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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    per jon heyman: Soler is expected to take a couple years before making big leagues. he's only 20. so NINE-yr deal makes sense. $30M total
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    Heyman says 9 years. I think that's a great deal.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.

    Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

    I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    81 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.

    Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

    I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:


    We pretty much don't have shit in the farm system except for Rizzo. Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters are only hitting in the .260's at AAA, and Vitters strikes out more than 1 per 4 AB's. Factor that in with the fact that there is a lot of old/bad contracts on this team, so they need to build up the farm with young guys. I'm fine with the move. Could it back fire, sure, but this guy is "projected" to be a 5 tool player, so it's worth the shot. I'd rather they be paying this kid the money than Soriano. This year is a write off, as well as next year and possibly 2014, so this kid will have plenty of time to get ready in the minors, and when he gets called up it may be on a team with low expectations.
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,821
    norm wrote:
    per jon heyman: Soler is expected to take a couple years before making big leagues. he's only 20. so NINE-yr deal makes sense. $30M total

    I think Soler should've been in the Draft.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    81 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.

    Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

    I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:


    They need this guy. :lol:


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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    kings win and now this :mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:
    The Dodgers and Andre Ethier are close to a completing an $85-million, five-year contract extension, CBSSports.com has learned.

    Ethier's new deal includes a sixth-year vesting option.

    The Ethier deal is the first big one for the new Dodgers regime led by Mark Walter, Stan Kasten and Magic Johnson. It is not believed to include a no-trade clause.

    Ethier would have been eligible for free agency after this season but now will remain a Dodger through at least 2017. Ethier leads National League with 52 EBIs and has 10 home runs and a .292 batting average for the first-place team.

    The Dodgers now have two of their "big three'' players locked up. They signed Matt Kemp to an eight-year, $160-million extension last winter.

    The new ownership group is committed to winning and is expected to expand the payroll from $90 million, a low total for a big-market team. The Guggenheim group paid $2.15 billion for the Dodgers, completing that deal with Frank McCourt in late March.
    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-h ... -year-deal
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    DS1119 wrote:
    81 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Soooo, Soler can opt out if he's good, it sounds like. Sounds like a lot of risk for the Cubs. Basically if he sucks, they are on the line for $30 million, if he's awesome, he opts out and gets arbitration and makes a whole lot more. Theo really wanted this kid.

    Theo would sign you if he thought you could hit above the mendoza line. :lol:

    I would expect the cubs to have alot of interest in every international FA. I'd be shocked if half this team is around next year at this time. They are so bad, the manger is saying they bad. :lol:


    They need this guy. :lol:


    ept_sports_mlb_experts-575294055-1279409985.jpg?ymBN9dDD0guFq9F7

    they need alot more than that.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    Oh lawd! Jose Valverde may have done spit into his mitt! Surely it's a sign of the apocalypse! Quick, send the owners to shelter. Light the Selig Signal. Make the game adopt gloves and balls that change colors when a foreign substance is absorbed. And for God's sake, someone find the asterisk and tell him the record books have a spot for him.

    Come on, folks, let's have a little perspective here. A pitcher spitting into his mitt is nothing new, scandalous, or even the best way to doctor a baseball. Why, with all the advances in ball doctoring technology available to today's modern player, hocking a loog on a baseball is like trying to kill an antelope with a sharp stick. I know we love to blow the Internet up with a good cheater story, especially one broadcasted by a hyper-attention craved player's wife, but this is hardly cause to unleash the fail whale.

    Every bullpen bag — the kind you see rookie relievers carting out to the pen pregame — is stocked with goodies that help ensure the Eddie Harris' of the world still have a fighting chance when they take the bump. I'm talking creams that make the ball spin, drop, stick, roll over and play dead.
    What's in that bag? Sunscreen combined with rosin, a mixture that produces on-the-fly finger Fixodent. Firm Grip, found in every training room, makes the ball hang from your finger tips. Well rubbed in shaving gel gives a little extra tack, but no so much that your hands suck up dirt and dust like chicken getting battered for deep-fry.

    Vaseline does the opposite. The ball slides out of your hand like a splitter and drops significantly more. If vaseline is too advanced for you, try Skin Lube, it's the gunk trainers stick under tape wraps so players don't chafe while playing. It doesn't gleam like vaseline so you can smear it under your cap brim without worry.

    Umps really watching you? Try Cramergesic or Red Hot. Burns a little, but it also leaves a nice slime in its wake. If you get asked about it, you can say it's medicinal. Plus, a mixture of lube and sweat works far better than spit or snot … unless you prefer snot, in which case, rub a little Red Hot in your nose and get it running good. Just don't get it in your eyes or you'll leave the game in tears regardless of your performance.

    Finally, there is always AstroGlide, or good old KY ... trust me, someone in the locker room has it in their locker.

    Did Valverde use the spitball technique? Maybe he did. But maybe he didn't. But who cares? I might have a bias for the boys on the mound since my own short career was one of doing everything I could to survive out there, but it's not like "putting a little something extra" on a pitch is a new thing. It's not even something to get upset about, even if we knew for absolute certain it was a cheating tactic.

    Most of the time, pitchers try to keep the ball clean so we can control what it's doing better from a default setting. That's the thing about throwing doctored pitches: They're advanced forms of the art. I respect a guy who can make a ball dance when it's got a foreign element on it. Goodness knows it's hard enough to make it do what you want when all conditions are perfect, but it's flat out masterful when you can make it dance covered in Vagisil or Crisco.

    If you insist it's cheating, that's fine, I can take it. But just so you know, some of the greatest pitchers of our time were excellent cheaters. Not every pitch, mind you. Maybe one pitch here, one pitch there; just enough to make sure it was in the mind of the hitter. After all, sometimes the best pitch in your repertoire is the one you never throw.

    If I were Valverde, I'd take this little Internet meme he's got going on and play it all the way up because distraction, doubt and suspicion are really the best doctoring agents of them all.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    harper just hit a missle. I can't stand him but he is gonna be pretty awesome
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    The Fixer wrote:
    harper just hit a missle. I can't stand him but he is gonna be pretty awesome

    That was a shot. He and Trout are going to be a lot of fun to watch for a long time. I just hate the damn Angels.
  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,821
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    harper just hit a missle. I can't stand him but he is gonna be pretty awesome

    That was a shot. He and Trout are going to be a lot of fun to watch for a long time. I just hate the damn Angels.


    I saw Trout play a couple of times in Highschool, and i saw Harper in Single-A. BOTH are scary good already.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,162
    Braves suck :evil:
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  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,113
    81 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:


    They need this guy. :lol:


    ept_sports_mlb_experts-575294055-1279409985.jpg?ymBN9dDD0guFq9F7

    they need alot more than that.

    This kid?

    RookieFull10.jpg

    Look at those chompers...

    Believe it or not, we just watched that last night. Gary Busey....Gary BUSEY is the romantic male lead for Henry's unhot mom. What the hell?

    MV5BMTYzMDQ2NjAyOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzYyNDgwMw@@._V1._SX640_SY440_.jpg

    Busey: "Listen Danny Glover, the concept of what you're dealing with is way over your head. I'm warning you......this ain't the Angels, its the fuckin' Cubs!"

    angels6.jpg

    And that folks, is full circle.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    vant0037 wrote:
    81 wrote:
    DS1119 wrote:


    They need this guy. :lol:


    ept_sports_mlb_experts-575294055-1279409985.jpg?ymBN9dDD0guFq9F7

    they need alot more than that.

    This kid?

    RookieFull10.jpg

    Look at those chompers...

    Believe it or not, we just watched that last night. Gary Busey....Gary BUSEY is the romantic male lead for Henry's unhot mom. What the hell?

    MV5BMTYzMDQ2NjAyOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzYyNDgwMw@@._V1._SX640_SY440_.jpg

    Busey: "Listen Danny Glover, the concept of what you're dealing with is way over your head. I'm warning you......this ain't the Angels, its the fuckin' Cubs!"

    angels6.jpg

    And that folks, is full circle.
    :lol::lol:

    How about Daniel Stern as his mentor? :lol:
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,290
    That's Two in a row for the Cubs. If they win three straight. That's called a winning streak. It has happened before.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,290
    if you have the baseball package, put the Giant game on. Bumgarner has 12 strikeouts in the seventh.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,137
    if you have the baseball package, put the Giant game on. Bumgarner has 12 strikeouts in the seventh.

    and the giants' first HR at home since may 14 :shock: :fp:
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    "That's a clown question, bro" - Bryce Harper

    :lol:
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,290
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    "That's a clown question, bro" - Bryce Harper

    :lol:

    handled it well, why do you think writers dislike most TV people who don't consistently show up in the clubhouse?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    "That's a clown question, bro" - Bryce Harper

    :lol:

    handled it well, why do you think writers dislike most TV people who don't consistently show up in the clubhouse?

    Yeha, I thought so too. What a stupid question.
  • FenwayFaithfulFenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    So glad the Yanks missed on Soler
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,137
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    "That's a clown question, bro" - Bryce Harper

    :lol:

    handled it well, why do you think writers dislike most TV people who don't consistently show up in the clubhouse?

    besides being underage, isn't he also a Mormon? :?
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,290
    So Matt Cain has 13 strikeouts through seven innings tonight..
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,162
    So Matt Cain has 13 strikeouts through seven innings tonight..

    And more importantly he's currently perfect.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,290
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    So Matt Cain has 13 strikeouts through seven innings tonight..

    And more importantly he's currently perfect.

    well I didn't want to say it, but the Giants have all the hits and runs.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    My Brewers suck.... Dear Christ....
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,162
    Perfect through 8. And his wife is smokin hot.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Perfect through 8. And his wife is smokin hot.
    Agreed.
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