The official $92.05 is Too much Thread

theoceansmademe

force-10 wrote:

stranger34 wrote:

Another pet peeve of the sheeple

They argue all the business school BS and then they post something like this.

If I give 10 tennis lessons a week at $50 an hour and all my customers are happy - is it logical that I can do 5 tennis lessons at $100 an hour instead and expect the selected customers not only to be happy to be graced with my presence - but also more than glad to pay double what they used to?

This is obvious stranger. when this happens it´s the consumer that takes the hit.

Maybe as a tennis trainer your expenses don´t change and then definitely you will be ripping off your costumers. But in live entertainment business, it´s not even close to being the same. The lower amount of shows you put on on a tour, the more expensive each indivdual show is for the entertainment corporation, thus the more they have to charge for tickets, specially if they are not selling out 50 to 70 thousand seat venues.

Another thing nobody has to explain shit to us about ticket prices. Do you go into McDonalds and ask why if you buy a menu in the US, and then go to guatemala and the same menu is more expensive?

McDonalds is a publicly traded company so their books are open. They take questions from analyst every quarter.

Into 2003 a Big Mac cost $2.50-$3 in the US and today $3.50. Not $7

force-10

theoceansmademe wrote:

force-10 wrote:

stranger34 wrote:

Another pet peeve of the sheeple

They argue all the business school BS and then they post something like this.

If I give 10 tennis lessons a week at $50 an hour and all my customers are happy - is it logical that I can do 5 tennis lessons at $100 an hour instead and expect the selected customers not only to be happy to be graced with my presence - but also more than glad to pay double what they used to?

This is obvious stranger. when this happens it´s the consumer that takes the hit.

Maybe as a tennis trainer your expenses don´t change and then definitely you will be ripping off your costumers. But in live entertainment business, it´s not even close to being the same. The lower amount of shows you put on on a tour, the more expensive each indivdual show is for the entertainment corporation, thus the more they have to charge for tickets, specially if they are not selling out 50 to 70 thousand seat venues.

Another thing nobody has to explain shit to us about ticket prices. Do you go into McDonalds and ask why if you buy a menu in the US, and then go to guatemala and the same menu is more expensive?

McDonalds is a publicly traded company so their books are open. They take questions from analyst every quarter.

Into 2003 a Big Mac cost $2.50-$3 in the US and today $3.50. Not $7

Yeah, but do YOU go and expect to get an answer?

starmap3333

I'd pay at least 92.06. How about you?

youngster

Fuck that.

$92.05 was fine. If I had to pay $92.06 I wouldn't buy tickets. We're in a fucking recession here.

stranger34

force-10 wrote:

stranger34 wrote:

Another pet peeve of the sheeple

They argue all the business school BS and then they post something like this.

If I give 10 tennis lessons a week at $50 an hour and all my customers are happy - is it logical that I can do 5 tennis lessons at $100 an hour instead and expect the selected customers not only to be happy to be graced with my presence - but also more than glad to pay double what they used to?

This is obvious stranger. when this happens it´s the consumer that takes the hit.

Maybe as a tennis trainer your expenses don´t change and then definitely you will be ripping off your costumers. But in live entertainment business, it´s not even close to being the same. The lower amount of shows you put on on a tour, the more expensive each indivdual show is for the entertainment corporation, thus the more they have to charge for tickets, specially if they are not selling out 50 to 70 thousand seat venues.

Another thing nobody has to explain shit to us about ticket prices. Do you go into McDonalds and ask why if you buy a menu in the US, and then go to guatemala and the same menu is more expensive?

i get it, but the question really is who should take the hit, should the band take less profit or should the fans pay more for tickets... it's not like they are charging more to make cost, they are charging more to do less and make just as much/more per show.

work less-make more, it's a beautiful thing.

Wobbie

the COST of a Pearl Jam ticket has never had any relevance for me. I mean, fuck, they only tour every three years. :wtf:

Ledbetterman10

what a clever thread this is

Wobbie

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

what a clever thread this is

it beats 42 pages of bitching!

Spiritual_Chaos

Lets all support Peal Jams post 2003 greed!

Ledbetterman10

imalive wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

what a clever thread this is

it beats 42 pages of bitching!

I think people in that thread aren't really complaining about the ticket prices. I think they're just annoyed by the people who blindly defend PJ even though they've increased their ticket prices by more than 100% over the past 7 years. My "bitching" in that thread hasn't been in the vein of "I can't believe that PJ charges this much." My posts have been in the vein of "how can you people NOT see that the band has become greedy?"

Spiritual_Chaos

I think people in that thread aren't really complaining about the ticket prices. I think they're just annoyed by the people who blindly defend PJ even though they've increased their ticket prices by more than 100% over the past 7 years. My "bitching" in that thread hasn't been in the vein of "I can't believe that PJ charges this much." My posts have been in the vein of "how can you people NOT see that the band has become greedy?"

Are you implying it's actually a real thread? They are hard to come by between all the "please play song X in city Z"-threads

Gern Blansten

supply and demand

want lower ticket prices? then don't buy them....increase the supply and the price goes down

now shut up

dimitrispearljam

why now u dont bitching??

Ledbetterman10

Gern Blansten wrote:

why do you feel like they owe you an explanation?

I find it interesting that people like you make these observations yet you have absolutely no idea what the venues are charging the band to rent the facility, no idea what the band pays for travel/hotel/food for its crew now versus then, etc.

just shut up

Gern Blansten wrote:

supply and demand

want lower ticket prices? then don't buy them....increase the supply and the price goes down

now shut up

What's with these two posts saying to "shut up"? Why are you so bent out of shape over this? You say "want lower ticket prices? then don't buy them." And while that's a good point, I say that if you can't handle people voicing their opinions on a message board, you probably should get out of here.

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos wrote:

I think people in that thread aren't really complaining about the ticket prices. I think they're just annoyed by the people who blindly defend PJ even though they've increased their ticket prices by more than 100% over the past 7 years. My "bitching" in that thread hasn't been in the vein of "I can't believe that PJ charges this much." My posts have been in the vein of "how can you people NOT see that the band has become greedy?"

Are you implying it's actually a real thread? They are hard to come by between all the "please play song X in city Z"-threads

That's what I'm implying.

rb115565

There ticket prices are still pretty cheap compared to U2,The Police, Red hot Chili Peppers and just about everybody else who plays Arenas

Gern Blansten

shut up

TheVan218

$92.10 is where the line gets drawn.

Ledbetterman10

rb115565 wrote:

There ticket prices are still pretty cheap compared to U2,The Police, Red hot Chili Peppers and just about everybody else who plays Arenas

PJ tickets are more expensive than the Chili Peppers so you're mistaken on that one. And enough with comparing PJ's ticket prices to classic rock bands. Acts like U2, Paul McCartney, The Police, and The Who charge more than everyone and we just have to deal with it. When you compare PJ to their peers like Radiohead, Tool, and Green Day, you'll see that PJ charges more than they really should.

Gern Blansten

you're right....

I just can't believe the people that come on here and bitch about things they don't have all the facts about. They create this straw man that

a. ticket prices have gone up more than inflation

therefore

b. pearl jam has sold out and is ripping us off

no hard facts, no insight, no figures to go off of

whatever....have at it