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Halifax2TheMax

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

tempo_n_groove

mickeyrat said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.

Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.

The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.

VIOLENT CRIME. Local jurisdictions not making arrests for petty crimes like theft (big arrest last week. white couple, 8 million dollar theft ring.) for whatever reasons, take it up with that jurisdiction.

I forgot to add violent crimes to that one too. My bad.

Not everything gets reported...

tempo_n_groove

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.

Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.

The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.

Do you have a source for the “amount of crime that doesn’t get reported is astounding?” What does “scooter central” look like? Post a pic.

I saw a house burn down once. Arson is out of control.

Stories on NPR and their reporting.  I brought it up previously too.

Are there statistics on it? No.  Why? I don't know if you could quantify it or even fact check it.  All I have is the stories, segments and reporting NPR has done.  This is for NY also.  Not sure about the rest of the country?

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Halifax2TheMax

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

lindamarie73 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office.

Ha,Ha,Ha, Ha,Ha….this place is the best!!!  Always can count on it 4 a good Chuckle …Anyone who believes that nonsense above has more shit in their Brains then our senile President.  

Care to refute it with facts from a credible source or do you prefer to live in an alternate reality? BOO! That senile president hasn’t had liens placed on his properties. Let us know how the farewell soirée at Mar-I-Lieo goes, eh? Mahalo.

The amount of crime that doesn't get reported is astounding.  The laws have also changed so arrests aren't made anymore for things that would have in the past.  It's ok for the homeless to piss in the train car now and not get arrested.  True story.

At the same time, maybe it's me, I don't have fear traveling the subways. It's a different story when i'm deep in the bronx and it's scooter central though.

Do you have a source for the “amount of crime that doesn’t get reported is astounding?” What does “scooter central” look like? Post a pic.

I saw a house burn down once. Arson is out of control.

Stories on NPR and their reporting.  I brought it up previously too.

Are there statistics on it? No.  Why? I don't know if you could quantify it or even fact check it.  All I have is the stories, segments and reporting NPR has done.  This is for NY also.  Not sure about the rest of the country?

Take a guess on how many felony assaults were reported on NYC subways last year. Just a guess, don’t google it. Guess. 

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Then you’re for amending 2A, eh?

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Then you’re for amending 2A, eh?

Why would you need to? The 2a doesn't guarantee the right without background checks.

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Then you’re for amending 2A, eh?

Why would you need to? The 2a doesn't guarantee the right without background checks.

Sorry it’s difficult for you to follow a conversation over three or four days on the same page of a thread. I’ll be sure to quote posters to make it easier for you.

The constitution does not refer to “citizens.” It refers to the “people.” The judge’s ruling has the potential to reach SCOTUS, from a “person” with standing. If SCOTUS rules the way you’d, general you, expect, it will toss the ability of states to regulate firearms, something they’ve already done previously on behest of the NRA and the gun lobby. But because this is “the other,” I expect them to rule differently, exposing their hypocrisy and political agenda implementation. So, if you only want “citizens” to have legal access to firearms or “immigrants” charged with a crime for violating the law, you’ll have to amend 2A to reflect the right of “citizens” to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

tempo_n_groove

And the circle continues.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Sorry it’s difficult for you to follow a conversation over three or four days on the same page of a thread. I’ll be sure to quote posters to make it easier for you.

Given your history of randomly bringing up someone's emails or laptop as your sarcastic reply to a valid point when no one has mentioned either for months, its not unreasonable to think you're doing the same thing with crime when no one has talked about crime for several days.

nicknyr15

I couldn’t think of a bigger waste of time than to engage with this poster. Wow. 

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Then you’re for amending 2A, eh?

Why would you need to? The 2a doesn't guarantee the right without background checks.

Sorry it’s difficult for you to follow a conversation over three or four days on the same page of a thread. I’ll be sure to quote posters to make it easier for you.

The constitution does not refer to “citizens.” It refers to the “people.” The judge’s ruling has the potential to reach SCOTUS, from a “person” with standing. If SCOTUS rules the way you’d, general you, expect, it will toss the ability of states to regulate firearms, something they’ve already done previously on behest of the NRA and the gun lobby. But because this is “the other,” I expect them to rule differently, exposing their hypocrisy and political agenda implementation. So, if you only want “citizens” to have legal access to firearms or “immigrants” charged with a crime for violating the law, you’ll have to amend 2A to reflect the right of “citizens” to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

I can't recall in my lifetime where a state lost the ability to regulate a firearm.
And the states ability to do that is not connected to the definition of "people." Whether it applies to all people, just citizens, or anyone here legally, that has no merit on a state to put reasonable restrictions on firearms. They are two separate arguments. 

mace1229

nicknyr15 said:

I couldn’t think of a bigger waste of time than to engage with this poster. Wow. 

You apparently don't have staff meetings at your work.  I envy you. 

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Then you’re for amending 2A, eh?

Why would you need to? The 2a doesn't guarantee the right without background checks.

Sorry it’s difficult for you to follow a conversation over three or four days on the same page of a thread. I’ll be sure to quote posters to make it easier for you.

The constitution does not refer to “citizens.” It refers to the “people.” The judge’s ruling has the potential to reach SCOTUS, from a “person” with standing. If SCOTUS rules the way you’d, general you, expect, it will toss the ability of states to regulate firearms, something they’ve already done previously on behest of the NRA and the gun lobby. But because this is “the other,” I expect them to rule differently, exposing their hypocrisy and political agenda implementation. So, if you only want “citizens” to have legal access to firearms or “immigrants” charged with a crime for violating the law, you’ll have to amend 2A to reflect the right of “citizens” to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

I can't recall in my lifetime where a state lost the ability to regulate a firearm.
And the states ability to do that is not connected to the definition of "people." Whether it applies to all people, just citizens, or anyone here legally, that has no merit on a state to put reasonable restrictions on firearms. They are two separate arguments. 

Then what was Heller about? You brought up that the illegal immigrant wasn’t able to follow the law as it related to possession because they were not a citizen and what that requires. Hence, why if you want the firearms laws enforced the way you want, have to be a citizen, you’ll need to amend 2A. Wasn’t Tempo’s concern about the law being that of you have to have a FOID card to possess in Illinois? And the immigrant didn’t? The judge tossed the charge.

The Court ruled that the Second Amendment was incorporated by the due process section of the Fourteenth Amendment and individuals were therefore granted a constitutional right to keep firearms in their homes for self-protection. This right, the Court stated, was greater than the states' power to restrict it.

Halifax2TheMax

Don’t forget to use the quote feature so everyone can follow along. Or not.

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Why are stories about “locked up deodorant”, “needles in parks”, “prescription drugs found in back yards and cars crashing through fences into houses”, “homeless people pissing in subways,” or the ultimate crime committers, “scooter central” in the “Your Opinion About Immigration” thread?

Nevermind, I know why.

Its because you seemingly randomly posted without without it being a response to someone:
"Buh buh buh immigrants!

From a Lincoln Project twat that micky posted:

3. In every year of the Biden administration, violent crime has dropped. According to the latest estimates, 2023 is on track to have one of the lowest violent crime rates in half a century. America is safer today than when Biden took office."

Bigger question is why bring up crime, then ask why are people talking about crime in an immigration thread, then imply its because of race.

"Who did a march madness bracket?"
Someone responds.
"Why are you talking about march madness in the immigration thread?"

In the context of our friend Sheky and their faux news fauxrage stories of Venezuelan gangs and Tempo’s snark post about “moving on from guns”, coupled with the knowledge that less crime is committed by immigrants than native born, and that overall, crime is down if you care to look past the rag NY Post or the faux outrage channels. Context, you know? Which was then followed by Tempo’s seeming disbelief at an immigrant getting off on a gun crime and the slippery slope of all the benefits of being a citizen being bestowed upon immigrants, legal and otherwise. Again, context.

Regarding your NCAA brackets analogy, it’d be relevant if that kid from Oakland who hit 10 three pointers was an immigrant, legal or otherwise. So, to me, stories about deodorant, needles in parks, prescription drugs in back yards, cars crashing through fences, homeless pissing in subways, etc., in the absence of knowing or posting that they were caused by immigrants, legal or otherwise, aren’t in context.

I guess this is what happens when your world view, general you, is shaped by the faux news fauxrage machine and the NY Post. You, again general you, can post every ill that ever happens in this thread because it must be the immigrants dragging America down, despite evidence to the contrary.

Where did you move to? Nowhere in America is safe.

Tempo made that gun comment after you brought of crime., so it had nothing to do with you bringing up crime.
You are correct, context does matter. When you posted about crime, no one that day or the day before had discussed crime. The discussion was the census. Then out of nowhere you post about crime. And when people respond, you imply we're racists for talking about crime. There was no context to your post, If you were responding to someone from several days and pages earlier, then it would be helpful to quote them. But it appears you were not, just making another random post, then accusing someone else for bringing up the topic when they respond. 
Unless, what else would you mean by "never mind, I know why"?

Or maybe follow along and read our friend Sheky’s posts?

Ive  been around here long enough to read what “stories” get posted and in what context.

So, if the fear of immigration isn’t crime related, what is it related to? You claimed that “responsible” gun owners want “responsible” gun laws in this thread in reference to Tempo’s perplexity of the immigrant not being charged with a gun crime. Do your or his voting record reflect that? Did you contact your representative about the immigration bill that wasn’t allowed a vote? I remember you shared a letter and response from a Congress person but don’t recall the issue. Tempo gladly donates to the NRA which is hilarious to me in the context of his perplexity.

So, despite evidence to the contrary, why are these seemingly random “crimes” being posted in the Opinion About Immigration thread? The deodorant story I took as a reference to the shoplifting crime sprees that has certain posters concerned and yet again, it’s difficult to quantify because the industry uses the term “shrink” as it relates to loss but includes shoplifting, employee theft, inventory issues and distribution mishaps. But again, it’s down slightly from the previous year and the incidents played on a loop by faux for weeks are committed by professional theft rings.

But sure, blame immigrants and immigration or infer it. It’s an old trope.

If you are responding to someone or something that was posted days earlier and you are worried about context, it helps to quote them. Because just posting about crime when no one has mentioned crime for days and the current conversation is something completely unrelated, the only logical assumption is you are just posting to rile up the topic with your "but but but....." comments. The topic of crime and immigration had long been over before you brought it up, then subtly accuse us of racism for responding. 

 I can't speak for others, but I don't relate those types of crimes with illegal immigrants. I've witnessed shoplifting more in the last couples years than I have probably the rest of my life, and I can't say from my experience either I could blame a single racial or ethnic group or immigration status.

I also don't think an illegal immigrant should own a firearm. Not just because they are illegal, but because I do believe in certain checks when purchasing a gun that are not possible if you are undocumented. 

Sorry it’s difficult for you to follow a conversation over three or four days on the same page of a thread. I’ll be sure to quote posters to make it easier for you.

Given your history of randomly bringing up someone's emails or laptop as your sarcastic reply to a valid point when no one has mentioned either for months, its not unreasonable to think you're doing the same thing with crime when no one has talked about crime for several days.

To a “valid point?” Seriously? Let me know when Hunter or Brandon are indicted or impeached for those “valid points” you infer upon emails and laptops.

Did I do this correctly, quoting?