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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    imalive wrote:
    some of you older posters may remember when the dod*ers were the relevant team in SoCal ;)

    what's it been? 10 years? :mrgreen:

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,139
    norm wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    some of you older posters may remember when the dod*ers were the relevant team in SoCal ;)

    what's it been? 10 years? :mrgreen:

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    250 million for what will probably amount to about 4 good years worth of service...i'm thinking artie will have to raise those low beer prices in the next couple years :lol::lol:
  • LizardLizard Posts: 12,091
    I could not agree MORE with your picture, Norm.

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  • polaris_x wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    So we're all agreeing it's Marlins/Angels for the 2012 World Series?

    hell no ... the FA's this year are not worth what they signed for ... not even close ...

    the added wild card spot makes a diff tho ... i don't see the marlins beating the phils for the NL East ... the Angels are in the same division as the Rangers ... so, they are gonna be looking wild card too ...

    I don't think they've added the 2nd Wild Card for 2012 as yet. It's definitely going in by 2013 - but it's undecided for 12.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    Sounds like the Marlins offered $275 million. Wow.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    I have seen many people saying Pujols will be wearing a Angels hat in Cooperstown. I don't know if I agree with that. Thoughts?
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I have seen many people saying Pujols will be wearing a Angels hat in Cooperstown. I don't know if I agree with that. Thoughts?

    can we wait until he plays at least one season before we talk about something that will happen in 15 years :lol::lol:
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    norm wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I have seen many people saying Pujols will be wearing a Angels hat in Cooperstown. I don't know if I agree with that. Thoughts?

    can we wait until he plays at least one season before we talk about something that will happen in 15 years :lol::lol:

    haha, true. From what I have read from Cards fans though, that is one of the things that seems to be most upsetting to them.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,033
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I have seen many people saying Pujols will be wearing a Angels hat in Cooperstown. I don't know if I agree with that. Thoughts?

    All depends. I think of Reggie White when I'm thinking of this - in Philly he's thought of as an Eagle, but I'd say country-wide he's seen as a Packer; about equal playing time with both teams. BTW, what team was he inducted into Canton with?
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I have seen many people saying Pujols will be wearing a Angels hat in Cooperstown. I don't know if I agree with that. Thoughts?

    can we wait until he plays at least one season before we talk about something that will happen in 15 years :lol::lol:

    haha, true. From what I have read from Cards fans though, that is one of the things that seems to be most upsetting to them.

    really? they're not upset they lost the centerpiece of their team but rather upset as to what cap he will wear into the hall? :lol::lol:
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    norm wrote:
    really? they're not upset they lost the centerpiece of their team but rather upset as to what cap he will wear into the hall? :lol::lol:

    I had the same thought when I read it.
  • jervin007jervin007 Posts: 3,182
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Sounds like the Marlins offered $275 million. Wow.

    Yeah, thats what I read. Just wouldn't include a no-trade clause. Rumored to have offered $100 million to Wilson too.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I have seen many people saying Pujols will be wearing a Angels hat in Cooperstown. I don't know if I agree with that. Thoughts?

    All depends. I think of Reggie White when I'm thinking of this - in Philly he's thought of as an Eagle, but I'd say country-wide he's seen as a Packer; about equal playing time with both teams. BTW, what team was he inducted into Canton with?

    Yeah, that's a good comparsion. I think of him as a Packer. I don't have a clue which team he went in as.

    Pujols will most likely have 11 seasons with the Cards and 10 with the Angels. The 11 with the Cards will most likely be better than the 10 with the Angels, unless he pulls a Barry Bonds. I would say he has to go in as a Card.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    jervin007 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Sounds like the Marlins offered $275 million. Wow.

    Yeah, thats what I read. Just wouldn't include a no-trade clause. Rumored to have offered $100 million to Wilson too.

    Yeah, I saw 6/95 for Wilson. They have to be pretty pissed right now.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Pujols will most likely have 11 seasons with the Cards and 10 with the Angels. The 11 with the Cards will most likely be better than the 10 with the Angels, unless he pulls a Barry Bonds. I would say he has to go in as a Card.

    well he won 2 (?) ws with the cards and will win none in anaheim so i think he'll go in as a card
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    norm wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Pujols will most likely have 11 seasons with the Cards and 10 with the Angels. The 11 with the Cards will most likely be better than the 10 with the Angels, unless he pulls a Barry Bonds. I would say he has to go in as a Card.

    well he won 2 (?) ws with the cards and will win none in anaheim so i think he'll go in as a card

    Agreed
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,033
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    norm wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Pujols will most likely have 11 seasons with the Cards and 10 with the Angels. The 11 with the Cards will most likely be better than the 10 with the Angels, unless he pulls a Barry Bonds. I would say he has to go in as a Card.

    well he won 2 (?) ws with the cards and will win none in anaheim so i think he'll go in as a card

    Agreed

    Between that lineup AND that pitching rotation I wouldn't speak too soon.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827

    Between that lineup AND that pitching rotation I wouldn't speak too soon.

    No doubt, that is a legit rotation. Best in the AL.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,871
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I have seen many people saying Pujols will be wearing a Angels hat in Cooperstown. I don't know if I agree with that. Thoughts?

    All depends. I think of Reggie White when I'm thinking of this - in Philly he's thought of as an Eagle, but I'd say country-wide he's seen as a Packer; about equal playing time with both teams. BTW, what team was he inducted into Canton with?

    i think baseball is the only sport that does it that way with a player going in with a certain team.



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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    The Angels offense is all Pujols though. The Rangers scored almost 200 more runs than the Angels last year. They were a pretty weak offense. No one batted .300. No one hit more than 30 HRs.

    Jared Weaver is awesome and Dan Haren is pretty good but doesn't scare me as a Rangers fan. I know CJ Wilson from all of his years here being a douche and making everything always about him all the time. He's great in the regular season but absolutely terrible when it counts. If you want someone to shut down Oakland in August, he's your guy.

    The rest of the rotation is who? Ervin Santana? Big deal. Who else?

    Pujols is 31 or whatever and the greatest player in the game right now. But let's see where he is in a couple of years. The Angels still can't hit and won't be able to protect him in the lineup.

    The Rangers basically swapped CJ for Feliz and added Joe Nathan and I bet they aren't done. Napoli and Beltre were added after the New Year last year. I wouldn't be shocked at them trading for a SP along the lines of Matt Garza.

    So you have basically the same Rangers team vs. an Angels team that added one bat (albeit the biggest bat you could want) and CJ Wilson. That will not make up a 10+ game deficit and -200 run differential. GIve me the Rangers in 2012 and watch me laughing at the Angels trying to unload a 35-year-old Pujols in 3 years like the Rangers did A-Rod several years ago.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,139
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The 11 with the Cards will most likely be better than the 10 with the Angels, unless he pulls a Barry Bonds.
    what are you trying to infer? :shock: ;)

    juice or no, I still think barry is/was the better player.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,139
    Flagg wrote:

    The Rangers basically swapped CJ for Feliz and added Joe Nathan and I bet they aren't done. Napoli and Beltre were added after the New Year last year. I wouldn't be shocked at them trading for a SP along the lines of Matt Garza.

    So you have basically the same Rangers team vs. an Angels team that added one bat (albeit the biggest bat you could want) and CJ Wilson. That will not make up a 10+ game deficit and -200 run differential. GIve me the Rangers in 2012 and watch me laughing at the Angels trying to unload a 35-year-old Pujols in 3 years like the Rangers did A-Rod several years ago.

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    imalive wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The 11 with the Cards will most likely be better than the 10 with the Angels, unless he pulls a Barry Bonds.
    what are you trying to infer? :shock: ;)

    juice or no, I still think barry is/was the better player.

    That most athletes don't have their best seasons at almost 40+ :lol:

    Yeah, at this point I would agree but we'll see where Pujols ends up. We are talking about 2 of the best ever though. Pujols has the edge (for now) in batting average while Bonds has him in OBP.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    imalive wrote:
    metsfan wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    what the fuck? did sandy slip something into brian sabean's drink?

    the giants traded torres for the same guy.....and threw in a good bullpen arm :x
    it was more bout getting the arm and getting rid of a locker room cancer. pagan wasn't well liked in the clubhouse and was in terry collins doghouse all season. hes a great player when he wants to show up.

    oh, great :x

    andres is just the opposite....very well liked

    altho 2010 was probably a total anomaly
    he also looked very lost in the field last year. made some plays that were wtf moments. could be he was just dogging it to get traded.
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  • interesting story on how the Pujols deal came about:

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball ... fbz0rj4jqq
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,827
    interesting story on how the Pujols deal came about:

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball ... fbz0rj4jqq

    That's a great articles. Reading about the inner workings of a front office and this stuff is just awesome. Baseball is the best
  • Cliffy6745 wrote:
    interesting story on how the Pujols deal came about:

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball ... fbz0rj4jqq

    That's a great articles. Reading about the inner workings of a front office and this stuff is just awesome. Baseball is the best


    That's what I'd like to see more of and do more of if I was given the resources to do so.
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  • pureocpureoc Posts: 2,383
    10 year deals are absolutely ridiculous for any baseball player, let alone one that's 32. The teams/ owners need to put the clamp down. If I was an owner I wouldn't give any offer over 5 years, it's way too big of a risk. Most of these long term deals never work out. It's a shame these agents are ruining the game with this ridiculous contracts.
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    norm wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Pujols will most likely have 11 seasons with the Cards and 10 with the Angels. The 11 with the Cards will most likely be better than the 10 with the Angels, unless he pulls a Barry Bonds. I would say he has to go in as a Card.

    well he won 2 (?) ws with the cards and will win none in anaheim so i think he'll go in as a card

    nostradamus....

    unless he wins 4 triple crowns in a row and a couple of titles....he goes in a card
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