Anyone who has the slightest notion that our human lives here on earth have ever been, are now, or will ever be anything even remotely resembling fair is delusional.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Anyone who has the slightest notion that our human lives here on earth have ever been, are now, or will ever be anything even remotely resembling fair is delusional.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Anyone who has the slightest notion that our human lives here on earth have ever been, are now, or will ever be anything even remotely resembling fair is delusional.
wow, a new low for you. who knew you had any farther to fall.
So I suppose you think companies should pay 75 cents an hour and work workers to death, right? I mean, life is not fair right, I mean they weren't born rich right? so...fuck em!
I also assume you support getting rid of child labor laws because they are just interfering with commerce. hey, if you weren't born rich...go FUCK yourself. life's not fair right
you see the way it used to work is we elect people to represent us, they make laws to PROTECT us from the corporations. Ohhh, but that's socialism! Respect for the value of workers, the contribution to a company. That's fairness
I got more, but I don't want to get banned by the likes of you.
Anyone who has the slightest notion that our human lives here on earth have ever been, are now, or will ever be anything even remotely resembling fair is delusional.
I can't believe we are lumping in "I starved to death in the wilderness" with " I starved to death in the richest country in the world because billionaires took all the jobs to a foreign country".
I can't believe we are lumping in "I starved to death in the wilderness" with " I starved to death in the richest country in the world because billionaires took all the jobs to a foreign country".
it's truly game over.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Anyone who has the slightest notion that our human lives here on earth have ever been, are now, or will ever be anything even remotely resembling fair is delusional.
I took knows answer to be
unfair: died of undetectable cancer at the age of 18
also unfair: died of cancer because i could not afford what every other civilized country provides because a company didn't want to lose profits.
shit does indeed happen (especially when someone intentionally makes it happen)
Damn conservitives....only if the world was 100% blindly liberal...we would be in a better place.
This is a good start to a better discussion. The almost complete majority of us would not want to live in either a 100% socialist country or a 100% laissez faire capitalist society (no roads, military, public lands parks, etc.). We need the best of both systems and we need the best of people in the government.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
Anyone who has the slightest notion that our human lives here on earth have ever been, are now, or will ever be anything even remotely resembling fair is delusional.
wow, a new low for you. who knew you had any farther to fall.
So I suppose you think companies should pay 75 cents an hour and work workers to death, right? I mean, life is not fair right, I mean they weren't born rich right? so...fuck em!
I also assume you support getting rid of child labor laws because they are just interfering with commerce. hey, if you weren't born rich...go FUCK yourself. life's not fair right
you see the way it used to work is we elect people to represent us, they make laws to PROTECT us from the corporations. Ohhh, but that's socialism! Respect for the value of workers, the contribution to a company. That's fairness
I got more, but I don't want to get banned by the likes of you.
Wow - where did you get all that from my two sentences about fairness?
I was pretty clear in what I said, but I didn't make mention of anything you're citing above.
Anytime I hear anyone mention something about fairness, I know that the rest of what they are saying is likely to be horribly misguided.
If life was even meant to be fair, then we'd all be the same height, weight, have the same parents, live in the same place, etc., etc., etc.
That is all I was saying and nothing else.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I think as long as the government is stealing from its citizens through corporate bailouts, the military industrial complex and similar, I do not care how long we have people on unemployment.
I posted this once or twice earlier on the....GASP...original topic:
How long do we keep extending benefits for jobs that are not coming back?
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Isn't a neverending payment cycle to people not working also a version of stealing from the tax paying citizens. I was and am opposed to any of the bailouts and the wars and financial support of the military.
I think as long as the government is stealing from its citizens through corporate bailouts, the military industrial complex and similar, I do not care how long we have people on unemployment.
I posted this once or twice earlier on the....GASP...original topic:
How long do we keep extending benefits for jobs that are not coming back?
good question...I have no idea...what's your answer...?
My answer is that we need to stop extending them at the same timeframe they always have ended them. Just because more people are unemployed is a reason to keep extending the benefits?
What the government should be doing is creating jobs, not paying people not to work.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I posted this once or twice earlier on the....GASP...original topic:
How long do we keep extending benefits for jobs that are not coming back?
good question...I have no idea...what's your answer...?
My answer is that we need to stop extending them at the same timeframe they always have ended them. Just because more people are unemployed is a reason to keep extending the benefits?
What the government should be doing is creating jobs, not paying people not to work.
the government is trying to create jobs...solar and wind power, infrastructure jobs, guess who opposes this because its too expensive? i'll give ya one guess...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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A friend of mine was working on a windmill, he said all the motors and generators are made in either Mexico, china, or Brazil.
So how does that create jobs? It creates temp construction jobs and maybe a few maintenance but again no manufacturing.
A friend of mine was working on a windmill, he said all the motors and generators are made in either Mexico, china, or Brazil.
So how does that create jobs? It creates temp construction jobs and maybe a few maintenance but again no manufacturing.
how would building new factories and waiting for us to manufacutre the parts expedite the process? to my eyes, it would be faster to get people back to work building the mills and at the same time getting factories built to begin manufacturing these necessary parts. why delay it when we can import the parts to get the ball rolling and get some people back to work?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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why create 0 jobs when we could create 2 which could eventually lead to five or more?
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
jobs are jobs and people need JOBS. i'm not going to debate semantics with you. either we create some jobs, or we don't...
I just don't believe our US stimulus plan that is funded by the taxpayers of this country should create jobs overseas when they could be creating jobs for Americans.
jobs are jobs and people need JOBS. i'm not going to debate semantics with you. either we create some jobs, or we don't...
I just don't believe our US stimulus plan that is funded by the taxpayers of this country should create jobs overseas when they could be creating jobs for Americans.
well what are you gonna do about it? i told you it would take years to build factories, why not import the parts and get people back to work immediately and build the factories while they are working on infrastructure??
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
jobs are jobs and people need JOBS. i'm not going to debate semantics with you. either we create some jobs, or we don't...
I just don't believe our US stimulus plan that is funded by the taxpayers of this country should create jobs overseas when they could be creating jobs for Americans.
abso-fucking-lutely!!
personally I don't see it as a difficult issue. Check this out...
If a company keeps 80% of their workforce and operations in the US = tax breaks.
If a company keeps 80% of their workforce and operations outside the US = penalties.
obviously this is an over simplification, but you get the idea.
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well what are you gonna do about it? i told you it would take years to build factories, why not import the parts and get people back to work immediately and build the factories while they are working on infrastructure??
You know we used to build this stuff, motors, generators, etc. I'm guessing a full factory build would not be required. Update some things and get to work, let's get Americans building America again.
well what are you gonna do about it? i told you it would take years to build factories, why not import the parts and get people back to work immediately and build the factories while they are working on infrastructure??
You know we used to build this stuff, motors, generators, etc. I'm guessing a full factory build would not be required. Update some things and get to work, let's get Americans building America again.
i will tell you that the ford plant that was here is now gone. it was bulldozed and its a parking lot for the airport now. the chrysler plant is closed here now, and there is talk that that is going to be demolished as well. the factories that are downtown are all unkept and are probaly violating codes of some sort, so its not like you can go in there, turn on the lights and fire up the machinery like nothing ever closed down before..
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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um...what...? :?
and I'd retain about 10% of my paycheck.
I'm sure this made sense when you typed it.
so, asking our representitives not to allow us to be butt fucked by corporations is asking for a 100% blindly liberal state of affairs?
theres no compromise where there could be an agenda of basic fairness?
If you were being sarcastic I apologize btw.
Anyone who has the slightest notion that our human lives here on earth have ever been, are now, or will ever be anything even remotely resembling fair is delusional.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
wow, a new low for you. who knew you had any farther to fall.
So I suppose you think companies should pay 75 cents an hour and work workers to death, right? I mean, life is not fair right, I mean they weren't born rich right? so...fuck em!
I also assume you support getting rid of child labor laws because they are just interfering with commerce. hey, if you weren't born rich...go FUCK yourself. life's not fair right
you see the way it used to work is we elect people to represent us, they make laws to PROTECT us from the corporations. Ohhh, but that's socialism! Respect for the value of workers, the contribution to a company. That's fairness
I got more, but I don't want to get banned by the likes of you.
I can't believe we are lumping in "I starved to death in the wilderness" with " I starved to death in the richest country in the world because billionaires took all the jobs to a foreign country".
it's truly game over.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Answer:
I took knows answer to be
unfair: died of undetectable cancer at the age of 18
also unfair: died of cancer because i could not afford what every other civilized country provides because a company didn't want to lose profits.
shit does indeed happen (especially when someone intentionally makes it happen)
This is a good start to a better discussion. The almost complete majority of us would not want to live in either a 100% socialist country or a 100% laissez faire capitalist society (no roads, military, public lands parks, etc.). We need the best of both systems and we need the best of people in the government.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
Wow - where did you get all that from my two sentences about fairness?
I was pretty clear in what I said, but I didn't make mention of anything you're citing above.
Anytime I hear anyone mention something about fairness, I know that the rest of what they are saying is likely to be horribly misguided.
If life was even meant to be fair, then we'd all be the same height, weight, have the same parents, live in the same place, etc., etc., etc.
That is all I was saying and nothing else.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
How long do we keep extending benefits for jobs that are not coming back?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
good question...I have no idea...what's your answer...?
fine...
when...?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
My answer is that we need to stop extending them at the same timeframe they always have ended them. Just because more people are unemployed is a reason to keep extending the benefits?
What the government should be doing is creating jobs, not paying people not to work.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
So how does that create jobs? It creates temp construction jobs and maybe a few maintenance but again no manufacturing.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
why create 0 jobs when we could create 2 which could eventually lead to five or more?
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I just don't believe our US stimulus plan that is funded by the taxpayers of this country should create jobs overseas when they could be creating jobs for Americans.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
abso-fucking-lutely!!
personally I don't see it as a difficult issue. Check this out...
If a company keeps 80% of their workforce and operations in the US = tax breaks.
If a company keeps 80% of their workforce and operations outside the US = penalties.
obviously this is an over simplification, but you get the idea.
You know we used to build this stuff, motors, generators, etc. I'm guessing a full factory build would not be required. Update some things and get to work, let's get Americans building America again.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."