So to sum it up, faith in god is ok, but faith in other life forms existing is not (science/existence, etc). No need to discuss further as we all know where it leads and that whole routine.
WOW !!! xlnt prayer, I don't know who said it but I like it.
Godfather.
Unfortunately, God isn't listening and isn't on this guy's side, at least according to many hardcore conservatives.
Obama said it.
wow who woulda thunk it, very cool !
I believe that God listens to everybody and I also believe he knows what's in our hearts,hardcore conservatives or anybody else have no place saying who God dose or dose not love.
Godfather.
I like your reply.... You seem like someone who loves God-
I hope you can take his teachings and truly apply them to the real world..... The more you become like the teachings of Christ the more peaceful your life will be...... At least I see it that way...... I still need a lot of practice, but I am getting there......maybe one day.
No reason to beat a dead horse, though I must admit, your other comment about god and your beliefs about that tested my faith and will, so I will not to reply.
So to sum it up, faith in god is ok, but faith in other life forms existing is not (science/existence, etc). No need to discuss further as we all know where it leads and that whole routine.
faith Brother, I have seen what a little prayer can do but that's a story I'll keep.
Godfather
:thumbup: very cool.
Godfather.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I don't discount the possibility of other beings of some sort in the universe. The vast size and possibility would find it more likely than not that some type of being exists. That could be the smallest life form or something as complex as humans or even more evolved.
And I have always been one to believe that there is zero difference between the god and alien discussion. The possibility is out-there but we simply do not know and can't account for everything - just simply unknown - just like a god or alien. People who believe in aliens would probably agree, but people are are religious usually take offense. Aliens are so outlandish, but the thought of an invisible creator/puppeteer is absolute.. ha!
The vast size of the universe is also a good reason to believe that aliens haven't visited earth. I mean there is like an infinite number of solar systems out there. What are the odds that beings from another planet in another solar system was able to develop interstellar travel and then find us? Out of all the planets out there, the odds of them finding us are probably approaching zero.
On top of that in the 13 billion year history of the universe what are the odds that in the 2 million year history of humans (or bipedal human like primates) which is like a dot on a very long line, that life from another planet was developed enough to have space travel in and find our planet? I mean it is just as likely there was an alien species that evolved and went extinct long before humans ever started to evolve.
13 billion, i think you mean 6 thousand...and what is this evolve you speak of?
It certainly is a naive point of view to think there is no one else out there. the universe is huge...like sean hannity ego huge.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
While i firmly believe alien life to be a FACT (statistically speaking),
i am also of the opinion that THE PUSH TOWARDS ACCEPTANCE OF ALIEN VISITATION IN THE PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS AS OF LATE is squarely a Governmental CONTROL scheme.
All this horseshit about Annunaki, alien visitation, star men from Sirius, blah blah blah,
The hoax at Roswell, and all this other crap ...
I think it is a PLOY
to make us all *scared*
possibly to be acted out further in coming years, or decades (fake invasions? war of the worlds?)
possibly simply used to help subvert the christian faith and usher in a new secular \pagan era
(for how can one believe in the Bible AND aliens in a "fundamental" sense?)
or god knows for what other horseshit reason.
But i do NOT have any reason to believe that the generally understood "UFO" phenomena has ANYthing to do with visiting "aliens". If ANYthing, it is a result of highly classified GOVERNMENT projects.
Go look up "Nazi UFOs" on youtube. Go look up "Nazi Vril" then research "Vril" itself, understand the contextual reference involved. Understand that it is linked right back to all this "new age" and Aryan HORSESHIT. Something smells fishy, does it not !!??!!
Blech!
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
While i firmly believe alien life to be a FACT (statistically speaking),...
my father always told me that a fact is a lie and a half and statistically speaking after reading your post, i believe him to be correct.
meaning what?
Are you a bible fundamentalist (I hardly think so, knowing you)
or do you seriously disbelieve the statistical probability of alien life in the universe?
Or more likely, do you just REALLY REALLY get off on disagreeing with crazy old drifting,
who is here actually representing himself as mostly sane.
?
Recount of my position:
Aliens most PROBABLY do exist.
If they had visited this earth with the intent to make contact, WE WOULD KNOW.
All other accounts of their existence on THIS PLANET (in the remote past, near past, present, or soon to be) are either outright delusions, or more probably deliberately instituted control measures to keep us questioning our faith in biblical christianity (and hence in question of biblical MORALITY) and also in constant fear and necessity of BIG GOVERNMENT as a protective force.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
While i firmly believe alien life to be a FACT (statistically speaking),...
my father always told me that a fact is a lie and a half and statistically speaking after reading your post, i believe him to be correct.
meaning what?
Are you a bible fundamentalist (I hardly think so, knowing you)
or do you seriously disbelieve the statistical probability of alien life in the universe?
Or more likely, do you just REALLY REALLY get off on disagreeing with crazy old drifting,
who is here actually representing himself as mostly sane.
?
Recount of my position:
Aliens most PROBABLY do exist.
If they had visited this earth with the intent to make contact, WE WOULD KNOW.
All other accounts of their existence on THIS PLANET (in the remote past, near past, present, or soon to be) are either outright delusions, or more probably deliberately instituted control measures to keep us questioning our faith in biblical christianity (and hence in question of biblical MORALITY) and also in constant fear and necessity of BIG GOVERNMENT as a protective force.
first you said aliens are a FACT(statistically speaking)... now you have downgraded that to most PROBABLY. on what statistics are you basing your assertion?
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May 2: General Interest
1933 : Loch Ness Monster sighted
Although accounts of an aquatic beast living in Scotland's Loch Ness date back 1,500 years, the modern legend of the Loch Ness Monster is born when a sighting makes local news on May 2, 1933. The newspaper Inverness Courier related an account of a local couple who claimed to have seen "an enormous animal rolling and plunging on the surface." The story of the "monster" (a moniker chosen by the Courier editor) became a media phenomenon, with London newspapers sending correspondents to Scotland and a circus offering a 20,000 pound sterling reward for capture of the beast. yeah right !!!...
first you said aliens are a FACT(statistically speaking)... now you have downgraded that to most PROBABLY. on what statistics are you basing your assertion?
The title of the thread: "FACT or FICTION".
Duh.
I'm not imposing a dogma on you.
I'm just saying, statistically speaking, the UNFATHOMABLE SIZE OF OUR UNIVERSE makes the probability of intelligent life elsewhere so great that it would be hard to NOT believe in Alien life.
I suppose i jumped the gun, cause i wasn't meaning to imply UFOs as a fact, at ALL, but do mean that extraterrestrial life (in some form, not necessarily "intelligent") is so probable just on the basic statistic of the size of the universe that its a near fact. There is no meaningful way to calculate a "statistical probability" of live in the entire universe. it would be a nonsensical one. The probability of INTELLIGENT life within our Solar System IS a calculable statistic, and it is nearly ZERO.
Jump down my throat over nothing, why don't you.
I was just couching my response in the contrived A or B language of the thread title.
It didn't say "Fact, Near Fact, or Fiction".
Sheesh.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
what if "our" universe is just a cell inside another much larger "being"?
The whole world will be different soon... - EV
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
i'd like to believe they are real. it seems so ridiculously pompous and egoistic to claim that earth is the only planet to support intelligent life. The sky is so big. So many other galaxies. Billions of other galaxies like our own. Billions of stars. Billions of planets we dont even know about. Who are we to suggest, there isnt another planet that supports human or even non human intelligent life?
The government has acted in a way reguarding the UFO issue that is more than a little suspicious. Clearly something is happening at Area 51, either alien or non alien, but they wont even admit a base exists there. The way Roswell was dealt with was pretty outrageous. First they said it was "alien in nature", and "unidentified debris", then all of a sudden its "oh its just parts of a weather balloon".
On a side note my grandfather is a military guy, Brigadier general , helped build the B2, was the first person to fly the b 47, b50 and b52, worked at edwards and boeing and all that, and he doesnt think that ufos are real. whatever thats worth.
first you said aliens are a FACT(statistically speaking)... now you have downgraded that to most PROBABLY. on what statistics are you basing your assertion?
The title of the thread: "FACT or FICTION".
Duh.
I'm not imposing a dogma on you.
I'm just saying, statistically speaking, the UNFATHOMABLE SIZE OF OUR UNIVERSE makes the probability of intelligent life elsewhere so great that it would be hard to NOT believe in Alien life.
I suppose i jumped the gun, cause i wasn't meaning to imply UFOs as a fact, at ALL, but do mean that extraterrestrial life (in some form, not necessarily "intelligent") is so probable just on the basic statistic of the size of the universe that its a near fact. There is no meaningful way to calculate a "statistical probability" of live in the entire universe. it would be a nonsensical one. The probability of INTELLIGENT life within our Solar System IS a calculable statistic, and it is nearly ZERO.
Jump down my throat over nothing, why don't you.
I was just couching my response in the contrived A or B language of the thread title.
It didn't say "Fact, Near Fact, or Fiction".
Sheesh.
now its been downgraded to in some form not necessarily intelligent.
im not jumping down your throat... im always interested when someone asserts a FACT with as much conviction as you did. the probability may be a fact but that doesnt make it so.
some people have said its arrogant or egotistical for us to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe. and i have to wonder(after i stop laughing) how they measure intelligence and whether they consider humans to be the only intelligent beings on THIS planet. cause thats what i call arrogant.
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My viewpoint is this...
Earth is a small, terrestrial planet circling a mediocre star, in the arm of a mediocre galaxy. Also, it is currently orbiting a right sized star, at the right distance from it to sustain a diversity of life.
This was not always the case... and this condition has a time limit on it. Eventually, our Sun will die... just like any other star. Long before that time... we will be gone... long gone.
If we are the only life in the universe... that'll be it. A Lifeless Universe.
...
Instead, I think all of the ingredients for life are out there and when the right sixed rock is circling the right size star at the right distance... life can exist... for the brief period of the star's or planet's life.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
My viewpoint is this...
Earth is a small, terrestrial planet circling a mediocre star, in the arm of a mediocre galaxy. Also, it is currently orbiting a right sized star, at the right distance from it to sustain a diversity of life.
This was not always the case... and this condition has a time limit on it. Eventually, our Sun will die... just like any other star. Long before that time... we will be gone... long gone.
If we are the only life in the universe... that'll be it. A Lifeless Universe.
...
Instead, I think all of the ingredients for life are out there and when the right sixed rock is circling the right size star at the right distance... life can exist... for the brief period of the star's or planet's life.
you know there are aliens in other universes thinking the same thing.
perhaps were just under the dome people.
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you know there are aliens in other universes thinking the same thing.
perhaps were just under the dome people.
...
Actually... I don't know. And I KNOW I don't know.
I'm just applying the simple logic in my head to come up with some scenarios... one being, we are the only ones in the entire Universe... with billions upon billions of Stars... like our Sun. I don't think we are that unique.
And I don't know about alien life like us... that contemplate the Universe. Just life... of some sort... either 100,000,000 years ago or 100,000,000 years from now... or anytime in between.
My logic tells me... if we are it... in the entire Universe... what happens when we're gone? It becomes a gigantic waste of space.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
you know there are aliens in other universes thinking the same thing.
perhaps were just under the dome people.
...
Actually... I don't know. And I KNOW I don't know.
I'm just applying the simple logic in my head to come up with some scenarios... one being, we are the only ones in the entire Universe... with billions upon billions of Stars... like our Sun. I don't think we are that unique.
And I don't know about alien life like us... that contemplate the Universe. Just life... of some sort... either 100,000,000 years ago or 100,000,000 years from now... or anytime in between.
My logic tells me... if we are it... in the entire Universe... what happens when we're gone? It becomes a gigantic waste of space.
it was a 'giant waste of space' BEFORE the earth and our universe formed.
hear my name
take a good look
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well I've been looking........still no flying saucers or little green men
Godfather.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I certainly don't believe in your stereotypical flying saucer and little green men, but it would be horrendous to think that in a universe too vast to comprehend there wasn't other intelligent life.
Contact with an alien lifeform would always, and maybe in truth has been, denied. Can you imagine the reaction if the military came out and admitted they had?! Our preconceived ideas of alien life is either it's cute and makes friends or it's hellbent on conquering Earth. There is no space for a similar species to ourselves - intelligent, and living (for most of the time) fairly harmoniously.
The actual reality of "No, we are not alone" would set off a reaction worldwide that would probably be catastrophic.
why is it that a thread about UFO's is always challenged or rebutted with a persons believes in God ?
I think that most all people that believe that other life forms are real can't be a 100% sure of it cause there is no proof so they counter with "well what about YOUR God", is that the only thing they can come back with ?
the topic of this thread is about UFO's and the question is are they fact or fiction nothing else,people tend to get a little angry when their believes are challenged so they right away attack a others believes....come to think of it that is one reason there may never be world peace, the best we can do is meet on common ground I guess and respect each person and their believes,we can all learn something from each other if we are willing to try.
Because it's a different issue but the same exact logic, rational and fact that leads people to their opinion on those two matters. So it makes zero sense from a consistency standpoint that you say you believe and have faith in god, yet say for other life forms, you wait for proof. The same exact underlying premise, one you require proof, and the other one you say faith fulfills that requirement. That's why people bring it up - not solely to piss on someone's belief, but to point out the inconsistency in that process.
why is it that a thread about UFO's is always challenged or rebutted with a persons believes in God ?
I think that most all people that believe that other life forms are real can't be a 100% sure of it cause there is no proof so they counter with "well what about YOUR God", is that the only thing they can come back with ?
the topic of this thread is about UFO's and the question is are they fact or fiction nothing else,people tend to get a little angry when their believes are challenged so they right away attack a others believes....come to think of it that is one reason there may never be world peace, the best we can do is meet on common ground I guess and respect each person and their believes,we can all learn something from each other if we are willing to try.
Godfather.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Because it's a different issue but the same exact logic, rational and fact that leads people to their opinion on those two matters. So it makes zero sense from a consistency standpoint that you say you believe and have faith in god, yet say for other life forms, you wait for proof. The same exact underlying premise, one you require proof, and the other one you say faith fulfills that requirement. That's why people bring it up - not solely to piss on someone's belief, but to point out the inconsistency in that process.
why is it that a thread about UFO's is always challenged or rebutted with a persons believes in God ?
I think that most all people that believe that other life forms are real can't be a 100% sure of it cause there is no proof so they counter with "well what about YOUR God", is that the only thing they can come back with ?
the topic of this thread is about UFO's and the question is are they fact or fiction nothing else,people tend to get a little angry when their believes are challenged so they right away attack a others believes....come to think of it that is one reason there may never be world peace, the best we can do is meet on common ground I guess and respect each person and their believes,we can all learn something from each other if we are willing to try.
Godfather.
all games contain the idea of death-Jim Morrison..winners and losers,let me tell you why you'er wrong ?
listen and I'll tell you why I'm right ? every man has a need to feel power of his own liking this thread is a perfect example of that,with all due respect we will find out in the end..place your bet's now.
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:thumbup: very cool.
Godfather.
I like your reply.... You seem like someone who loves God-
I hope you can take his teachings and truly apply them to the real world..... The more you become like the teachings of Christ the more peaceful your life will be...... At least I see it that way...... I still need a lot of practice, but I am getting there......maybe one day.
So... in other words, "You've got nothing". No proof, but belief.
Hail, Hail!!!
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
13 billion, i think you mean 6 thousand...and what is this evolve you speak of?
It certainly is a naive point of view to think there is no one else out there. the universe is huge...like sean hannity ego huge.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
when you find a planet(aside from planet of the apes) that has a population let me know.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
i am also of the opinion that THE PUSH TOWARDS ACCEPTANCE OF ALIEN VISITATION IN THE PUBLIC CONSCIOUSNESS AS OF LATE is squarely a Governmental CONTROL scheme.
All this horseshit about Annunaki, alien visitation, star men from Sirius, blah blah blah,
The hoax at Roswell, and all this other crap ...
I think it is a PLOY
to make us all *scared*
possibly to be acted out further in coming years, or decades (fake invasions? war of the worlds?)
possibly simply used to help subvert the christian faith and usher in a new secular \pagan era
(for how can one believe in the Bible AND aliens in a "fundamental" sense?)
or god knows for what other horseshit reason.
But i do NOT have any reason to believe that the generally understood "UFO" phenomena has ANYthing to do with visiting "aliens". If ANYthing, it is a result of highly classified GOVERNMENT projects.
Go look up "Nazi UFOs" on youtube. Go look up "Nazi Vril" then research "Vril" itself, understand the contextual reference involved. Understand that it is linked right back to all this "new age" and Aryan HORSESHIT. Something smells fishy, does it not !!??!!
Blech!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Godfather.
my father always told me that a fact is a lie and a half and statistically speaking after reading your post, i believe him to be correct.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
meaning what?
Are you a bible fundamentalist (I hardly think so, knowing you)
or do you seriously disbelieve the statistical probability of alien life in the universe?
Or more likely, do you just REALLY REALLY get off on disagreeing with crazy old drifting,
who is here actually representing himself as mostly sane.
?
Recount of my position:
Aliens most PROBABLY do exist.
If they had visited this earth with the intent to make contact, WE WOULD KNOW.
All other accounts of their existence on THIS PLANET (in the remote past, near past, present, or soon to be) are either outright delusions, or more probably deliberately instituted control measures to keep us questioning our faith in biblical christianity (and hence in question of biblical MORALITY) and also in constant fear and necessity of BIG GOVERNMENT as a protective force.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
first you said aliens are a FACT(statistically speaking)... now you have downgraded that to most PROBABLY. on what statistics are you basing your assertion?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
1933 : Loch Ness Monster sighted
Although accounts of an aquatic beast living in Scotland's Loch Ness date back 1,500 years, the modern legend of the Loch Ness Monster is born when a sighting makes local news on May 2, 1933. The newspaper Inverness Courier related an account of a local couple who claimed to have seen "an enormous animal rolling and plunging on the surface." The story of the "monster" (a moniker chosen by the Courier editor) became a media phenomenon, with London newspapers sending correspondents to Scotland and a circus offering a 20,000 pound sterling reward for capture of the beast.
Godfather.
The title of the thread: "FACT or FICTION".
Duh.
I'm not imposing a dogma on you.
I'm just saying, statistically speaking, the UNFATHOMABLE SIZE OF OUR UNIVERSE makes the probability of intelligent life elsewhere so great that it would be hard to NOT believe in Alien life.
I suppose i jumped the gun, cause i wasn't meaning to imply UFOs as a fact, at ALL, but do mean that extraterrestrial life (in some form, not necessarily "intelligent") is so probable just on the basic statistic of the size of the universe that its a near fact. There is no meaningful way to calculate a "statistical probability" of live in the entire universe. it would be a nonsensical one. The probability of INTELLIGENT life within our Solar System IS a calculable statistic, and it is nearly ZERO.
Jump down my throat over nothing, why don't you.
I was just couching my response in the contrived A or B language of the thread title.
It didn't say "Fact, Near Fact, or Fiction".
Sheesh.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Without proof obviously we can't conclude wether it's fact or fiction, but if I'd had to guess I'd lean closer to fact.
RED ROCKS 6-19-95
AUGUSTA 9-26-96
MANSFIELD 9-15-98
BOSTON 9-29-04
BOSTON 5-25-06
MANSFIELD 6-30-08
EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
BOSTON 5-17-10
EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
PJ20 9-3-11
PJ20 9-4-11
WRIGLEY 7-19-13
WORCESTER 10-15-13
WORCESTER 10-16-13
HARTFORD 10-25-13
The government has acted in a way reguarding the UFO issue that is more than a little suspicious. Clearly something is happening at Area 51, either alien or non alien, but they wont even admit a base exists there. The way Roswell was dealt with was pretty outrageous. First they said it was "alien in nature", and "unidentified debris", then all of a sudden its "oh its just parts of a weather balloon".
On a side note my grandfather is a military guy, Brigadier general , helped build the B2, was the first person to fly the b 47, b50 and b52, worked at edwards and boeing and all that, and he doesnt think that ufos are real. whatever thats worth.
now its been downgraded to in some form not necessarily intelligent.
im not jumping down your throat... im always interested when someone asserts a FACT with as much conviction as you did. the probability may be a fact but that doesnt make it so.
some people have said its arrogant or egotistical for us to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe. and i have to wonder(after i stop laughing) how they measure intelligence and whether they consider humans to be the only intelligent beings on THIS planet. cause thats what i call arrogant.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Earth is a small, terrestrial planet circling a mediocre star, in the arm of a mediocre galaxy. Also, it is currently orbiting a right sized star, at the right distance from it to sustain a diversity of life.
This was not always the case... and this condition has a time limit on it. Eventually, our Sun will die... just like any other star. Long before that time... we will be gone... long gone.
If we are the only life in the universe... that'll be it. A Lifeless Universe.
...
Instead, I think all of the ingredients for life are out there and when the right sixed rock is circling the right size star at the right distance... life can exist... for the brief period of the star's or planet's life.
Hail, Hail!!!
you know there are aliens in other universes thinking the same thing.
perhaps were just under the dome people.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Actually... I don't know. And I KNOW I don't know.
I'm just applying the simple logic in my head to come up with some scenarios... one being, we are the only ones in the entire Universe... with billions upon billions of Stars... like our Sun. I don't think we are that unique.
And I don't know about alien life like us... that contemplate the Universe. Just life... of some sort... either 100,000,000 years ago or 100,000,000 years from now... or anytime in between.
My logic tells me... if we are it... in the entire Universe... what happens when we're gone? It becomes a gigantic waste of space.
Hail, Hail!!!
it was a 'giant waste of space' BEFORE the earth and our universe formed.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
we, each of us, are own our individual god. the sooner we learn this the better off well be.
take a good look
this could be the day
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Contact with an alien lifeform would always, and maybe in truth has been, denied. Can you imagine the reaction if the military came out and admitted they had?! Our preconceived ideas of alien life is either it's cute and makes friends or it's hellbent on conquering Earth. There is no space for a similar species to ourselves - intelligent, and living (for most of the time) fairly harmoniously.
The actual reality of "No, we are not alone" would set off a reaction worldwide that would probably be catastrophic.
well maybe someday you will ya never know.
Godfather.
I think that most all people that believe that other life forms are real can't be a 100% sure of it cause there is no proof so they counter with "well what about YOUR God", is that the only thing they can come back with ?
the topic of this thread is about UFO's and the question is are they fact or fiction nothing else,people tend to get a little angry when their believes are challenged so they right away attack a others believes....come to think of it that is one reason there may never be world peace, the best we can do is meet on common ground I guess and respect each person and their believes,we can all learn something from each other if we are willing to try.
Godfather.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
all games contain the idea of death-Jim Morrison..winners and losers,let me tell you why you'er wrong ?
listen and I'll tell you why I'm right ? every man has a need to feel power of his own liking this thread is a perfect example of that,with all due respect we will find out in the end..place your bet's now.
Godfather.