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Lol. What article did you read or did you warp this one into something else. Orrr, are you hoping someone is going to go by what you just wrote and not bother reading the article?HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
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this article. please sum up what you got from it.LongestRoad said:
Lol. What article did you read or did you warp this one into something else. Orrr, are you hoping someone is going to go by what you just wrote and not bother reading the article?HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I'm falling for Trump's bullshit?dignin said:
Say's the guy falling for Trump's bullshit.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
Anyone with even a basic understanding of this situation knows that Trump's administration caused the events at the border last weekend.
Fucking hilarious, you have no idea what you're talking about0 -
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.0 -
“Other than indigenous peoples...our country was built on and will continue to be built on immigration. he said. “But if you cross our borders illegally, you will be breaking the law. You will be apprehended. And after that, you will be placed in detention. “HughFreakingDillon said:
this article. please sum up what you got from it.LongestRoad said:
Lol. What article did you read or did you warp this one into something else. Orrr, are you hoping someone is going to go by what you just wrote and not bother reading the article?HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
that’s word for word from Boissonnault.
Sounds the the same as what all the Canadians on here are bitching about what the US is doing. Read how many they approved out of the number they deported. It sounds like they keep better track of who is there. more than we do. And deport0 -
Prepare how? Make tent cities and bring hundreds of government workers to the site?HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
I wouldn't want that to happen, Mexico doesn't want that to happen either. I don't think we should be responsible for thousands of people, while yes we knew were coming, never knew exactly when.0 -
there are immigrants that are losing their protected status and are trying to flee to Canada. our officials are warning these people and trying to get the word out that isn't how it works. and if they show up they will be processed. this is how it's done. not shooting at people with rubber bullets and tear gas.my2hands said:
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
I'm not really sure how this doesn't get across: no one I've seen has suggested people should just be "let in" to the US, or anywhere for that matter. we are not claiming that Canada is just opening the fucking door. process them as you can.
JUST DON'T FUCKING SHOOT AT THEM.
it also states how little the US is actually doing when it comes to processing asylum seekers and refugees right now. it's shameful.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Are you f’cking kidding me. If I go stand at the border of Canada and start throwing rocks and rushing the f’cking border. What would happen? Would they be bringing in the Tim Horton’s again or shooting me??!?!?HughFreakingDillon said:
there are immigrants that are losing their protected status and are trying to flee to Canada. our officials are warning these people and trying to get the word out that isn't how it works. and if they show up they will be processed. this is how it's done. not shooting at people with rubber bullets and tear gas.my2hands said:
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
I'm not really sure how this doesn't get across: no one I've seen has suggested people should just be "let in" to the US, or anywhere for that matter. we are not claiming that Canada is just opening the fucking door. process them as you can.
JUST DON'T FUCKING SHOOT AT THEM.
it also states how little the US is actually doing when it comes to processing asylum seekers and refugees right now. it's shameful.0 -
I honestly would like to see video of how many of them did that, and what were the circumstances. were they the instigators?LongestRoad said:
Are you f’cking kidding me. If I go stand at the border of Canada and start throwing rocks and rushing the f’cking border. What would happen? Would they be bringing in the Tim Horton’s again or shooting me??!?!?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I don't consider someone who entered the system illegal and I don't think the law does either....oftenreading said:
You did not pay attention in class. “Illegal” immigrants do indeed get health care, education, etc, once they go through the preliminary registration and before their claim is heard.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
And then they'd run screaming out of the country, under the false impression that they had the misfortune to arrive in a country with the worst taste in coffee on the face of the planet.Meltdown99 said:
We'd greet them with Tim Horton's coffee and Timbits of course...LongestRoad said:
I gotta ask, what would you do if you were in that situation that they border patrol agents were in?LongestRoad said:
So you want to blame the border patrol agents for firing tear gas instead of bullets into people throwing rocks at them attempting to illegally cross the border while using women and children as shields?Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I know.LongestRoad said:
They weren’t at the American border either until very recently. I love the arm chair nations telling us how to do it and what we’re doing wrong.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
The nerve eh? Telling you that shooting canisters of tear gas at those filthy bastards isn’t cool? Very unchristian of them.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I remember when Canada used to pay people to go live there. They didn’t have enough citizens.0
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?????? It says, as HFD is attempting to point out, that Canada isn't fucking attacking women and children with force. It's saying that Canada is doing exactly what most here are calling for with the USA. Don't fucking treat the asylum seekers like an invading army. Treat them like people crossing the border illegally. I.e. don't attack them. Process them. NOBODY on these boards has called for just letting people walk freely across the border, and I can never understand why some keep pretending anyone is suggesting such a thing.my2hands said:
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
and when people claim there are too many people to process at one port, consider how quickly and efficiently the ACLU mobilized their folks to process and help all of the people ACROSS THE GLOBE and locally affected by the travel ban ("it's not a ban" "it is a ban" "it's not a ban" "it is a ban"). A group of volunteer lawyers could do what apparently the federal government of the United States could not.
bullshit. Trump just didn't want to. and some of you are lapping it up.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Exactly, and it's pathetic. And scary... Trump's propaganda works just so well on some people, they don't even know it's happening.HughFreakingDillon said:and when people claim there are too many people to process at one port, consider how quickly and efficiently the ACLU mobilized their folks to process and help all of the people ACROSS THE GLOBE and locally affected by the travel ban ("it's not a ban" "it is a ban" "it's not a ban" "it is a ban"). A group of volunteer lawyers could do what apparently the federal government of the United States could not.
bullshit. Trump just didn't want to. and some of you are lapping it up.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Just to put in perspective what the difference in numbers are of people crossing between the US and Canada.PJ_Soul said:
?????? It says, as HFD is attempting to point out, that Canada isn't fucking attacking women and children with force. It's saying that Canada is doing exactly what most here are calling for with the USA. Don't fucking treat the asylum seekers like an invading army. Treat them like people crossing the border illegally. I.e. don't attack them. Process them. NOBODY on these boards has called for just letting people walk freely across the border, and I can never understand why some keep pretending anyone is suggesting such a thing.my2hands said:
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
Canada saw an "influx" in border crossings and upped the avg daily crossing to 183 a day compared to the US 1000 per day.
There are more than 5000 in Tijuana right now. That's how many people crossed in 30 days into all of Canada...0 -
yes, but we don't have the same resources for processing these types of things as you do.tempo_n_groove said:
Just to put in perspective what the difference in numbers are of people crossing between the US and Canada.PJ_Soul said:
?????? It says, as HFD is attempting to point out, that Canada isn't fucking attacking women and children with force. It's saying that Canada is doing exactly what most here are calling for with the USA. Don't fucking treat the asylum seekers like an invading army. Treat them like people crossing the border illegally. I.e. don't attack them. Process them. NOBODY on these boards has called for just letting people walk freely across the border, and I can never understand why some keep pretending anyone is suggesting such a thing.my2hands said:
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
Canada saw an "influx" in border crossings and upped the avg daily crossing to 183 a day compared to the US 1000 per day.
There are more than 5000 in Tijuana right now. That's how many people crossed in 30 days into all of Canada...By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
You don’t think throwing rocks assaulting border patrol is wrong or should be dealt with? Everything that you all are bitching about the US was comparable to what Canada does. Canada has a lot of room but still deports.PJ_Soul said:
?????? It says, as HFD is attempting to point out, that Canada isn't fucking attacking women and children with force. It's saying that Canada is doing exactly what most here are calling for with the USA. Don't fucking treat the asylum seekers like an invading army. Treat them like people crossing the border illegally. I.e. don't attack them. Process them. NOBODY on these boards has called for just letting people walk freely across the border, and I can never understand why some keep pretending anyone is suggesting such a thing.my2hands said:
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:
Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obviousHughFreakingDillon said:
so what is america doing about the immigration issues in Europe right now?my2hands said:
no, it's notThe Juggler said:
These guys should maybe sit the next few plays out.PJ_Soul said:
They aren't at the Canadian border.LongestRoad said:
What has the Canadian leader offered?Halifax2TheMax said:
Team Trump Treason could have called a cabinet meeting and directed his SOS to work with the OAS and UN to head this off and offer up US aid and assistance. That’s what a world leader would have done.my2hands said:
from what I've learned here from my canadian friends undocumented immigrants cant get a drivers license, attend school, or get medical care in Canada... even childrenHughFreakingDillon said:
help with what? y'all out of tear gas? maybe we could give some pointers on how to kick puppies or punch babies until they cry too.my2hands said:
No doubt, never said any different.HughFreakingDillon said:
they're also a little more complicated than "brown man invasion"my2hands said:
Ok bud, tell that to the American public.The Juggler said:
nnnnnope.my2hands said:Having several hundred trying to bum-rush the border sure doesn't help their cause... and certainly doesn't hurt Trump's message either
Trying to overwhelm and storm through the border by force might even be called an invasion by some
Things are a little more complicated than "orange man, bad"
Canada can hop in and help at any time
Whats that about kicking puppies?
My point is it's easy to Monday Morning QB when it's not your border and not your problem. You think its a bad thing Americans don't want hordes of people just rushing across the border?
Nobody questions the adults that try to bum-rush the American border by force with children? Its just the evil Americans fault right? What are they supposed to do, high five everybody as they run past them? Lol
A VAST majority of America has no issue with immigration if done legitimately and legally, but to even discuss it people are quick to label that person as "afraid of the other" or some dumb shit... there is some real Trump Derangement Syndrome going on now, it's either let everyone stampede in or you're a fucking nazi. Ridiculous.
Keep it up, youre playing right into their hands, and there are more Trumps coming in the future, they will just be better politicians.
What a stupid argument.
the central american failed states and ensuing crime is a hemispheric issue, not an American issue... the reason they are coming here is because they know America has generally lax laws and approach to immigration and undocumented immigrants compared to other wealthy nations in the hemisphere... in short, they know social benefits will be available to them and that they and their children can stay if they give birth... that coupled with the presence of a thriving Hispanic culture in America is why they are coming here, but that doesnt mean it should just be America's problem...
I was honestly shocked to learn from my friends here how tight the Canadian system is compared to us... makes it seem like our sysytem is ripe for abuse and taking advantage of, because frankly it is
What are the other leaders in the hemisphere doing to help in Central America? What are they doing about the migration crisis? Besides pointing the finger while we do all the heavy lifting, again
yeah, makes as much sense.
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.0 -
Apparently we don't either considering it takes 45 days to get filed through the system for asylum hearings. I think that was the number of days, it might be more.HughFreakingDillon said:
yes, but we don't have the same resources for processing these types of things as you do.tempo_n_groove said:Just to put in perspective what the difference in numbers are of people crossing between the US and Canada.
Canada saw an "influx" in border crossings and upped the avg daily crossing to 183 a day compared to the US 1000 per day.
There are more than 5000 in Tijuana right now. That's how many people crossed in 30 days into all of Canada...0 -
tempo_n_groove said:
Just to put in perspective what the difference in numbers are of people crossing between the US and Canada.PJ_Soul said:
?????? It says, as HFD is attempting to point out, that Canada isn't fucking attacking women and children with force. It's saying that Canada is doing exactly what most here are calling for with the USA. Don't fucking treat the asylum seekers like an invading army. Treat them like people crossing the border illegally. I.e. don't attack them. Process them. NOBODY on these boards has called for just letting people walk freely across the border, and I can never understand why some keep pretending anyone is suggesting such a thing.my2hands said:
That is absolutely not what the article says...HughFreakingDillon said:
that article pretty much sums up what we're all stating: the US president is fucking this up big time and other countries are actually doing something to try to contain and help the issue.LongestRoad said:
Here’s some Canadian info complete with a picture of what it looks like immigrating illegally. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/06/08/canada-warns-immigrants-u-s-heading-north-border/683297002/HughFreakingDillon said:
the US had weeks to prepare. Trump did nothing but stoke fears of an invasion. and then sent the military in (some say illegally).mace1229 said:
The issue is a few thousand all at once in a single location. There aren't enough staff to process them, or places to shelter them while they wait. So then what happens? Either we let them in while we process them, most to never been properly processed after that, or make them wait weeks outside the boarder while we go through the thousands. Everything that TJ's mayor is complaining about is exactly what the problem would be wherever this caravan lands.HughFreakingDillon said:
how is legally processing a few thousand asylum seekers that difficult, and if the US is so bloody awesome at everything, why do you need canada's help? I thought we were useless little brothers to you folks who need constant protection?my2hands said:Different continent in a different hemisphere. You guys are really struggling, because the point is obvious
We do process thousands without issue, but that is spread over 2500 miles and a few weeks.
Canada saw an "influx" in border crossings and upped the avg daily crossing to 183 a day compared to the US 1000 per day.
There are more than 5000 in Tijuana right now. That's how many people crossed in 30 days into all of Canada...Everyone knows that. And the USA has 10 times the people. 10 times the people, 10 times the immigrants to deal with, WAY more money to spend on it, more resources, and MUCH larger government, a much larger pool of people who could help with it.... In any case, I'm not sure what your point is, besides some kind of pointless kind of pissing contest when it comes to Canada and the US, which is weird but keeps coming up.This crisis is happening in AMERICA - what Canada might do if they were on the Mexican border is beyond irrelevant, since we do all understand what America's capabilities are either way. So is your point that 5000 people (only about 1/6 of the number of people who normally enter every month) justifies attacking women and children with military force (and having a true PLAN to do so ahead of time) instead of setting up a processing centres and other services to deal with them humanely? The USA has loads of prisons with that many prisoners, and they manage to feed, house, clothe, educate, and manage all the administration and paperwork for every single of one those prisoners on a constant basis. The entire US government can't manage that kind of work, even temporarily for one group of people?? We ALL know that the US could set up ways to process these people instead of assaulting children if they wanted to. Trump has very specifically chosen not to do that, and instead created another perceived enemy, for his own political benefit. And again, like his propaganda always seems to, it's working like a charm on a whole lot of people. Each time people find a way to somehow excuse this, I'm freshly flabbergasted.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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