MLB 2025 World Series
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I was starting to doubt the Astros after the first 2 games but then they came around.The Juggler said:
Nice. I am definitely feeling more confident after seeing this.tempo_n_groove said:Predictions!
I got Astros in 6.
hahaha...only kidding, tempo !
I also shit on the Phillies earlier in the year. They really came around.
This was an entertaining WS. Not the best but it was good. I believe it got better ratings than the other sports.0 -
Yeah, it was a great series. Phillies are going to make some noise in the offseason, I bet.I LOVE MUSIC.
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Bonds Clemens, Murphy should make it no problem.
McGriff and Schilling are on the cusp.
Palmiero I don't think gets in for a bit because he got popped and lied to congress.
People cry for Keith Hernandez? Dude was pretty damn good but not HOF good.0 -
Hernandez is not in that group.tempo_n_groove said:Bonds Clemens, Murphy should make it no problem.
McGriff and Schilling are on the cusp.
Palmiero I don't think gets in for a bit because he got popped and lied to congress.
People cry for Keith Hernandez? Dude was pretty damn good but not HOF good.
Are you mistaking Mattingly (Yankee) for Hernandez (Met)?This weekend we rock Portland0 -
Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERA2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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No shit he's not in that group which is why I brought him up and no baseball fan would ever mistake Mattingly for Keith, lol!Poncier said:
Hernandez is not in that group.tempo_n_groove said:Bonds Clemens, Murphy should make it no problem.
McGriff and Schilling are on the cusp.
Palmiero I don't think gets in for a bit because he got popped and lied to congress.
People cry for Keith Hernandez? Dude was pretty damn good but not HOF good.
Are you mistaking Mattingly (Yankee) for Hernandez (Met)?
I always read about Hernandez fans chirping about how he gets snubbed from the HOF conversation whenever Mattingly gets mentioned.
Just wanted to chime in that he isn't good enough to be in the Hall either and neither is Mattingly.0 -
Josh Beckett 7-3 w 3.07 ERA I always thought he was overlooked.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERA0 -
Yeah he was great in the postseason. I was only listing hall of famers though. Another guy not listed but who I think will make the hall of fame is Madison Bumgarner. 8-3 (Really you can call him 9-3 since he pitched like 5 innings in that game 7 to earn the save) with a 2.11 ERA.tempo_n_groove said:
Josh Beckett 7-3 w 3.07 ERA I always thought he was overlooked.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERA2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Bum isn't retired yet. He's borderlineLedbetterman10 said:
Yeah he was great in the postseason. I was only listing hall of famers though. Another guy not listed but who I think will make the hall of fame is Madison Bumgarner. 8-3 (Really you can call him 9-3 since he pitched like 5 innings in that game 7 to earn the save) with a 2.11 ERA.tempo_n_groove said:
Josh Beckett 7-3 w 3.07 ERA I always thought he was overlooked.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERAI miss igotid880 -
I give Mattingly the edge over Keithtempo_n_groove said:
No shit he's not in that group which is why I brought him up and no baseball fan would ever mistake Mattingly for Keith, lol!Poncier said:
Hernandez is not in that group.tempo_n_groove said:Bonds Clemens, Murphy should make it no problem.
McGriff and Schilling are on the cusp.
Palmiero I don't think gets in for a bit because he got popped and lied to congress.
People cry for Keith Hernandez? Dude was pretty damn good but not HOF good.
Are you mistaking Mattingly (Yankee) for Hernandez (Met)?
I always read about Hernandez fans chirping about how he gets snubbed from the HOF conversation whenever Mattingly gets mentioned.
Just wanted to chime in that he isn't good enough to be in the Hall either and neither is Mattingly.I miss igotid880 -
Not every good to great player is going to play in the playoffs or even have played a ton of games in the playoffs. So I think the regular season should count more.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERAI miss igotid880 -
I disagree. Now if you’re great in the regular season and don’t have any postseason success (Frank Thomas for example), that shouldn’t be held against you. But postseason success should be weighed heavily for players that have it, and should put them over the top if they’re borderline based only on regular season like someone like Schilling.igotid88 said:
Not every good to great player is going to play in the playoffs or even have played a ton of games in the playoffs. So I think the regular season should count more.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERA2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Keith led a team and won a WS though. Had a much better WAR and both are 300 AB's apart.igotid88 said:
I give Mattingly the edge over Keithtempo_n_groove said:
No shit he's not in that group which is why I brought him up and no baseball fan would ever mistake Mattingly for Keith, lol!Poncier said:
Hernandez is not in that group.tempo_n_groove said:Bonds Clemens, Murphy should make it no problem.
McGriff and Schilling are on the cusp.
Palmiero I don't think gets in for a bit because he got popped and lied to congress.
People cry for Keith Hernandez? Dude was pretty damn good but not HOF good.
Are you mistaking Mattingly (Yankee) for Hernandez (Met)?
I always read about Hernandez fans chirping about how he gets snubbed from the HOF conversation whenever Mattingly gets mentioned.
Just wanted to chime in that he isn't good enough to be in the Hall either and neither is Mattingly.0 -
I know, I was just pointing out someone who was clutch in the playoffs too.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yeah he was great in the postseason. I was only listing hall of famers though. Another guy not listed but who I think will make the hall of fame is Madison Bumgarner. 8-3 (Really you can call him 9-3 since he pitched like 5 innings in that game 7 to earn the save) with a 2.11 ERA.tempo_n_groove said:
Josh Beckett 7-3 w 3.07 ERA I always thought he was overlooked.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERA
Madison is a great in that department too.0 -
I think Doc, Daryl, Darling ,Knight, Mookie, Sid, Ojeda, and Carter also had something to do with it also. Keith also played 303 more games and had 831 more Plate Appearances. Both retired young but Mattingly was still a good player with his bad back. Keith couldn't hit by the end.tempo_n_groove said:
Keith led a team and won a WS though. Had a much better WAR and both are 300 AB's apart.igotid88 said:
I give Mattingly the edge over Keithtempo_n_groove said:
No shit he's not in that group which is why I brought him up and no baseball fan would ever mistake Mattingly for Keith, lol!Poncier said:
Hernandez is not in that group.tempo_n_groove said:Bonds Clemens, Murphy should make it no problem.
McGriff and Schilling are on the cusp.
Palmiero I don't think gets in for a bit because he got popped and lied to congress.
People cry for Keith Hernandez? Dude was pretty damn good but not HOF good.
Are you mistaking Mattingly (Yankee) for Hernandez (Met)?
I always read about Hernandez fans chirping about how he gets snubbed from the HOF conversation whenever Mattingly gets mentioned.
Just wanted to chime in that he isn't good enough to be in the Hall either and neither is Mattingly.I miss igotid880 -
So if basically are an average player but happen to play for the Yankees for example and are constantly in the playoffs they should be a Hall of Famer?Ledbetterman10 said:
I disagree. Now if you’re great in the regular season and don’t have any postseason success (Frank Thomas for example), that shouldn’t be held against you. But postseason success should be weighed heavily for players that have it, and should put them over the top if they’re borderline based only on regular season like someone like Schilling.igotid88 said:
Not every good to great player is going to play in the playoffs or even have played a ton of games in the playoffs. So I think the regular season should count more.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERAI miss igotid880 -
Nope. I said if you’re a borderline HOFer based on your regular seasons, and you’re great in the postseason, that should get you in.igotid88 said:
So if basically are an average player but happen to play for the Yankees for example and are constantly in the playoffs they should be a Hall of Famer?Ledbetterman10 said:
I disagree. Now if you’re great in the regular season and don’t have any postseason success (Frank Thomas for example), that shouldn’t be held against you. But postseason success should be weighed heavily for players that have it, and should put them over the top if they’re borderline based only on regular season like someone like Schilling.igotid88 said:
Not every good to great player is going to play in the playoffs or even have played a ton of games in the playoffs. So I think the regular season should count more.Ledbetterman10 said:Schilling should totally be in. If it was based on regular season only, he'd be borderline. But he's one of the best (if not the best) postseason pitchers of the past 30 years. Check out his postseason W/L record and ERA compared to other hall of fame starting pitchers from that era. Only Smoltz comes close....
Curt Schilling: 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA
John Smoltz: 15-4 with a 2.67 ERA
Greg Maddux: 11-13 with a 3.27 ERA
Tom Glavine: 14-16 with a 3.30 ERA
Randy Johnson: 7-9 with a 3.50 ERA
Jack Morris: 7-4 with a 3.80 ERA
Mike Mussina: 7-8 with a 3.42 ERA
Pedro Martinez: 6-4 with a 3.46 ERA2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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There's only 300 AB's apart from them though. Hernandez has twice as many walks. Keith also won gold gloves at the end of his career as did Matingly.igotid88 said:
I think Doc, Daryl, Darling ,Knight, Mookie, Sid, Ojeda, and Carter also had something to do with it also. Keith also played 303 more games and had 831 more Plate Appearances. Both retired young but Mattingly was still a good player with his bad back. Keith couldn't hit by the end.tempo_n_groove said:
Keith led a team and won a WS though. Had a much better WAR and both are 300 AB's apart.igotid88 said:
I give Mattingly the edge over Keithtempo_n_groove said:
No shit he's not in that group which is why I brought him up and no baseball fan would ever mistake Mattingly for Keith, lol!Poncier said:
Hernandez is not in that group.tempo_n_groove said:Bonds Clemens, Murphy should make it no problem.
McGriff and Schilling are on the cusp.
Palmiero I don't think gets in for a bit because he got popped and lied to congress.
People cry for Keith Hernandez? Dude was pretty damn good but not HOF good.
Are you mistaking Mattingly (Yankee) for Hernandez (Met)?
I always read about Hernandez fans chirping about how he gets snubbed from the HOF conversation whenever Mattingly gets mentioned.
Just wanted to chime in that he isn't good enough to be in the Hall either and neither is Mattingly.
For flash I go w Donnie Baseball as he put a string of a few years very nicely. Career I like Keith.
Knight, Mookie and Sid had very, very brief flashes of goodness. They weren't very good in their good seasons... Dykstra and Backman were better than Mookie.
Not going to argue about Carter. He was good, so was Daryl.
Didn't Mattingly have Winfield and Henderson?
Thinking back to that 86 season Yanks have 3 HOF? Mets only 1? I think Carter is the only HOFer from the Mets.0
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