UFO's Fact of Fiction ?

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Commy wrote:

    i apologise if you think im simply being contrary. yes youre right it makes more sense that theyre probably govt aircraft rather than the alien spacecraft, but thats hardly a great stretch now is it? the fact is neither of these suppositions tells me that they are in FACT govt aircraft when the alternate choice is what some would consider fantastical based on the thought that we cant possibly be alone.
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Gob wrote:
    We have 5 senses we evolved with to tell us about the world around us. Some creatures don't even have that. Explaining a 6th sense to us, the ability to pick up on another dimension, would be like trying to explain what sight is to a creature that doesn't have or need it.




    Everyone is going to have an opinion, but we should all keep an open mind.


    The video is crazy. I don't know how anyone can watch those images and not be in wonder.


    what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?

    Ever see the 'Through the Wormhole' series?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiFY-lma ... ata_player

    This one about our senses.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:

    i apologise if you think im simply being contrary. yes youre right it makes more sense that theyre probably govt aircraft rather than the alien spacecraft, but thats hardly a great stretch now is it? the fact is neither of these suppositions tells me that they are in FACT govt aircraft when the alternate choice is what some would consider fantastical based on the thought that we cant possibly be alone.
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.



    I choose not to call you friend.....if you don't like how that decision comes across on this message board contact a moderator. I will not dumb down my views or change my approach.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Commy wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    i absolutely believe we are not alone.




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.



    I choose not to call you friend.....if you don't like how that decision comes across on this message board contact a moderator. I will not dumb down my views or change my approach.


    and thats fine. ive no problem with your decision and i wouldnt expect you to dumb down your views... i wouldnt expect that of anyone.
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Commy wrote:
    Commy wrote:




    yet i use my fucking brain like a reasonable person and realize its gov't craft doing these maneuvers. they've done it before, they are probably doing it now. are all UFO sightings gov't craft? maybe not. if i don't follow common sense, at least i'm gonna listen to history. they've fooled us in the past, i'm not gonna accept that this time.

    as soon as they open up black operations to the public let me know. i might then change my mind.


    calm down. i said it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft. but as ive not been fooled in the past by secret govt aircraft trials im not just gonna jump to that. if youre not happy rob i dont much care. i can think for myself and i can come to my own conclusions, just like you can. im leaning towards the same conclusions you have yet you attack me as if ive told you not to be so bloody ridiculous. i think you need to step back and think about whether you truly want to engage me because i will not allow you to have a go at me as if my opinion is not valid simply because im not fully agreeing with you.



    I choose not to call you friend.....if you don't like how that decision comes across on this message board contact a moderator. I will not dumb down my views or change my approach.

    Commy you want to "rise above" yet that post to Cate was well below.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984

    and thats fine. ive no problem with your decision and i wouldnt expect you to dumb down your views... i wouldnt expect that of anyone.
    yet you expect me to change my ways.


    this all started with your descartes quote.



    think first, then post, and we won't have these problems in the future.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Idris wrote:

    Commy you want to "rise above" yet that post to Cate was well below.



    yet you have no idea what this is about.



    i would happily debate evolution or war or peace or anything with you, but with this, you have no idea what this is about.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Idris wrote:
    Gob wrote:
    We have 5 senses we evolved with to tell us about the world around us. Some creatures don't even have that. Explaining a 6th sense to us, the ability to pick up on another dimension, would be like trying to explain what sight is to a creature that doesn't have or need it.




    Everyone is going to have an opinion, but we should all keep an open mind.


    The video is crazy. I don't know how anyone can watch those images and not be in wonder.


    what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?

    Ever see the 'Through the Wormhole' series?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiFY-lma ... ata_player

    This one about our senses.


    holy crap. that video goes for 43 minutes. guess ill be back later. :lol:
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Commy wrote:
    Idris wrote:

    Commy you want to "rise above" yet that post to Cate was well below.



    yet you have no idea what this is about.



    i would happily debate evolution or war or peace or anything with you, but with this, you have no idea what this is about.

    Fair enough,

    But you did mention "working together" etc etc etc, nevertheless.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Idris wrote:

    Fair enough,

    But you did mention "working together" etc etc etc, nevertheless.
    alright. lets work together.





    i have no idea where you stand on aliens.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Commy wrote:

    and thats fine. ive no problem with your decision and i wouldnt expect you to dumb down your views... i wouldnt expect that of anyone.
    yet you expect me to change my ways.


    this all started with your descartes quote.



    think first, then post, and we won't have these problems in the future.


    are you kidding me? i quoted descartes because i agree with what he says about the supposed common sense of man. you said UFOs actually being secret govt aircraft was common sense. i, whilst i see it as the most plausible explanation, happened to disagree that its simply common sense to think so. then you seemed to take offense upon my saying it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft given some would consider the alternative fantastical. it was not my intent to offend anyone, least of all you, by calling the existence of alien visiors fantastical. its just the way i see it.

    anyways ive got a video to watch.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Commy wrote:

    and thats fine. ive no problem with your decision and i wouldnt expect you to dumb down your views... i wouldnt expect that of anyone.
    yet you expect me to change my ways.


    this all started with your descartes quote.



    think first, then post, and we won't have these problems in the future.


    are you kidding me? i quoted descartes because i agree with what he says about the supposed common sense of man. you said UFOs actually being secret govt aircraft was common sense. i, whilst i see it as the most plausible explanation, happened to disagree that its simply common sense to think so. then you seemed to take offense upon my saying it makes more sense that theyre govt aircraft given some would consider the alternative fantastical. it was not my intent to offend anyone, least of all you, by calling the existence of alien visiors fantastical. its just the way i see it.

    anyways ive got a video to watch.


    of course i take offense to that. good luck fighting common sense.



    but to be clear, you came into my post. i was happy to ignore you.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Commy wrote:
    Idris wrote:

    Fair enough,

    But you did mention "working together" etc etc etc, nevertheless.
    alright. lets work together.





    i have no idea where you stand on aliens.

    I think that with the proper paperwork they should be allowed to stay, work and raise a family. Also I really don't care for the excuse that "the aliens will take all our jobs!"
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Idris wrote:
    Commy wrote:
    Idris wrote:

    Fair enough,

    But you did mention "working together" etc etc etc, nevertheless.
    alright. lets work together.





    i have no idea where you stand on aliens.

    I think that with the proper paperwork they should be allowed to stay, work and raise a family. Also I really don't care for the excuse that "the aliens will take all our jobs!"
    lol. eh, 2 jobs and no respect has gotta be worth something yeah? illegal or no, social security is in great shape/, according to Naom Chomsky from MIT. And given that, illegals should have access to social security, yeah?
  • what about intuition? would you consider that a sense of some kind?

    From Intellect To Intuition, Alice A. Bailey, 1932.
    Not only do the illuminists consider it a "sense", they consider it to be one that humanity as whole will have in a laregely enhanced capacity within the not so distant future. Those souls who stand on the "leading edge" of the spiritual evolution of our "life wave" already have this awakening capacity, and the rest will obtain it sooner than later.

    Interesting shit. By far her most accessible of 27 some odd books.
    :D
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