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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,319
    Raise the mound? The batters are  on pace to set the all time MLB strikeout record for a season, for what? 3rd or 4th year in-a-row?  Today's players don't care about striking out. HR's gets the big contract.  It drives me nuts the amount of strikeouts in today's game. 

    I'd love to see some pitching duels too, but , for the most part, those days are over. TV doesn't help with that, though. I remember seeing Steve Carlton pitch in 1972 and we would be home in 3 hours from his first pitch of the game. And, we didn't live across  the street from the stadium either.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    edited August 2017
    cutz said:
    Raise the mound? The batters are  on pace to set the all time MLB strikeout record for a season, for what? 3rd or 4th year in-a-row?  Today's players don't care about striking out. HR's gets the big contract.  It drives me nuts the amount of strikeouts in today's game. 

    I'd love to see some pitching duels too, but , for the most part, those days are over. TV doesn't help with that, though. I remember seeing Steve Carlton pitch in 1972 and we would be home in 3 hours from his first pitch of the game. And, we didn't live across  the street from the stadium either.
    Gotta agree here.  There seems to be more and more strikeouts attributed to inept batters because they just swing for the fence and swing at everything these days.  Take my Cubs for example.  They strikeout 10 times a game, every game.  That's absolutely ridiculous.  There are very, very few guys around the league that have any patience any more or know how to work a count and tire a pitcher.  The job of the pitcher is to get you, the batter, out.  These days the batter just does it for them.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,814
    cutz said:
    Raise the mound? The batters are  on pace to set the all time MLB strikeout record for a season, for what? 3rd or 4th year in-a-row?  Today's players don't care about striking out. HR's gets the big contract.  It drives me nuts the amount of strikeouts in today's game. 

    I'd love to see some pitching duels too, but , for the most part, those days are over. TV doesn't help with that, though. I remember seeing Steve Carlton pitch in 1972 and we would be home in 3 hours from his first pitch of the game. And, we didn't live across  the street from the stadium either.
    Yes raise the mound.  The era of Pitchers will drop like a rock.

    2 things that boggle my mind the year before they lowered it, ready?

    Carl Yazstremski led the league with a .301 average.  .301...

    Bob Gibson led the league with a 1.12 ERA.  He pitched a full year and not a partial.  There wasn't a strike shortened season.

    1.12

    Let those two things sink in.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,044
    The Texas Rangers are selfish pricks. how much of a dickhead organization do you have to try an nut your neighbors during a catastrophe?  just switch the damn series. This is one case where the commissioner should have forced them to switch.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,814
    pjhawks said:
    The Texas Rangers are selfish pricks. how much of a dickhead organization do you have to try an nut your neighbors during a catastrophe?  just switch the damn series. This is one case where the commissioner should have forced them to switch.
    I approve this message^
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,319
    edited August 2017
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    Raise the mound? The batters are  on pace to set the all time MLB strikeout record for a season, for what? 3rd or 4th year in-a-row?  Today's players don't care about striking out. HR's gets the big contract.  It drives me nuts the amount of strikeouts in today's game. 

    I'd love to see some pitching duels too, but , for the most part, those days are over. TV doesn't help with that, though. I remember seeing Steve Carlton pitch in 1972 and we would be home in 3 hours from his first pitch of the game. And, we didn't live across  the street from the stadium either.
    Yes raise the mound.  The era of Pitchers will drop like a rock.

    2 things that boggle my mind the year before they lowered it, ready?

    Carl Yazstremski led the league with a .301 average.  .301...

    Bob Gibson led the league with a 1.12 ERA.  He pitched a full year and not a partial.  There wasn't a strike shortened season.

    1.12

    Let those two things sink in.
    I did  know  about those stats.

    They could lower the mound( i'd  like to see it for a couple of seasons to see how it goes), but i doubt the MLBPA would go for it. I'm sure the pitchers would love to see it raised, though.

    Check out these stats for these pitchers. They make Bob Gibson & Sandy Koufax stats look ordinary>HAHA>Maybe you've already seen these stats?

    Al Spalding: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spaldal01.shtml

    Old Hoss Radbourn: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/radboch01.shtml  (check out that 1884 season> 73 starts & 73 complete games. I always laugh my ass off every time i look at some the old time players stats)
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,319
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Texas Rangers are selfish pricks. how much of a dickhead organization do you have to try an nut your neighbors during a catastrophe?  just switch the damn series. This is one case where the commissioner should have forced them to switch.
    I approve this message^
    I do too. Just don't understand why the Rangers did that. Boggles the mind.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,064
    cutz said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Texas Rangers are selfish pricks. how much of a dickhead organization do you have to try an nut your neighbors during a catastrophe?  just switch the damn series. This is one case where the commissioner should have forced them to switch.
    I approve this message^
    I do too. Just don't understand why the Rangers did that. Boggles the mind.
    Because it would create a 12 game, 4 city road trip at the very end of the season when they are trying to make the wild card. Not saying it's right but that's why and I get it
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,319
    Cliffy6745 said:
    cutz said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Texas Rangers are selfish pricks. how much of a dickhead organization do you have to try an nut your neighbors during a catastrophe?  just switch the damn series. This is one case where the commissioner should have forced them to switch.
    I approve this message^
    I do too. Just don't understand why the Rangers did that. Boggles the mind.
    Because it would create a 12 game, 4 city road trip at the very end of the season when they are trying to make the wild card. Not saying it's right but that's why and I get it
    T
    I get it too, but with  this historical catastrophe, you'd think they would want to just switch the Series around. Plus, it's only in Houston & not that far from Arlington. Rangers have got a lot of backlash by not doing it.  I do expect they'll make some kind of Donation.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,814
    cutz said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    Raise the mound? The batters are  on pace to set the all time MLB strikeout record for a season, for what? 3rd or 4th year in-a-row?  Today's players don't care about striking out. HR's gets the big contract.  It drives me nuts the amount of strikeouts in today's game. 

    I'd love to see some pitching duels too, but , for the most part, those days are over. TV doesn't help with that, though. I remember seeing Steve Carlton pitch in 1972 and we would be home in 3 hours from his first pitch of the game. And, we didn't live across  the street from the stadium either.
    Yes raise the mound.  The era of Pitchers will drop like a rock.

    2 things that boggle my mind the year before they lowered it, ready?

    Carl Yazstremski led the league with a .301 average.  .301...

    Bob Gibson led the league with a 1.12 ERA.  He pitched a full year and not a partial.  There wasn't a strike shortened season.

    1.12

    Let those two things sink in.
    I did  know  about those stats.

    They could lower the mound( i'd  like to see it for a couple of seasons to see how it goes), but i doubt the MLBPA would go for it. I'm sure the pitchers would love to see it raised, though.

    Check out these stats for these pitchers. They make Bob Gibson & Sandy Koufax stats look ordinary>HAHA>Maybe you've already seen these stats?

    Al Spalding: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spaldal01.shtml

    Old Hoss Radbourn: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/radboch01.shtml  (check out that 1884 season> 73 starts & 73 complete games. I always laugh my ass off every time i look at some the old time players stats)
    Baseball in it's infancy has some CRAZY numbers. Spitballs and cheating were rampant.  I loved reading the stories of John McGraw rounding the bases from first to third and bypassing 2nd altogether when the ump wasn't looking.  Spalding was a hell of a player too and good pioneer of the game early on.  Glad to see someone else that appreciates the game like that.

    Cy Young has more losses than people have wins.  That's just nuts.

    The above stats with from 68 are fairly modern and still hold weight.  But you are right when you say that the MLBPA won't allow it.  The inflated numbers are good for attendance and good for a players salary.  But one can dream...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,064
    edited August 2017
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cutz said:
    Raise the mound? The batters are  on pace to set the all time MLB strikeout record for a season, for what? 3rd or 4th year in-a-row?  Today's players don't care about striking out. HR's gets the big contract.  It drives me nuts the amount of strikeouts in today's game. 

    I'd love to see some pitching duels too, but , for the most part, those days are over. TV doesn't help with that, though. I remember seeing Steve Carlton pitch in 1972 and we would be home in 3 hours from his first pitch of the game. And, we didn't live across  the street from the stadium either.
    Yes raise the mound.  The era of Pitchers will drop like a rock.

    2 things that boggle my mind the year before they lowered it, ready?

    Carl Yazstremski led the league with a .301 average.  .301...

    Bob Gibson led the league with a 1.12 ERA.  He pitched a full year and not a partial.  There wasn't a strike shortened season.

    1.12

    Let those two things sink in.
    I did  know  about those stats.

    They could lower the mound( i'd  like to see it for a couple of seasons to see how it goes), but i doubt the MLBPA would go for it. I'm sure the pitchers would love to see it raised, though.

    Check out these stats for these pitchers. They make Bob Gibson & Sandy Koufax stats look ordinary>HAHA>Maybe you've already seen these stats?

    Al Spalding: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spaldal01.shtml

    Old Hoss Radbourn: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/radboch01.shtml  (check out that 1884 season> 73 starts & 73 complete games. I always laugh my ass off every time i look at some the old time players stats)
    Baseball in it's infancy has some CRAZY numbers. Spitballs and cheating were rampant.  I loved reading the stories of John McGraw rounding the bases from first to third and bypassing 2nd altogether when the ump wasn't looking.  Spalding was a hell of a player too and good pioneer of the game early on.  Glad to see someone else that appreciates the game like that.

    Cy Young has more losses than people have wins.  That's just nuts.

    The above stats with from 68 are fairly modern and still hold weight.  But you are right when you say that the MLBPA won't allow it.  The inflated numbers are good for attendance and good for a players salary.  But one can dream...
    Babe Ruth hit more home runs than any team in baseball...twice.

    I repeat, home runs are fun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLECMCargd8
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599

    ^

    Fun fact. That commercial was filmed in Veterans Stadium, not Busch Stadium.

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  • The Juggler
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    To clarify my stance---yeah, I like home runs. Sure, they are fun.......but, to me, a 1-0 gem of a pitchers duel that takes just under 3 hours is more interesting and fun than a 4 hour plus 10-7 slugfest.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,064
    The Juggler said:
    To clarify my stance---yeah, I like home runs. Sure, they are fun.......but, to me, a 1-0 gem of a pitchers duel that takes just under 3 hours is more interesting and fun than a 4 hour plus 10-7 slugfest.
    That's fair, but there is a happy medium.  How about a 4-3 game with a couple home runs and doubles rather than 1-0 with a walk, bunt and seeing eye single?

    I like pitching duels too, though I am clearly partial to offense.

    Baseball is great.  We can have it all.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,064
    The Juggler said:

    ^

    Fun fact. That commercial was filmed in Veterans Stadium, not Busch Stadium.

    That's cool.  That thing was long gone by the time I got here.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    Yeah, I love a good 1-0 pitchers' duel.  I just don't want 162 of the fucking things.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,814
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Yeah, I love a good 1-0 pitchers' duel.  I just don't want 162 of the fucking things.
    There is too much baseball and too little talent for that to ever happen.

    This why I loved Maddux.  Threw maybe 90mph tops.  What was great is that he could pitch lights out and paint the corners.  Dude had control.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,500
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Yeah, I love a good 1-0 pitchers' duel.  I just don't want 162 of the fucking things.
    There is too much baseball and too little talent for that to ever happen.

    This why I loved Maddux.  Threw maybe 90mph tops.  What was great is that he could pitch lights out and paint the corners.  Dude had control.
    He was absolutely incredible to watch.  What the US Army classifies as Expert in marksmanship qualification, he was the baseball equivalent on the pitcher's mound.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,814
    HesCalledDyer said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Yeah, I love a good 1-0 pitchers' duel.  I just don't want 162 of the fucking things.
    There is too much baseball and too little talent for that to ever happen.

    This why I loved Maddux.  Threw maybe 90mph tops.  What was great is that he could pitch lights out and paint the corners.  Dude had control.
    He was absolutely incredible to watch.  What the US Army classifies as Expert in marksmanship qualification, he was the baseball equivalent on the pitcher's mound.
    My favorite Maddux factoid:

    Every year he tries to accomplish something else in his career to motivate himself so he decided he wanted to try and get more wins than walks.

    In 1997 He had 19 wins and gave up only 20 walks... and he didn't win the Cy Young Award...
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Yeah, I love a good 1-0 pitchers' duel.  I just don't want 162 of the fucking things.
    There is too much baseball and too little talent for that to ever happen.

    This why I loved Maddux.  Threw maybe 90mph tops.  What was great is that he could pitch lights out and paint the corners.  Dude had control.
    He was absolutely incredible to watch.  What the US Army classifies as Expert in marksmanship qualification, he was the baseball equivalent on the pitcher's mound.
    My favorite Maddux factoid:

    Every year he tries to accomplish something else in his career to motivate himself so he decided he wanted to try and get more wins than walks.

    In 1997 He had 19 wins and gave up only 20 walks... and he didn't win the Cy Young Award...H e
    He was a surgeon on the mound. Loved watching him pitch.....when it wasn't against the Phillies
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