“There
we will set our position, which, I repeat, will take into account that
we want to have a good neighbor with the United States, but at the same
time defending the dignity of Mexico,” he said. “We want to act with
great prudence, but at the same time with firmness in the defense of our
sovereignty.”
López
Obrador initially responded harshly to Trump’s latest threat, writing
in a letter to the U.S. president last week that his “America First”
policy was “a fallacy.” But he has since emphasized his interest in
maintaining a warm relationship with Trump.
Trump’s
abrupt tariff threat has imperiled prospects for congressional
ratification of his new North American trade deal. Roughly two weeks
ago, Trump agreed to lift tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from
Mexico and Canada, meeting a condition that Senate Republicans had set
before they would vote on the proposed U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement.
That
trade deal largely preserves the tariff-free trading relations between
the United States and its southern neighbor established in the 1994
North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump routinely disparages as
“one of the worst trade deals ever made.”
As
Trump pushes ahead, business leaders and members of his own party are
scrambling to head off the imposition of new tariffs that would likely
result in retaliatory measures by Mexico targeting American farmers and
manufacturers.
“We are committed to enhancing
the U.S.-Mexico economic relationship and favor more trade, not tariffs.
Imposing tariffs on Mexico does not address the root causes of
migration and jeopardizes our shared economic interests,” the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce and its Mexican counterpart, the Business
Coordinating Council, said in a joint statement.
Through
April, Mexico has been the largest U.S. trading partner. Last year,
when it ranked third behind China and Canada, Mexico shipped almost $350
billion worth of autos, auto parts, industrial machinery and farm
products to U.S. customers.
With little more
than 96 hours remaining before the tariffs are scheduled to take effect,
businesses across the United States are scrambling to draw up
contingency plans.
“We’re very concerned,” said
Adam Briggs, vice president of sales and marketing for Trans-Matic
Manufacturing in Holland, Mich. “Businesses crave certainty. When the
rules are constantly changing, we have a hard time.”
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Using military bases in this way is not new. In 2014, the Obama Administration placed around 7,700 migrant children on bases in Texas, California and Oklahoma, including Fort Sill. The temporary shelters were shuttered after four months. Last year, the government evaluated several military bases to shelter migrants, but ultimately decided not to use the facilities.
A jury in Arizona failed to reach a verdict regarding an activist charged with "conspiracy to transport and harbour migrants", a charge that could have led to a 20 year jail term, for providing water and food to migrants.
Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?
For all the talk that there are less immigrants coming you would think the infrastructure we had in place would be sufficient to handle all those coming across the border. Why is there such a strain on the system right now if the problem is supposedly decreasing?
For all the talk that there are less immigrants coming you would think the infrastructure we had in place would be sufficient to handle all those coming across the border. Why is there such a strain on the system right now if the problem is supposedly decreasing?
This problem has been talked about for years but not much care in it. Now that Trump is President it has become a focal point.
For all the talk that there are less immigrants coming you would think the infrastructure we had in place would be sufficient to handle all those coming across the border. Why is there such a strain on the system right now if the problem is supposedly decreasing?
This problem has been talked about for years but not much care in it. Now that Trump is President it has become a focal point.
Change my mind.
Yes and no, we have a lot more folks coming than ever before. We don’t have enough facilities because the numbers are so much higher than in the past. It starts with more facilities and more judges- the quicker they can get in front of a judge, the quicker they get released into the country, less time in the cages.
starts with the govt. since one side is holding things up, we can’t get more facilities or judges or anything, so it just bottlenecks in the cages.
i feel for the border towns as much as the immigrants. They’re being inundated and overrun and have no where to turn since the govt won’t address the needs.
Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?
Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?
Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.
Yeah but the people who are being rounded up are here illegally which to me is a big difference. “We will be going after individuals who have gone through due process, who have received final orders of deportation," he said. "That will include families. Right now we’re talking about that and what it should look like.”
Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?
Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.
Yeah but the people who are being rounded up are here illegally which to me is a big difference. “We will be going after individuals who have gone through due process, who have received final orders of deportation," he said. "That will include families. Right now we’re talking about that and what it should look like.”
Some people would like to see the US do like Canada and put them up in 3-5 star hotels while we have homeless people and many veterans homeless...not to mention many 1st nation reserves are short of needed money...
Over 100 migrant children returned to 'horrific' border station
"There was nobody taking care of these children... they were not being bathed on a regular basis," Prof Warren Binford of Williamette University in Oregon told the BBC after visiting the Clint facility in Texas.
"Several hundred of the children had been kept in a warehouse that was recently erected on the facility grounds."
"The cells are overcrowded... there's a lice infestation there, there is an influenza outbreak. Children are being locked up in isolation with no adult supervision, who are very, very ill and they're just lying on the ground on mats."
Elora Mukherjee, another lawyer who visited the facility, told CBS News: "They were wearing the same dirty clothing they crossed the border with."
"It is degrading and inhumane and shouldn't be happening in America."
As stories of substandard conditions in facilities have continued to emerge, some volunteers have tried to donate supplies - only to be turned away by border officials.
One group told the Texas Tribune they spent $340 (£267) on diapers, wipes, soaps and toys for the Clint facility, but were completely ignored by all the agents on duty.
Another Clint resident who tried to visit the Clint station told the Tribune: "Knowing what's happening in your community and that you can't give these kids supplies to clean or clothe themselves - it's heartbreaking."
So let me get this straight if I drive up to store with my child in car seat and I run in leaving child in car cops can be called and child services will show up , threatening to take your kid for neglect & endangerment... yet we have children sleeping on concrete floors with feces covered clothing , no toothpaste or toothbrush or soap or clean towels and no one can be charged wtf happened to this country!
Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?
Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.
Yeah but the people who are being rounded up are here illegally which to me is a big difference. “We will be going after individuals who have gone through due process, who have received final orders of deportation," he said. "That will include families. Right now we’re talking about that and what it should look like.”
I don't understand how it matters so much to you. These are desperate people, including children, being held in terrible conditions without trial. In any case, if Cincy was asking if the fact that they are people who tried to illegally cross the border affects whether or not these are concentration camps, the answer is no. I am going to assume that you're not suggesting it's okay to hold people in concentration camps because they tried to cross the border.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Will have to read later. Isn’t there a big difference between round people up from their homes and putting them in a camp to having people come to your border and putting them in a camp?
Concentration camps are defined by the conditions and practices maintained within the camps, not by where the prisoners came from. But FWIW, once ICE starts these raids that Trump keeps threatening, they'll be throwing people who were rounded up from their homes in them as well.
Yeah but the people who are being rounded up are here illegally which to me is a big difference. “We will be going after individuals who have gone through due process, who have received final orders of deportation," he said. "That will include families. Right now we’re talking about that and what it should look like.”
I don't understand how it matters so much to you. These are desperate people, including children, being held in terrible conditions without trial. In any case, if Cincy was asking if the fact that they are people who tried to illegally cross the border affects whether or not these are concentration camps, the answer is no. I am going to assume that you're not suggesting it's okay to hold people in concentration camps because they tried to cross the border.
They’re either rapists, murderers and/or drug dealers or the off-spring of same. Either way, they’re not Mexico’s or Central and South America’s “best.”
Regardless of the word choice (and I personally wouldn't use concentration camps), it continues ot be an awful situation that apparently no one has any political will to actually solve.
MIT has flourished, like
the United States itself, because it has been a magnet for the world’s finest
talent, a global laboratory where people from every culture and background
inspire each other and invent the future, together.
Today, I feel compelled to
share my dismay about some circumstances painfully relevant to our
fellow MIT community members of Chinese descent. And I believe that because we
treasure them as friends and colleagues, their situation and its larger
national context should concern us all.
The situation
As the US and China have struggled with rising tensions, the US government has
raised serious concerns about incidents of alleged academic espionage conducted
by individuals through what is widely understood as a systematic effort of the
Chinese government to acquire high-tech IP.
As head of an institute
that includes MIT Lincoln Laboratory, I could not take national security more
seriously. I am well aware of the risks of academic espionage, and MIT has
established prudent policies to protect against such breaches.
But in managing these
risks, we must take great care not to create a toxic atmosphere of unfounded
suspicion and fear. Looking at cases across the nation, small numbers of
researchers of Chinese background may indeed have acted in bad faith, but they
are the exception and very far from the rule. Yet faculty members, post-docs,
research staff and students tell me that, in their dealings with government
agencies, they now feel unfairly scrutinized, stigmatized and on edge – because
of their Chinese ethnicity alone.
Nothing could be further
from – or more corrosive to – our community’s collaborative strength and
open-hearted ideals. To hear such reports from Chinese and Chinese-American
colleagues is heartbreaking. As scholars, teachers, mentors, inventors and
entrepreneurs, they have been not only exemplary members of our community but
exceptional contributors to American society. I am deeply troubled that they
feel themselves repaid with generalized mistrust and disrespect.
The signal to the world
For those of us who know firsthand the immense value of MIT’s global community
and of the free flow of scientific ideas, it is important to understand the
distress of these colleagues as part of an increasingly loud signal the US is
sending to the world.
Protracted visa delays.
Harsh rhetoric against most immigrants and a range of other groups, because of
religion, race, ethnicity or national origin. Together, such actions and
policies have turned the volume all the way up on the message that the US is closing
the door – that we no longer seek to be a magnet for the world’s most driven
and creative individuals. I believe this message is not consistent with how
America has succeeded. I am certain it is not how the Institute has succeeded.
And we should expect it to have serious long-term costs for the nation and for
MIT.
For the record, let me say
with warmth and enthusiasm to every member of MIT’s intensely global community:
We are glad, proud and fortunate to have you with us! To our alumni around the
world: We remain one community, united by our shared values and ideals! And to
all the rising talent out there: If you are passionate about making a better
world, and if you dream of joining our community, we welcome your creativity,
we welcome your unstoppable energy and aspiration – and we hope you can find a
way to join us.
* * *
In May, the world lost a
brilliant creative force: architect I.M. Pei, MIT Class of 1940. Raised in
Shanghai and Hong Kong, he came to the United States at 17 to seek an
education. He left a legacy of iconic buildings from Boston to Paris and China
to Washington, DC, as well on our own campus. By his own account, he
consciously stayed alive to his Chinese roots all his life. Yet, when he died
at the age of 102, the Boston Globe described him as “the most prominent
American architect of his generation.”
Thanks to the inspired
American system that also made room for me as an immigrant, allof
those facts can be true at the same time.
As I have discovered
through 40 years in academia, the hidden strength of a university is that every
fall, it is refreshed by a new tide of students. I am equally convinced that
part of the genius of America is that it is continually refreshed by
immigration – by the passionate energy, audacity, ingenuity and drive of people
hungry for a better life.
There is certainly room
for a wide range of serious positions on the actions necessary to ensure our
national security and to manage and improve our nation’s immigration system.
But above the noise of the current moment, the signal I believe we should be
sending, loud and clear, is that the story of American immigration is essential
to understanding how the US became, and remains, optimistic, open-minded,
innovative and prosperous – a story of never-ending renewal.
In a nation like ours,
immigration is a kind of oxygen, each fresh wave reenergizing the body as a
whole. As a society, when we offer immigrants the gift of opportunity, we
receive in return vital fuel for our shared future. I trust that this wisdom
will always guide us in the life and work of MIT. And I hope it can continue to
guide our nation.
TRUMP Camps are cruel and even evil. It's clear to me that he likes them that way. They won't deter people since they are trying to escape horrific conditions.
Wayfair Workers Walk Out Over Business With Migrant Detention Center
The online retailer furnished a migrant detention facility for children on the southern border, and its employees are furious. Today
Hundreds of outraged Wayfair employees at the company’s Boston headquarters walked off the job Wednesday to protest the online retailer’s business with a contractor that operates migrant detention centers.
Workers learned last week that the furniture outlet sold $200,000 worth of bedroom furniture to a government contractor called BCFS for the purpose of outfitting an immigrant detention facility in Carrizo Springs, Texas, reportedly capable of detaining 1,600 migrant children.
Damn those wayfair employees are cruel. No furniture for you! Poor migrant kids
Met a few Wayfair employees at an AI conference over the past few days - absurdly fascinating company from a data perspective, and very kind (and brilliant) people. I don't understand the cause for protest though - had Wayfair not delivered this furniture, it'd have been sourced elsewhere. Or, considering the Trump administration, maybe they just wouldn't have equipped the place with furniture at all.
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Damn those wayfair employees are cruel. No furniture for you! Poor migrant kids
Met a few Wayfair employees at an AI conference over the past few days - absurdly fascinating company from a data perspective, and very kind (and brilliant) people. I don't understand the cause for protest though - had Wayfair not delivered this furniture, it'd have been sourced elsewhere. Or, considering the Trump administration, maybe they just wouldn't have equipped the place with furniture at all.
That's a pretty poor argument. The Nazis would have just taken their business elsewhere.
If it was a company I worked for I wouldn't want any part of that travesty either. Plus it brings more attention to this issue, which can only be a good thing.
Damn those wayfair employees are cruel. No furniture for you! Poor migrant kids
Met a few Wayfair employees at an AI conference over the past few days - absurdly fascinating company from a data perspective, and very kind (and brilliant) people. I don't understand the cause for protest though - had Wayfair not delivered this furniture, it'd have been sourced elsewhere. Or, considering the Trump administration, maybe they just wouldn't have equipped the place with furniture at all.
That's a pretty poor argument. The Nazis would have just taken their business elsewhere.
If it was a company I worked for I wouldn't want any part of that travesty either. Plus it brings more attention to this issue, which can only be a good thing.
So your company doesn’t do anything you don’t agree with?
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“There we will set our position, which, I repeat, will take into account that we want to have a good neighbor with the United States, but at the same time defending the dignity of Mexico,” he said. “We want to act with great prudence, but at the same time with firmness in the defense of our sovereignty.”
López Obrador initially responded harshly to Trump’s latest threat, writing in a letter to the U.S. president last week that his “America First” policy was “a fallacy.” But he has since emphasized his interest in maintaining a warm relationship with Trump.
Trump’s abrupt tariff threat has imperiled prospects for congressional ratification of his new North American trade deal. Roughly two weeks ago, Trump agreed to lift tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from Mexico and Canada, meeting a condition that Senate Republicans had set before they would vote on the proposed U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement.
That trade deal largely preserves the tariff-free trading relations between the United States and its southern neighbor established in the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump routinely disparages as “one of the worst trade deals ever made.”
As Trump pushes ahead, business leaders and members of his own party are scrambling to head off the imposition of new tariffs that would likely result in retaliatory measures by Mexico targeting American farmers and manufacturers.
“We are committed to enhancing the U.S.-Mexico economic relationship and favor more trade, not tariffs. Imposing tariffs on Mexico does not address the root causes of migration and jeopardizes our shared economic interests,” the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and its Mexican counterpart, the Business Coordinating Council, said in a joint statement.
Through April, Mexico has been the largest U.S. trading partner. Last year, when it ranked third behind China and Canada, Mexico shipped almost $350 billion worth of autos, auto parts, industrial machinery and farm products to U.S. customers.
With little more than 96 hours remaining before the tariffs are scheduled to take effect, businesses across the United States are scrambling to draw up contingency plans.
“We’re very concerned,” said Adam Briggs, vice president of sales and marketing for Trans-Matic Manufacturing in Holland, Mich. “Businesses crave certainty. When the rules are constantly changing, we have a hard time.”
take a good look
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hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Using military bases in this way is not new. In 2014, the Obama Administration placed around 7,700 migrant children on bases in Texas, California and Oklahoma, including Fort Sill. The temporary shelters were shuttered after four months. Last year, the government evaluated several military bases to shelter migrants, but ultimately decided not to use the facilities.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/11/arizona-activist-migrant-water-scott-daniel-warren-verdict
An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border
https://apple.news/A4pPG2SgUTviZffZpXX6r9w
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Thank you.
Change my mind.
starts with the govt. since one side is holding things up, we can’t get more facilities or judges or anything, so it just bottlenecks in the cages.
i feel for the border towns as much as the immigrants. They’re being inundated and overrun and have no where to turn since the govt won’t address the needs.
Over 100 migrant children returned to 'horrific' border station
"There was nobody taking care of these children... they were not being bathed on a regular basis," Prof Warren Binford of Williamette University in Oregon told the BBC after visiting the Clint facility in Texas.
"Several hundred of the children had been kept in a warehouse that was recently erected on the facility grounds."
"The cells are overcrowded... there's a lice infestation there, there is an influenza outbreak. Children are being locked up in isolation with no adult supervision, who are very, very ill and they're just lying on the ground on mats."
Elora Mukherjee, another lawyer who visited the facility, told CBS News: "They were wearing the same dirty clothing they crossed the border with."
"It is degrading and inhumane and shouldn't be happening in America."
As stories of substandard conditions in facilities have continued to emerge, some volunteers have tried to donate supplies - only to be turned away by border officials.
One group told the Texas Tribune they spent $340 (£267) on diapers, wipes, soaps and toys for the Clint facility, but were completely ignored by all the agents on duty.
Another Clint resident who tried to visit the Clint station told the Tribune: "Knowing what's happening in your community and that you can't give these kids supplies to clean or clothe themselves - it's heartbreaking."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48763323
Disgusting.
Acting Customs and Border Protection commissioner to leave as immigration tensions escalate
https://news.yahoo.com/acting-customs-border-protection-commissioner-171458301.html
yet we have children sleeping on concrete floors with feces covered clothing , no toothpaste or toothbrush or soap or clean towels and no one can be charged wtf happened to this country!
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/there-are-no-concentration-camps-on-the-border/2019/06/24/0229e886-96bb-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html?utm_term=.f9d3434a0510
Regardless of the word choice (and I personally wouldn't use concentration camps), it continues ot be an awful situation that apparently no one has any political will to actually solve.
To the members of the MIT community,
MIT has flourished, like the United States itself, because it has been a magnet for the world’s finest talent, a global laboratory where people from every culture and background inspire each other and invent the future, together.
Today, I feel compelled to share my dismay about some circumstances painfully relevant to our fellow MIT community members of Chinese descent. And I believe that because we treasure them as friends and colleagues, their situation and its larger national context should concern us all.
The situation
As the US and China have struggled with rising tensions, the US government has raised serious concerns about incidents of alleged academic espionage conducted by individuals through what is widely understood as a systematic effort of the Chinese government to acquire high-tech IP.
As head of an institute that includes MIT Lincoln Laboratory, I could not take national security more seriously. I am well aware of the risks of academic espionage, and MIT has established prudent policies to protect against such breaches.
But in managing these risks, we must take great care not to create a toxic atmosphere of unfounded suspicion and fear. Looking at cases across the nation, small numbers of researchers of Chinese background may indeed have acted in bad faith, but they are the exception and very far from the rule. Yet faculty members, post-docs, research staff and students tell me that, in their dealings with government agencies, they now feel unfairly scrutinized, stigmatized and on edge – because of their Chinese ethnicity alone.
Nothing could be further from – or more corrosive to – our community’s collaborative strength and open-hearted ideals. To hear such reports from Chinese and Chinese-American colleagues is heartbreaking. As scholars, teachers, mentors, inventors and entrepreneurs, they have been not only exemplary members of our community but exceptional contributors to American society. I am deeply troubled that they feel themselves repaid with generalized mistrust and disrespect.
The signal to the world
For those of us who know firsthand the immense value of MIT’s global community and of the free flow of scientific ideas, it is important to understand the distress of these colleagues as part of an increasingly loud signal the US is sending to the world.
Protracted visa delays. Harsh rhetoric against most immigrants and a range of other groups, because of religion, race, ethnicity or national origin. Together, such actions and policies have turned the volume all the way up on the message that the US is closing the door – that we no longer seek to be a magnet for the world’s most driven and creative individuals. I believe this message is not consistent with how America has succeeded. I am certain it is not how the Institute has succeeded. And we should expect it to have serious long-term costs for the nation and for MIT.
For the record, let me say with warmth and enthusiasm to every member of MIT’s intensely global community: We are glad, proud and fortunate to have you with us! To our alumni around the world: We remain one community, united by our shared values and ideals! And to all the rising talent out there: If you are passionate about making a better world, and if you dream of joining our community, we welcome your creativity, we welcome your unstoppable energy and aspiration – and we hope you can find a way to join us.
* * *
In May, the world lost a brilliant creative force: architect I.M. Pei, MIT Class of 1940. Raised in Shanghai and Hong Kong, he came to the United States at 17 to seek an education. He left a legacy of iconic buildings from Boston to Paris and China to Washington, DC, as well on our own campus. By his own account, he consciously stayed alive to his Chinese roots all his life. Yet, when he died at the age of 102, the Boston Globe described him as “the most prominent American architect of his generation.”
Thanks to the inspired American system that also made room for me as an immigrant, all of those facts can be true at the same time.
As I have discovered through 40 years in academia, the hidden strength of a university is that every fall, it is refreshed by a new tide of students. I am equally convinced that part of the genius of America is that it is continually refreshed by immigration – by the passionate energy, audacity, ingenuity and drive of people hungry for a better life.
There is certainly room for a wide range of serious positions on the actions necessary to ensure our national security and to manage and improve our nation’s immigration system. But above the noise of the current moment, the signal I believe we should be sending, loud and clear, is that the story of American immigration is essential to understanding how the US became, and remains, optimistic, open-minded, innovative and prosperous – a story of never-ending renewal.
In a nation like ours, immigration is a kind of oxygen, each fresh wave reenergizing the body as a whole. As a society, when we offer immigrants the gift of opportunity, we receive in return vital fuel for our shared future. I trust that this wisdom will always guide us in the life and work of MIT. And I hope it can continue to guide our nation.
Sincerely,
L. Rafael ReifLibtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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If it was a company I worked for I wouldn't want any part of that travesty either. Plus it brings more attention to this issue, which can only be a good thing.