MLB 2025 World Series

tempo_n_groove

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

That visual of Palmeiro pointing his finger and lying to Congress will stick with him forever and should keep him out of the Hall.

Dude could hit though.

Hell I want Arod in too though.

Meh. Stat compiler. Only 4 time all-star in 20-year career. The 3 full seasons before he obviously got on the juice, he hit 8, 8 and 14 HR. So not a case like Bonds or Clemens where they were sure fire HOF'ers before juicing, this guy would have hit like 200-250 career HR in 20 years without 'roids.

Again, screw him.

  So you think he juiced then magically hit 4-5x as many homers?  It was that easy?

C'mon...

Ask Brady Anderson.

One time he did that, not for a career.  again, c'mon...

The one year he took steroids.

That's fair.  I buy that.

tempo_n_groove

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

Boston let's him go?  Damn.  Do the Phillies move Stott to another position or trade him outright?

Ledbetterman10

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

Boston let's him go?  Damn.  Do the Phillies move Stott to another position or trade him outright?

He hasn't officially left Boston yet but it seems to be inevitable. The Phillies didn't pick up Seagura's option so Stott could maybe move to 2nd base if the Phillies signed a shortstop. 

Poncier

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

Boston let's him go?  Damn.  Do the Phillies move Stott to another position or trade him outright?

He had an opt out and exercised it.

Poncier

igotid88 said:

Poncier said:

igotid88 said:

Andy Pettitte should be in. Over 100 games above .500. Good post season numbers with 5 World Series rings.

His 3.85 career ERA works against him. only 2 guys in HOF higher.
He's essentially Jack Morris (one of the aforementioned 2 at 3.90), but with the stank of steroids on him. If he was never associated with PEDs (or maybe I should say if his dad was never associated, lol), he'd have gotten in barely. 

It was HGH

Oh, so I guess Saint Andy should be in the HOF then. Only HGH, no advantage there.

cutz

tempo_n_groove said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Poncier said:

That visual of Palmeiro pointing his finger and lying to Congress will stick with him forever and should keep him out of the Hall.

Dude could hit though.

Hell I want Arod in too though.

None of those guys can get in before Bonds though. Great as A-Rod was, Bonds was better by a very large margin. 

I would lead to agree.  Bonds and Arod are the 2 best batters I have ever seen.  First ten years of Pujols is third and first ten years of Big Hurt is 4th.

Yes Bonds was better.  I have and most likely will never see the likes of what he did again.

For hitters I  would Pujols ahead of A-Rod , and Manny Ramirez. 

cutz

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

pjhawks

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 

The Juggler

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

Cliffy6745

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

How’d that work out?

I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 

Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 

igotid88

Poncier said:

igotid88 said:

Poncier said:

igotid88 said:

Andy Pettitte should be in. Over 100 games above .500. Good post season numbers with 5 World Series rings.

His 3.85 career ERA works against him. only 2 guys in HOF higher.
He's essentially Jack Morris (one of the aforementioned 2 at 3.90), but with the stank of steroids on him. If he was never associated with PEDs (or maybe I should say if his dad was never associated, lol), he'd have gotten in barely. 

It was HGH

Oh, so I guess Saint Andy should be in the HOF then. Only HGH, no advantage there.

Well according to him it was just to recover from injury. Most who take steroids do it before they're injured. 

Wobbie

igotid88 said:

Poncier said:

igotid88 said:

Poncier said:

igotid88 said:

Andy Pettitte should be in. Over 100 games above .500. Good post season numbers with 5 World Series rings.

His 3.85 career ERA works against him. only 2 guys in HOF higher.
He's essentially Jack Morris (one of the aforementioned 2 at 3.90), but with the stank of steroids on him. If he was never associated with PEDs (or maybe I should say if his dad was never associated, lol), he'd have gotten in barely. 

It was HGH

Oh, so I guess Saint Andy should be in the HOF then. Only HGH, no advantage there.

Well according to him it was just to recover from injury. Most who take steroids do it before they're injured. 

that’s what “nice guy” (he really is) matt williams said. he also said he didn’t like them, yet he ordered $18,000 more.

matt williams did steroids????? yes, he did….but his “nice guy” status shielded him from much scrutiny.

F Me In The Brain

I think it is more that nobody cares about Matt Williams

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 

Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 

Harper reportedly took less aav to sign with Phils. Giants and Dodgers offered more per year but less years. 

and Jayson Stark said today that rumblings are Trea Turner wants to be in Philly.  He’s gonna be here 

The Juggler

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

How’d that work out?

I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.

It worked out pretty well. Lots of reports about Turner to the Phils, Cliff...

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

How’d that work out?

I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.

It worked out pretty well. Lots of reports about Turner to the Phils, Cliff...

Worked out well for Lee? I can’t think of more tangible evidence of “Oops, I picked the wrong team” than the 2009 World Series. And he pitched so great in that series. If he went to the Yankees, they probably sweep the series. Maybe in three games….somehow. 

Cliffy6745

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.

Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 

I 

My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 

Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.

This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

How’d that work out?

I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.

It worked out pretty well. Lots of reports about Turner to the Phils, Cliff...

Cool…congrats on the reports? And if he does it’s because they paid him they most.

The conversation started because dude said someone is friends with someone, and that shit is hilarious. Money talks, that’s it