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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    unsung said:


    Does this sum it up?
    Sums up stupid. I guess you don’t recall Obama’s nickname, Deporter in Chief and the outrage by the left directed at him for his enforcement of immigration law? Not surprising.
    Bush and Clinton deported more people than Obama.  I had never heard Obama called that?
    https://www.economist.com/leaders/2014/02/08/barack-obama-deporter-in-chief

    https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/upfront/2017/01/barack-obama-deporter-chief-170113105930345.html

    https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/national-council-of-la-raza-janet-murguia-barack-obama-deporter-in-chief-immigration-104217
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  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    PJ_Soul said:
    said every liberal ever.

    I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?

    Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff? 
    Again??

  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,175
    my2hands said:
    The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding 
    Are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. I feel it’s worse towards conservatives!  There’s probably 5 posts per page in this thread alone where idiot, moron, stupid, or anything along those lines is used to describe folks with different opinions than the author of the post
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    my2hands said:
    The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding 
    Are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. I feel it’s worse towards conservatives!  There’s probably 5 posts per page in this thread alone where idiot, moron, stupid, or anything along those lines is used to describe folks with different opinions than the author of the post
    I don’t recall any liberals telling anyone to fuck off though. And yea, when confronted with facts to disprove your firmly held opinion? What should those folks be called? Help me out here.
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  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    unsung said:


    Thankfully when Al Gore created the internet he made a wonderful feature called archiving...
    2014?? That can't be true?? Who was president then? This craps been happening under every administration for years and years and years. They only let the immigrants in when they need them here...sad.

    It looks like something was signed for a resolution to the separation of children from parents. Can that be talked about now.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,175
    my2hands said:
    The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding 
    Are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. I feel it’s worse towards conservatives!  There’s probably 5 posts per page in this thread alone where idiot, moron, stupid, or anything along those lines is used to describe folks with different opinions than the author of the post
    I don’t recall any liberals telling anyone to fuck off though. And yea, when confronted with facts to disprove your firmly held opinion? What should those folks be called? Help me out here.
    Lol that’s selective memory then.  Here’s a fun game: do a search of the word “fuck” in the amt thread.  There’s a whole slew you can pick from.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    This conversation would go so much more smoothly if everyone would read what has already been posted before posting.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,337
    edited June 2018
    This conversation would go so much more smoothly if everyone would read what has already been posted before posting.
    Well, it shouldn't surprise anyone that Trump supporters don't bother informing their opinion before they post. If they did they wouldn't be Trump supporters.
    Post edited by dignin on
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
    unsung said:
    brianlux said:

    unsung said:
    I think I'll stop paying taxes so this welfare for criminals won't be funded.  Will you all complain that my kids are left without a father when the govt rips me out of their lives?
    Look for the hacksaw blade in the lower layer of the cake.  :wink:
    Yeah exactly.  Not theft...at all.
    Well, I was making a dumb joke.  The fact is, that if you refuse to pay taxes, you very well could end up in jail and it's highly unlikely anyone will get away with smuggling in a hacksaw blade for you to cut the bars with.  I take it you do not use road or public building paid for by taxes, correct? 

    But we're way off topic here.
    my2hands said:
    The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding 
    Like any large group, there are always going to be some bad apples.  It's unavoidable.  There are definitely some rather clueless liberals, and no doubt some knee-jerk liberals, and probably even some very selfish liberals, but there sure as hell aren't very many liberals clueless or knee-jerk or selfish enough to have voted for a jerk like Trump.  I know of none.
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    said every liberal ever.

    I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?

    Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff? 
    Again??


    Seriously?

    You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.

    In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true. 

    I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly.
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  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    PJ_Soul said:
    said every liberal ever.

    I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?

    Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff? 
    Again??


    Seriously?

    You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.

    In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true. 

    I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly.

    Yeah.... right....You know I go by hunch or gut??? only??
    Hmmnnn....

    Maybe you should stalk... the other posters to see what was said from them. The meme was already posted by someone else. I just added to it. There are plenty of negative posts about both sides. Worry about yourself and what you're posting instead of attempting to accuse me of making stuff up.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    Polygraphs, sketchy guys, bears, oh my!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    PJ_Soul said:
    said every liberal ever.

    I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?

    Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff? 
    Again??


    Seriously?

    You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.

    In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true. 

    I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly.

    Yeah.... right....You know I go by hunch or gut??? only??
    Hmmnnn....

    Maybe you should stalk... the other posters to see what was said from them. The meme was already posted by someone else. I just added to it. There are plenty of negative posts about both sides. Worry about yourself and what you're posting instead of attempting to accuse me of making stuff up.
    There's always the trusty polygraph test like I once offered a manager to take along with me. She declined.


    That's kind of a non sequitur, but okay.....

    Your manager was right to decline. They're unreliable. 
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  • LongestRoadLongestRoad Posts: 477
    Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
    No, it was a contrived crisis enacted by Team Trump Treason’s heartless and weak stupidity. He could of done the same with a phone call. He’s an idiot.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,309
    Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
    No, it was a contrived crisis enacted by Team Trump Treason’s heartless and weak stupidity. He could of done the same with a phone call. He’s an idiot.
    Agreed.  No way should Trump get Kudos for this, no way.  He could say, "I'm sorry, that was a bad mistake" in every language on earth and I wouldn't believe it.  No friggin way.
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    edited June 2018
    Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
    Happy? Not how I would describe it I guess. It's unfortunate no matter what, but non-separation is better. As for your second question, no. You don't get credit for an issue you created. Forgiveness could be a possibility if there was ever any indication a mistake was made, but we all know that's never going to happen.

    How about you, happy? Do you think he deserves kudos?

    You've spent most of your time the last few posts just poking at the hornet nest for fun. Maybe a serious response this time?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_Soul said:
    said every liberal ever.

    I bet that's just a real piss off, eh? I mean... when your modus operandi is making arguments which are not factually grounded in any way, shape, or form... and then facts are presented which completely destroy your assertions? And then those stupid liberals point it out?

    Come to think of it... are you sure 'every liberal ever' has expressed such? You're doing it again, eh? Making up stuff? 
    Again??


    Seriously?

    You're in the midst of an argument where you essentially mocked liberals for their well-known practice of sticking to the facts. Making such a mockery would naturally lead one to assume you are a person that would prefer one should go 'with their gut' or 'on a hunch' when making statements they think are true versus check for validity beforehand.

    In the process of your mockery... you make a bold claim citing 'every liberal ever' has said: "Facts?? We don't need no stinking facts." Again (to your double question marked and one word question)... going with your gut (or on a hunch) and making a blanket statement you deem to be true. 

    I mean... exactly how can you establish 'every liberal ever' has said that? Come on now. That's silly.

    Yeah.... right....You know I go by hunch or gut??? only??
    Hmmnnn....

    Maybe you should stalk... the other posters to see what was said from them. The meme was already posted by someone else. I just added to it. There are plenty of negative posts about both sides. Worry about yourself and what you're posting instead of attempting to accuse me of making stuff up.
    There's always the trusty polygraph test like I once offered a manager to take along with me. She declined.

    'Stalk' the other posters? So in other words I'm stalking you?

    Yah. No. I've been a consistent poster in this thread and have earned the right to comment on something stupid from a 'lurker' if I see it.
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  • Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
    This is like asking if people are happy the guy with the crowbar has stopped pummelling the feeble old man with it. 
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  • In the meantime... the president and all his men are displaying private school educations are overrated:


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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,822
    Ah yeah.. So are you all happy that the president signed an order to keep families together while going through the process? Does Trump get kudos for that.
    Nope.....

    Trump's executive order only protects against family separation for 20 days

    Though President Trump declared that the executive order he signed Wednesday would "solve" the problem of family separation while parents are prosecuted for illegal border crossing, the order is really only good for 20 days, CBS News' Paula Reid reports, citing a source familiar with the drafting of the order. The order does not override the 1993 Flores v. Reno Supreme Court case, which says that detained migrant children cannot be held in government detention facilities for more than 20 days.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,366
    my2hands said:
    The level of demonization of "liberals" in this country is astounding 
    Are you being sarcastic, I can’t tell. I feel it’s worse towards conservatives!  There’s probably 5 posts per page in this thread alone where idiot, moron, stupid, or anything along those lines is used to describe folks with different opinions than the author of the post
    I don’t recall any liberals telling anyone to fuck off though. And yea, when confronted with facts to disprove your firmly held opinion? What should those folks be called? Help me out here.
    Lol that’s selective memory then.  Here’s a fun game: do a search of the word “fuck” in the amt thread.  There’s a whole slew you can pick from.
    You were right, that was fun! Almost as fun as connecting dots! So, what should we call folks who dismiss facts repeatedly and cling to their disproven held opinion? Should there be special names for those that repeatedly dismiss facts and cling to their factless opinions despite overwhelming presentation of facts? Come on now, help me out here.
     
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    In the meantime... the president and all his men are displaying private school educations are overrated:


    This is what happens when you can't fill key positions like communications director and always think you're the smartest person in the room.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:
    said every liberal ever.
    You realize my post (and this response) were directed at you because you came into the thread with false information even though the FACTS had been presented.  Then, when asked for a link to verify your blatantly false claims, you did not provide one. 
    Busch League.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2018
    rgambs said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    said every liberal ever.
    You realize my post (and this response) were directed at you because you came into the thread with false information even though the FACTS had been presented.  Then, when asked for a link to verify your blatantly false claims, you did not provide one. 
    Busch League.
    Don't you mean "trump league""
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,175
    Anyone else feel like it was Melania and Ivanka who pressured him to do stop this? I feel like he would have kept going for a while with this disaster.
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,934
    This administration actually took toddlers away from their parents without any thought on how to get them reunited with biological parents , that is theft they stole parents kids ..there is no plan in place on how to reunite these kids with parents!
    I’d bet that Stephen Miller has several Comet Pizza franchises around the country, strategically located near detention centers. Where’s 3D and Julian Asstrange, remember him?, when you need the purloined emails to track them down?
    Exactly where are the pizza theorists on this issue !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,934
    unsung said:


    Thankfully when Al Gore created the internet he made a wonderful feature called archiving...
    2014?? That can't be true?? Who was president then? This craps been happening under every administration for years and years and years. They only let the immigrants in when they need them here...sad.

    It looks like something was signed for a resolution to the separation of children from parents. Can that be talked about now.
    Yes let’s talk about the toddlers in captivity with no plan in site to reunite them with their parents , let’s talk about toddlers crying with no one in site to console them yes please point me to a link where this happened under Obama or Bush or Clinton I want proof that toddlers were being essentially kidnapped from parents ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,876
    Anyone else feel like it was Melania and Ivanka who pressured him to do stop this? I feel like he would have kept going for a while with this disaster.
    The articles I've read have pretty much confirmed this through unnamed staffers close to the details surrounding the events leading up to Trump backing down.
    It's a hopeless situation...
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