UFO's Fact of Fiction ?

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Gob wrote:
    We have 5 senses we evolved with to tell us about the world around us. Some creatures don't even have that. Explaining a 6th sense to us, the ability to pick up on another dimension, would be like trying to explain what sight is to a creature that doesn't have or need it.




    Everyone is going to have an opinion, but we should all keep an open mind.


    The video is crazy. I don't know how anyone can watch those images and not be in wonder.


    what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    catefrances wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    Survival of the fittest isn't so in our society so much anymore, so we really aren't getting any smarter. Nothing is killing off dumber people.. in fact, they are more likely to keep reproducing.


    have you seen idiocracy?
    No, does it say we are de-evolving?

    Unless we can start genetically engineering ourselves, I don't see how at this point we can keep evolving is a good way.. Maybe eventually, but not in this time.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    catefrances wrote:

    i apologise if you think im simply being contrary. yes youre right it makes more sense that theyre probably govt aircraft rather than the alien spacecraft, but thats hardly a great stretch now is it? the fact is neither of these suppositions tells me that they are in FACT govt aircraft when the alternate choice is what some would consider fantastical based on the thought that we cant possibly be alone.
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    catefrances wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    We have 5 senses we evolved with to tell us about the world around us. Some creatures don't even have that. Explaining a 6th sense to us, the ability to pick up on another dimension, would be like trying to explain what sight is to a creature that doesn't have or need it.




    Everyone is going to have an opinion, but we should all keep an open mind.


    The video is crazy. I don't know how anyone can watch those images and not be in wonder.


    what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?
    Maybe.. I could believe that. Maybe that's the sixth sense? Many creatures are thought to have it.. but what about a 7th or 8th sense?
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Gob wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    Survival of the fittest isn't so in our society so much anymore, so we really aren't getting any smarter. Nothing is killing off dumber people.. in fact, they are more likely to keep reproducing.


    have you seen idiocracy?
    No, does it say we are de-evolving?

    Unless we can start genetically engineering ourselves, I don't see how at this point we can keep evolving is a good way.. Maybe eventually, but not in this time.



    idiocracy:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0yQunhOaU0





    perhaps we as human are as evolved as were going to get.
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  • LikeAnOcean
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    Commy wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    i apologise if you think im simply being contrary. yes youre right it makes more sense that theyre probably govt aircraft rather than the alien spacecraft, but thats hardly a great stretch now is it? the fact is neither of these suppositions tells me that they are in FACT govt aircraft when the alternate choice is what some would consider fantastical based on the thought that we cant possibly be alone.
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    Did you see the vid? Do you think we can do that stuff?


    I sure don't have faith we can.. but who knows.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Gob wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    We have 5 senses we evolved with to tell us about the world around us. Some creatures don't even have that. Explaining a 6th sense to us, the ability to pick up on another dimension, would be like trying to explain what sight is to a creature that doesn't have or need it.




    Everyone is going to have an opinion, but we should all keep an open mind.


    The video is crazy. I don't know how anyone can watch those images and not be in wonder.


    what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?
    Maybe.. I could believe that. Maybe that's the sixth sense? Many creatures are thought to have it.. but what about a 7th or 8th sense?

    haha whoa there.. lets just figure out whether there is a 6th sense before we go getting all excited about anything more. :lol:

    ive often wondered what deja vu is. im not saying its a sense, but when i get it, it makes me wonder.
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  • Stardog3..
    Stardog3.. Posts: 1,527
    I just watched a show on this. It brought to light a few interesting points. They wanted to base their conclusions on factual evidence. I don't want to mis-quote anything, but it was Brad Meltzer's Decoded. While I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing with anything they said or did in the show, I thought some points they made were very interesting.

    I thought the timeline of technological advances since the incident at Area 51 were interesting as well as some accounts of the men who actually were associated with the site.

    It's mathematically impossible to say that there is not any other life out there.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    edited December 2011
    to Idris...

    evolution...

    competition is found everywhere in nature. it is not necessary. that is one part of our evolution....instead of working against each other we will work together. a small part of what's to come, but i do believe i will rise above, jealousy, selfishness, greed, paranoia, all the bullshit that keeps us at war and at ends, i do believe we can transcend all of it.
    Post edited by Commy on
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Commy wrote:
    to Idris...


    competition is found everywhere in nature. it is not necessary. that is one part of our evolution....instead of working against each other we will work together. a small part of what's to come, but i do believe i will rise above, jealousy, selfishness, greed, paranoia, all the bullshit that keeps us at war and at ends, i do believe we can transcend all of it.

    :ugeek:
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Commy wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    i apologise if you think im simply being contrary. yes youre right it makes more sense that theyre probably govt aircraft rather than the alien spacecraft, but thats hardly a great stretch now is it? the fact is neither of these suppositions tells me that they are in FACT govt aircraft when the alternate choice is what some would consider fantastical based on the thought that we cant possibly be alone.
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    catefrances wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    We have 5 senses we evolved with to tell us about the world around us. Some creatures don't even have that. Explaining a 6th sense to us, the ability to pick up on another dimension, would be like trying to explain what sight is to a creature that doesn't have or need it.




    Everyone is going to have an opinion, but we should all keep an open mind.


    The video is crazy. I don't know how anyone can watch those images and not be in wonder.


    what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?

    Ever see the 'Through the Wormhole' series?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiFY-lma ... ata_player

    This one about our senses.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    catefrances wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    catefrances wrote:

    i apologise if you think im simply being contrary. yes youre right it makes more sense that theyre probably govt aircraft rather than the alien spacecraft, but thats hardly a great stretch now is it? the fact is neither of these suppositions tells me that they are in FACT govt aircraft when the alternate choice is what some would consider fantastical based on the thought that we cant possibly be alone.
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.



    I choose not to call you friend.....if you don't like how that decision comes across on this message board contact a moderator. I will not dumb down my views or change my approach.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Commy wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.



    I choose not to call you friend.....if you don't like how that decision comes across on this message board contact a moderator. I will not dumb down my views or change my approach.


    and thats fine. ive no problem with your decision and i wouldnt expect you to dumb down your views... i wouldnt expect that of anyone.
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Commy wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Commy wrote:




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.



    I choose not to call you friend.....if you don't like how that decision comes across on this message board contact a moderator. I will not dumb down my views or change my approach.

    Commy you want to "rise above" yet that post to Cate was well below.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    catefrances wrote:

    and thats fine. ive no problem with your decision and i wouldnt expect you to dumb down your views... i wouldnt expect that of anyone.
    yet you expect me to change my ways.


    this all started with your descartes quote.



    think first, then post, and we won't have these problems in the future.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Idris wrote:

    Commy you want to "rise above" yet that post to Cate was well below.



    yet you have no idea what this is about.



    i would happily debate evolution or war or peace or anything with you, but with this, you have no idea what this is about.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Idris wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    We have 5 senses we evolved with to tell us about the world around us. Some creatures don't even have that. Explaining a 6th sense to us, the ability to pick up on another dimension, would be like trying to explain what sight is to a creature that doesn't have or need it.




    Everyone is going to have an opinion, but we should all keep an open mind.


    The video is crazy. I don't know how anyone can watch those images and not be in wonder.


    what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?

    Ever see the 'Through the Wormhole' series?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiFY-lma ... ata_player

    This one about our senses.


    holy crap. that video goes for 43 minutes. guess ill be back later. :lol:
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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Commy wrote:
    Idris wrote:

    Commy you want to "rise above" yet that post to Cate was well below.



    yet you have no idea what this is about.



    i would happily debate evolution or war or peace or anything with you, but with this, you have no idea what this is about.

    Fair enough,

    But you did mention "working together" etc etc etc, nevertheless.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Idris wrote:

    Fair enough,

    But you did mention "working together" etc etc etc, nevertheless.
    alright. lets work together.





    i have no idea where you stand on aliens.

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