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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    edited November 2022
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

    How’d that work out?

    I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
    back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 
    Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 
    Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,992
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    Andy Pettitte should be in. Over 100 games above .500. Good post season numbers with 5 World Series rings.
    His 3.85 career ERA works against him. only 2 guys in HOF higher.
    He's essentially Jack Morris (one of the aforementioned 2 at 3.90), but with the stank of steroids on him. If he was never associated with PEDs (or maybe I should say if his dad was never associated, lol), he'd have gotten in barely. 
    It was HGH
    Oh, so I guess Saint Andy should be in the HOF then. Only HGH, no advantage there.
    Well according to him it was just to recover from injury. Most who take steroids do it before they're injured. 
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    igotid88 said:
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    Poncier said:
    igotid88 said:
    Andy Pettitte should be in. Over 100 games above .500. Good post season numbers with 5 World Series rings.
    His 3.85 career ERA works against him. only 2 guys in HOF higher.
    He's essentially Jack Morris (one of the aforementioned 2 at 3.90), but with the stank of steroids on him. If he was never associated with PEDs (or maybe I should say if his dad was never associated, lol), he'd have gotten in barely. 
    It was HGH
    Oh, so I guess Saint Andy should be in the HOF then. Only HGH, no advantage there.
    Well according to him it was just to recover from injury. Most who take steroids do it before they're injured. 
    that’s what “nice guy” (he really is) matt williams said. he also said he didn’t like them, yet he ordered $18,000 more.

    matt williams did steroids????? yes, he did….but his “nice guy” status shielded him from much scrutiny.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    edited November 2022
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 
    Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 
    Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 
    Harper reportedly took less aav to sign with Phils. Giants and Dodgers offered more per year but less years. 

    and Jayson Stark said today that rumblings are Trea Turner wants to be in Philly.  He’s gonna be here 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

    How’d that work out?

    I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
    back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.
    It worked out pretty well. Lots of reports about Turner to the Phils, Cliff...
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  • pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

    How’d that work out?

    I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
    back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.
    It worked out pretty well. Lots of reports about Turner to the Phils, Cliff...
    Worked out well for Lee? I can’t think of more tangible evidence of “Oops, I picked the wrong team” than the 2009 World Series. And he pitched so great in that series. If he went to the Yankees, they probably sweep the series. Maybe in three games….somehow. 
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    edited November 2022
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

    How’d that work out?

    I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
    back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.
    It worked out pretty well. Lots of reports about Turner to the Phils, Cliff...
    Cool…congrats on the reports? And if he does it’s because they paid him they most.

    The conversation started because dude said someone is friends with someone, and that shit is hilarious. Money talks, that’s it
    Post edited by Cliffy6745 on
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 
    Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 
    Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 
    Harper reportedly took less aav to sign with Phils. Giants and Dodgers offered more per year but less years. 

    and Jayson Stark said today that rumblings are Trea Turner wants to be in Philly.  He’s gonna be here 
    Okay so he took the most money...
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    edited November 2022
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 
    Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 
    Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 
    Harper reportedly took less aav to sign with Phils. Giants and Dodgers offered more per year but less years. 

    and Jayson Stark said today that rumblings are Trea Turner wants to be in Philly.  He’s gonna be here 
    Okay so he took the most money...
    no he didn't. he took more years. He would have made more money taking a shorter deal from the Dodgers or Giants then getting paid with a 2nd contract. But who gives a shit at this point.  Turner is a lean to the Phils.  I would think a Yankees fan who went to a Phils World Series game might be excited at that prospect. 
    Post edited by pjhawks on
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 
    Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 
    Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 
    Harper reportedly took less aav to sign with Phils. Giants and Dodgers offered more per year but less years. 

    and Jayson Stark said today that rumblings are Trea Turner wants to be in Philly.  He’s gonna be here 
    I hope you guys get him. As a Giants fan, I don’t even want the ex-d**ger homophobe. he’s definitely talented, tho.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 
    Good chance Turner ends up in Philly 
    Very well may and if he does it’s because they paid him the most 
    Harper reportedly took less aav to sign with Phils. Giants and Dodgers offered more per year but less years. 

    and Jayson Stark said today that rumblings are Trea Turner wants to be in Philly.  He’s gonna be here 
    Okay so he took the most money...
    no he didn't. he took more years. He would have made more money taking a shorter deal from the Dodgers or Giants than getting paid with a 2nd contract. But who gives a shit at this point.  Turner is a lean to the Phils.  I would think a Yankees fan who went to a Phils World Series game might be excited at that prospect. Maybe he even signs before the USMNT flames out in the World Cup.
    Except he did take the most guaranteed money. 

    I’m not hating on the prospect of him going to the Phillies at all. I think they need pitching more, but it’d be great if he does. All I’m saying is that money talks and being friends with someone is borderline irrelevant. We can move on.


  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    pjhawks said:
    cutz said:
    Let's chat Free Agency..  Trea Turner and Rizzo stay.

    Buehler is out for the year so do they pick up another pitcher?

    Angels need a whole lot of help.  If that team is healthy they can hit.  Pitching?  well now...  It's time to bring some of them drafted on up.  They also need to be better or Ohtani will be bolting.
    Bogarts to the Phillies hopefully. Maybe Turner if they can't get Bogarts. 


    My guess if Turner leaves the LAD he'll be a Philly. He can leadoff for them too. 

    Bogaerts doesn't get resigned Boston fans are gonna lose it. But, they also NEED to sign Devers long-term. Should be interesting what the Sox do overall this Winter. 
    Turner's wife is best friends with Harper's wife.  Good chance Turner ends up in Philly unless someone blows him away with money.
    This is always my favorite narrative. So and so is friends with so and so. Every free agent is going where they get paid the most, period 

    How’d that work out?

    I believe when it all came out, they offered him the most money…go figure. Edit: This may not be true but I thought I read something a while
    back about all the offers. Can’t find it now.
    It worked out pretty well. Lots of reports about Turner to the Phils, Cliff...
    Cool…congrats on the reports? And if he does it’s because they paid him they most.

    The conversation started because dude said someone is friends with someone, and that shit is hilarious. Money talks, that’s it
    Cliff Lee took less money to play for the Phils instead of the Yankees. That is my point. God speed. 
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  • Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited November 2022
    Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    To go to a stacked Phillies team, closer to his home, and to play with one of his best friends.....and, yeah, Cliff, for lots and lots of money! lol

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  • Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    To go to a stacked Phillies team, closer to his home, and to play with one of his best friends.....and, yeah, Cliff, for lots and lots of money! lol

    GO PHILS!
    87 wins vs 111 wins is stacked?  How so?  Yes they went to the WS but the Dodgers look like the better team.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited November 2022
    Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    To go to a stacked Phillies team, closer to his home, and to play with one of his best friends.....and, yeah, Cliff, for lots and lots of money! lol

    GO PHILS!
    87 wins vs 111 wins is stacked?  How so?  Yes they went to the WS but the Dodgers look like the better team.
    lol

    95 win pace team after they fired Girardi. NL Champs. Loading up this off season. 

    I know it has been a while, but you folks need to get used to the annoying Phillie fan again. Buckle up. 
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  • Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    To go to a stacked Phillies team, closer to his home, and to play with one of his best friends.....and, yeah, Cliff, for lots and lots of money! lol

    GO PHILS!
    87 wins vs 111 wins is stacked?  How so?  Yes they went to the WS but the Dodgers look like the better team.
    20 games over .500 post-Girardi, though.
  • Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    To go to a stacked Phillies team, closer to his home, and to play with one of his best friends.....and, yeah, Cliff, for lots and lots of money! lol

    GO PHILS!
    87 wins vs 111 wins is stacked?  How so?  Yes they went to the WS but the Dodgers look like the better team.
    lol

    95 win pace team after they fired Girardi. NL Champs. Loading up this off season. 

    I know it has been a while, but you folks need to get used to the annoying Phillie fan again. Buckle up. 
    They are trending the right way.  Weird that they did a 180 AFTER Girardi left.

    I still think the Dodgers are the team.  Phillies have a 3 year window or so.  Enjoy the ride Juggs.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Joe Girardi sucks. He refused to give a lot of the younger guys who really helped them in the 2nd half of the season, and in the playoffs, much of a shot. 
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,447
    Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    That's a fair question. Maybe he just doesn't like it there? Issue with Roberts or teammates? Who knows? 

    He's a helluva player, though. Who ever gets him (or retains him) gets an immediate boost.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    He wants to be on the east coast, his wife is from this area and despite what Cliffy thinks he and his wife are good friends with Harper which does in fact matter.
  • Joe Girardi sucks. He refused to give a lot of the younger guys who really helped them in the 2nd half of the season, and in the playoffs, much of a shot. 
    That's been his MO in coaching now.  Same thing w the Yankees.
  • pjhawks said:
    Phillies would be a great fit for Trea.
    Why leave a stacked Dodgers team though?  They have a farm system to plug the holes needed, they just had a shitty Post Season.
    He wants to be on the east coast, his wife is from this area and despite what Cliffy thinks he and his wife are good friends with Harper which does in fact matter.
    That would mean that Judge will be West Coast bound then!

  • Because Wikipedia is the most reliable source lol. Free agents can't sign with other teams until 5pm ET today. He may very well sign with them this evening, but right now it's just a fan speculating on what he'll do.
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