?
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    arthurdent wrote:
    (this is just my opinion, but it's an opinion born out of experience)

    The small county in Kansas I live in has one of the highest percentages of hispanics in the country (about 49%). Most all of them work in the livestock feedlots or packing plants that dominate the area. And a fair chunk of them have a less-than-legal status. I don't have a problem with this, per se, but I have seen the problems it can cause for a community. I've noticed that they have very little involvement in the community, I'm guessing because of their rather transient nature (I go through a new set of neighbors in my apartment complex about once every six months), but part of it is also that a chunk of these people don't WANT to learn english and don't want to assimilate. A disturbingly high percentage of the school children are being taught english as a second language, which puts further strain on an already stressed and under-funded school system. I'll go to walmart to pick something up, and it's like going to the zoo. The little kids are pretty much left to run amok throughout the store and if you aren't really careful, you'll run one of them over (I've been tempted a few times). I see people who can't speak a lick of english going through the checkout line waving around wads of food stamps. It's so bad that it's almost impossible to get a job out here if you aren't fluent in spanish. I see brand spankin new Escalades that have been tricked out to the hilt parked in front of some of the dirtiest ghetto houses.

    I've had this conversation with several people that work in agriculture, and we've come to the conclusion that there's a difference between those who work in the fields and those who work in livestock. The field workers are some of the best, most hard working laborers you can find, but the livestock ones are some of the laziest, and seem to think that they're somehow entitled to things which they aren't.

    Bust most of all, I want these idiots to learn english so they'll quit fucking up my order at the drive-through.
    Just love when someone tells me how bad illegal immigrants are for them or this country then they take their car to car wash, have “lawn service” cut their grass cause they’re too fkn fat to do it themselves as they go to local Mexican restaurant and stuff their faces with flour tortilla’s. The illegal alien has more balls than all of us. They spend every penny they have, or more go into debt, risk their lifes to get here to earn $6 freakin dollars an hour….and we BLAME them?!?!? Are you kidding me. Don’t blame the drug. In the US we have almost NO prosecution of individuals or companies that hire illegals…that’s who you go after not the poor freakin illegals. Also they sneak over the boarder, hide in the shadows, work their asses off. They aren’t following the path of the good ole White Christian founders of this nation, guns blazing, killing and cheating the native Americans. This happened just a few generations ago. So to anyone that blames the “illegals” shut the f up.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    callen wrote:
    arthurdent wrote:
    (this is just my opinion, but it's an opinion born out of experience)

    The small county in Kansas I live in has one of the highest percentages of hispanics in the country (about 49%). Most all of them work in the livestock feedlots or packing plants that dominate the area. And a fair chunk of them have a less-than-legal status. I don't have a problem with this, per se, but I have seen the problems it can cause for a community. I've noticed that they have very little involvement in the community, I'm guessing because of their rather transient nature (I go through a new set of neighbors in my apartment complex about once every six months), but part of it is also that a chunk of these people don't WANT to learn english and don't want to assimilate. A disturbingly high percentage of the school children are being taught english as a second language, which puts further strain on an already stressed and under-funded school system. I'll go to walmart to pick something up, and it's like going to the zoo. The little kids are pretty much left to run amok throughout the store and if you aren't really careful, you'll run one of them over (I've been tempted a few times). I see people who can't speak a lick of english going through the checkout line waving around wads of food stamps. It's so bad that it's almost impossible to get a job out here if you aren't fluent in spanish. I see brand spankin new Escalades that have been tricked out to the hilt parked in front of some of the dirtiest ghetto houses.

    I've had this conversation with several people that work in agriculture, and we've come to the conclusion that there's a difference between those who work in the fields and those who work in livestock. The field workers are some of the best, most hard working laborers you can find, but the livestock ones are some of the laziest, and seem to think that they're somehow entitled to things which they aren't.

    Bust most of all, I want these idiots to learn english so they'll quit fucking up my order at the drive-through.
    Just love when someone tells me how bad illegal immigrants are for them or this country then they take their car to car wash, have “lawn service” cut their grass cause they’re too fkn fat to do it themselves as they go to local Mexican restaurant and stuff their faces with flour tortilla’s. The illegal alien has more balls than all of us. They spend every penny they have, or more go into debt, risk their lifes to get here to earn $6 freakin dollars an hour….and we BLAME them?!?!? Are you kidding me. Don’t blame the drug. In the US we have almost NO prosecution of individuals or companies that hire illegals…that’s who you go after not the poor freakin illegals. Also they sneak over the boarder, hide in the shadows, work their asses off. They aren’t following the path of the good ole White Christian founders of this nation, guns blazing, killing and cheating the native Americans. This happened just a few generations ago. So to anyone that blames the “illegals” widen your outlook.
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  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    metsfan wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Legal is good, illegal is bad.
    Exactly
    +2

    I wish it was so black and white.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    cosmo.....decaf man decaf ! ha ha I was like 18 or19 years old and not afraid of much back then, it's funny how you think you know it all at that age but don't really know shit...btw arent you admitting that you are a rat just by asking me those questions... I think I see where your coming from :lol:

    Godfather.
    ...
    It all comes to a question of 'Character'.
    And age 18,19 is an adult and not much of an excuse for a lack moral character. You claim to have witnessed criminal activity and just let it slide... then, complain about that EXACT criminal activity later in life. It points to you either being morally bankrupt at age 19, a hypocrite or the story you just told was a complete fabrication. Which is it? If it is something other, then, please, enlighten me. It was your story in which you paint yourself as someone who not only witnessed a crime and chose not to report it... but actually PARTICIPATE in it by accepting payment from the criminal.
    And how am I a 'Rat' for pointing out questions on a story you offered up freely?

    you don't know much about the world around you do you ..you need to get out and give your computer a break,giving people a hard time on this forum seem to be your life.....sad.

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    ...and I looked back at him and he was handing me a hand full of weed saying vominos (sp) and real quick I knew we had come to have a beer on the wrong night

    You mean you went there on the 'right' night?

    no...why do you say that ?

    Godfather.