MLB 2025 Season

Halifax2TheMax

Wobbie said:

joe west has more chins than the shanghai phone book.

Or more tongue than Tung?

Indifference71

cutz said:

Don't think Anderson just went to first base after he was hit. Looks like he's talking shit too.  Agree it was dumb for the pitcher to hit him in a 2-2 game in the 6th. 

https://youtu.be/FtKmWa8jTCY

Yeah I was wrong on him running right to 1st base...but not like he charged the mound or anything (which I wouldn't have blamed him for if he did).

Pitchers have turned into such pussies.  They don't like someone celebrating a HR off them so they throw a 90 mph fastball at the guy.  If you don't like it, then get the guy out.  And there are plenty of pitchers out there (seems to be mostly relief pitchers) that celebrate a big strikeout with a fist pump or whatever....I don't hear any batters crying about that when it happens.  The whole thing is so ridiculous.

F Me In The Brain

Indifference71 said:

cutz said:

Don't think Anderson just went to first base after he was hit. Looks like he's talking shit too.  Agree it was dumb for the pitcher to hit him in a 2-2 game in the 6th. 

https://youtu.be/FtKmWa8jTCY

Yeah I was wrong on him running right to 1st base...but not like he charged the mound or anything (which I wouldn't have blamed him for if he did).

Pitchers have turned into such pussies.  They don't like someone celebrating a HR off them so they throw a 90 mph fastball at the guy.  If you don't like it, then get the guy out.  And there are plenty of pitchers out there (seems to be mostly relief pitchers) that celebrate a big strikeout with a fist pump or whatever....I don't hear any batters crying about that when it happens.  The whole thing is so ridiculous.

Could not agree more. 

(Actually, would love to see a batter throw his bat at a pitcher who does a stupid fucking dance or celebration coming off the mound to end the 5th inning when the bases were loaded or something.  Just once, to see how people reacted.  It is the same thing.)

HesCalledDyer

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:

cutz said:

Don't think Anderson just went to first base after he was hit. Looks like he's talking shit too.  Agree it was dumb for the pitcher to hit him in a 2-2 game in the 6th. 

https://youtu.be/FtKmWa8jTCY

Yeah I was wrong on him running right to 1st base...but not like he charged the mound or anything (which I wouldn't have blamed him for if he did).

Pitchers have turned into such pussies.  They don't like someone celebrating a HR off them so they throw a 90 mph fastball at the guy.  If you don't like it, then get the guy out.  And there are plenty of pitchers out there (seems to be mostly relief pitchers) that celebrate a big strikeout with a fist pump or whatever....I don't hear any batters crying about that when it happens.  The whole thing is so ridiculous.

Could not agree more. 

(Actually, would love to see a batter throw his bat at a pitcher who does a stupid fucking dance or celebration coming off the mound to end the 5th inning when the bases were loaded or something.  Just once, to see how people reacted.  It is the same thing.)

Haha, exactly!  No pitcher has gone on the DL for a bat flip.  Plenty of batters have gone on the DL for being thrown at.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:

cutz said:

Don't think Anderson just went to first base after he was hit. Looks like he's talking shit too.  Agree it was dumb for the pitcher to hit him in a 2-2 game in the 6th. 

https://youtu.be/FtKmWa8jTCY

Yeah I was wrong on him running right to 1st base...but not like he charged the mound or anything (which I wouldn't have blamed him for if he did).

Pitchers have turned into such pussies.  They don't like someone celebrating a HR off them so they throw a 90 mph fastball at the guy.  If you don't like it, then get the guy out.  And there are plenty of pitchers out there (seems to be mostly relief pitchers) that celebrate a big strikeout with a fist pump or whatever....I don't hear any batters crying about that when it happens.  The whole thing is so ridiculous.

Could not agree more. 

(Actually, would love to see a batter throw his bat at a pitcher who does a stupid fucking dance or celebration coming off the mound to end the 5th inning when the bases were loaded or something.  Just once, to see how people reacted.  It is the same thing.)

Throw his bat?  what are you kidding me?

Throw at the batter in the back.  I'm fine with that.

Celebrate a strikeout, HR, whatever.

If you celebrate then expect to be thrown at and when you do don't act tough and want to fight.  Go to first and take your free base because your OPS just went up.

Indifference71

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:

cutz said:

Don't think Anderson just went to first base after he was hit. Looks like he's talking shit too.  Agree it was dumb for the pitcher to hit him in a 2-2 game in the 6th. 

https://youtu.be/FtKmWa8jTCY

Yeah I was wrong on him running right to 1st base...but not like he charged the mound or anything (which I wouldn't have blamed him for if he did).

Pitchers have turned into such pussies.  They don't like someone celebrating a HR off them so they throw a 90 mph fastball at the guy.  If you don't like it, then get the guy out.  And there are plenty of pitchers out there (seems to be mostly relief pitchers) that celebrate a big strikeout with a fist pump or whatever....I don't hear any batters crying about that when it happens.  The whole thing is so ridiculous.

Could not agree more. 

(Actually, would love to see a batter throw his bat at a pitcher who does a stupid fucking dance or celebration coming off the mound to end the 5th inning when the bases were loaded or something.  Just once, to see how people reacted.  It is the same thing.)

Throw his bat?  what are you kidding me?

Throw at the batter in the back.  I'm fine with that.

Celebrate a strikeout, HR, whatever.

If you celebrate then expect to be thrown at and when you do don't act tough and want to fight.  Go to first and take your free base because your OPS just went up.

How is throwing a bat any different than throwing a rock hard ball 90 mph at someone?  

To expect to be thrown at because you celebrate is beyond absurd.  But I guess no one can have fun playing baseball....gotta respect the unwritten rules!!!  What a joke.

tempo_n_groove

Indifference71 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:

cutz said:

Don't think Anderson just went to first base after he was hit. Looks like he's talking shit too.  Agree it was dumb for the pitcher to hit him in a 2-2 game in the 6th. 

https://youtu.be/FtKmWa8jTCY

Yeah I was wrong on him running right to 1st base...but not like he charged the mound or anything (which I wouldn't have blamed him for if he did).

Pitchers have turned into such pussies.  They don't like someone celebrating a HR off them so they throw a 90 mph fastball at the guy.  If you don't like it, then get the guy out.  And there are plenty of pitchers out there (seems to be mostly relief pitchers) that celebrate a big strikeout with a fist pump or whatever....I don't hear any batters crying about that when it happens.  The whole thing is so ridiculous.

Could not agree more. 

(Actually, would love to see a batter throw his bat at a pitcher who does a stupid fucking dance or celebration coming off the mound to end the 5th inning when the bases were loaded or something.  Just once, to see how people reacted.  It is the same thing.)

Throw his bat?  what are you kidding me?

Throw at the batter in the back.  I'm fine with that.

Celebrate a strikeout, HR, whatever.

If you celebrate then expect to be thrown at and when you do don't act tough and want to fight.  Go to first and take your free base because your OPS just went up.

How is throwing a bat any different than throwing a rock hard ball 90 mph at someone?  

To expect to be thrown at because you celebrate is beyond absurd.  But I guess no one can have fun playing baseball....gotta respect the unwritten rules!!!  What a joke.

I'll throw a ball and then a bat at you and let me know what the difference is.  I'm sure it'll be pretty easy to decipher between the two.

I love celebrating in baseball and I also love that a pitcher can get revenge on a batter.

Don't want to get thrown at?  Celebrate in the dugout, get a curtain call.

Don't want to be showed up on the mound?  Get the batter out.

Indifference71

tempo_n_groove said:

Indifference71 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Indifference71 said:

cutz said:

Don't think Anderson just went to first base after he was hit. Looks like he's talking shit too.  Agree it was dumb for the pitcher to hit him in a 2-2 game in the 6th. 

https://youtu.be/FtKmWa8jTCY

Yeah I was wrong on him running right to 1st base...but not like he charged the mound or anything (which I wouldn't have blamed him for if he did).

Pitchers have turned into such pussies.  They don't like someone celebrating a HR off them so they throw a 90 mph fastball at the guy.  If you don't like it, then get the guy out.  And there are plenty of pitchers out there (seems to be mostly relief pitchers) that celebrate a big strikeout with a fist pump or whatever....I don't hear any batters crying about that when it happens.  The whole thing is so ridiculous.

Could not agree more. 

(Actually, would love to see a batter throw his bat at a pitcher who does a stupid fucking dance or celebration coming off the mound to end the 5th inning when the bases were loaded or something.  Just once, to see how people reacted.  It is the same thing.)

Throw his bat?  what are you kidding me?

Throw at the batter in the back.  I'm fine with that.

Celebrate a strikeout, HR, whatever.

If you celebrate then expect to be thrown at and when you do don't act tough and want to fight.  Go to first and take your free base because your OPS just went up.

How is throwing a bat any different than throwing a rock hard ball 90 mph at someone?  

To expect to be thrown at because you celebrate is beyond absurd.  But I guess no one can have fun playing baseball....gotta respect the unwritten rules!!!  What a joke.

I'll throw a ball and then a bat at you and let me know what the difference is.  I'm sure it'll be pretty easy to decipher between the two.

I love celebrating in baseball and I also love that a pitcher can get revenge on a batter.

Don't want to get thrown at?  Celebrate in the dugout, get a curtain call.

Don't want to be showed up on the mound?  Get the batter out.

I'm obviously not condoning throwing bats at pitchers but just pointing out that both that and intentionally throwing baseballs at guys are highly reckless acts that could cause serious injury.  And pitchers intentionally throwing at guys because they don't like the way they celebrated a home run is complete horseshit.  And it's even worse when it's an AL pitcher because usually they don't even have to bat.

But hey, you gotta respect the game!  Let's teach all the young kids that you can't have any fun playing baseball.  

F Me In The Brain

You could not hit me with a bat throw from mound to plate.  I could move out of the way.  If I was unable to dodge it I sure could block it effectively

Try blocking a baseball fired at 90+ mph.

The pitcher gets no opportunity to take one in the back in your model in lots of instances.
  (Relievers and AL pitchers)

Why is it ok for the pitcher to "show up" the batter but not the other way around?

F Me In The Brain

Try blocking a baseball fired at 90+, especially when you think you are meant to hit it. 

Bart Colon is the only pitcher who might be unable to dodge bat from home to mound.

(I can sense a bat dodge challenge bet coming out of this!      )

F Me In The Brain

I guess the batter could just run out and beat the shit out of the pitcher anytime they feel like it, but we certainly do not want that.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

You could not hit me with a bat throw from mound to plate.  I could move out of the way.  If I was unable to dodge it I sure could block it effectively

Try blocking a baseball fired at 90+ mph.

The pitcher gets no opportunity to take one in the back in your model in lots of instances.
  (Relievers and AL pitchers)

Why is it ok for the pitcher to "show up" the batter but not the other way around?

I know I could hit you with a bat from the plate, but that is for another time.

Batters have all the advantages now.  They don't expect to get thrown at and have no fear.  They dig in and don't get brushed back anymore.  I'm all for hitting batters just not at the head.

You forget how this works?  They throw at the teams best player if they don't like what the opposing pitcher did.

But hey, it's how the game is and always has been played.

Indifference71

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

You could not hit me with a bat throw from mound to plate.  I could move out of the way.  If I was unable to dodge it I sure could block it effectively

Try blocking a baseball fired at 90+ mph.

The pitcher gets no opportunity to take one in the back in your model in lots of instances.
  (Relievers and AL pitchers)

Why is it ok for the pitcher to "show up" the batter but not the other way around?

I know I could hit you with a bat from the plate, but that is for another time.

Batters have all the advantages now.  They don't expect to get thrown at and have no fear.  They dig in and don't get brushed back anymore.  I'm all for hitting batters just not at the head.

You forget how this works?  They throw at the teams best player if they don't like what the opposing pitcher did.

But hey, it's how the game is and always has been played.

How the hell does a batter have all the advantage when some jerkoff pitcher can throw it at them whenever they want?!?!?  Why should they have fear when they are batting???  That's absurd.

F Me In The Brain

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

You could not hit me with a bat throw from mound to plate.  I could move out of the way.  If I was unable to dodge it I sure could block it effectively

Try blocking a baseball fired at 90+ mph.

The pitcher gets no opportunity to take one in the back in your model in lots of instances.
  (Relievers and AL pitchers)

Why is it ok for the pitcher to "show up" the batter but not the other way around?

I know I could hit you with a bat from the plate, but that is for another time.

Batters have all the advantages now.  They don't expect to get thrown at and have no fear.  They dig in and don't get brushed back anymore.  I'm all for hitting batters just not at the head.

You forget how this works?  They throw at the teams best player if they don't like what the opposing pitcher did.

But hey, it's how the game is and always has been played.

We need to meet up for a Bat Dodge Challenge at some point, Chris.  If you drive down to Philly at some point, let me know and you can jump off the Turnpike.  Winner gets treated to a nice lunch or dinner. 

Also, I am 45.  In pretty good shape but would be happy to put a mask on and some gloves (just in case) and show that even an old man could dodge a bat at 60 feet 6 inches. 

I know about the 'hit their best player' but also think that kinda stinks. 

I'm also not one of those guys who wants to change all of the rules....I just think this is a silly tradition to keep.  Someone could get frigging killed.

Cliffy6745

F Me In The Brain said:

I guess the batter could just run out and beat the shit out of the pitcher anytime they feel like it, but we certainly do not want that.

If a pitcher gets 5 games for using the ball as a weapon then a batter should get 5 games if uses the bat as a weapon and beats the shit out of the pitcher.

Me?  I am fighting 10 times out of 10 if someone intentionally throws a ball at me.

F Me In The Brain

Cliffy6745 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I guess the batter could just run out and beat the shit out of the pitcher anytime they feel like it, but we certainly do not want that.

If a pitcher gets 5 games for using the ball as a weapon then a batter should get 5 games if uses the bat as a weapon and beats the shit out of the pitcher.

Me?  I am fighting 10 times out of 10 if someone intentionally throws a ball at me.

5 games for a pitchers means the start is pushed 1 day.  (For starters, at least)

And, I agree.  Maybe 9 out of 10 times if the pitcher is Chapman or some beast.       

Cliffy6745

F Me In The Brain said:

Cliffy6745 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I guess the batter could just run out and beat the shit out of the pitcher anytime they feel like it, but we certainly do not want that.

If a pitcher gets 5 games for using the ball as a weapon then a batter should get 5 games if uses the bat as a weapon and beats the shit out of the pitcher.

Me?  I am fighting 10 times out of 10 if someone intentionally throws a ball at me.

5 games for a pitchers means the start is pushed 1 day.  (For starters, at least)

And, I agree.  Maybe 9 out of 10 times if the pitcher is Chapman or some beast.       

haha, okay, so the batter gets one.

Oh yeah, forgot about that.  Solid point.

Cliffy6745

https://twitter.com/StelliniTweets/status/1119288437880889346

Indifference71

Cliffy6745 said:

https://twitter.com/StelliniTweets/status/1119288437880889346

They suspended him because of his language he used during the bench clearing scene.  Wow.  I guess you can't say any bad words if you get beaned with a 90 mph fastball!!  I don't even know what to say but I'll just blame this on Joe West.

tempo_n_groove

Indifference71 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

You could not hit me with a bat throw from mound to plate.  I could move out of the way.  If I was unable to dodge it I sure could block it effectively

Try blocking a baseball fired at 90+ mph.

The pitcher gets no opportunity to take one in the back in your model in lots of instances.
  (Relievers and AL pitchers)

Why is it ok for the pitcher to "show up" the batter but not the other way around?

I know I could hit you with a bat from the plate, but that is for another time.

Batters have all the advantages now.  They don't expect to get thrown at and have no fear.  They dig in and don't get brushed back anymore.  I'm all for hitting batters just not at the head.

You forget how this works?  They throw at the teams best player if they don't like what the opposing pitcher did.

But hey, it's how the game is and always has been played.

How the hell does a batter have all the advantage when some jerkoff pitcher can throw it at them whenever they want?!?!?  Why should they have fear when they are batting???  That's absurd.

This is where the game has changed.

The batter has the advantage in that he can crowd the plate and not have a fear of getting thrown at.  If the pitcher does then he will get a warning or even thrown out of the game.

That is what I mean by them having the advantage.

In the last 20 years or so this has changed but you still have occurrences like Stanton that get hit in the face which is what MLB wanted to and should have curbed.