thank you jim bunning republican kentucky...

A satellite forever orbiting
A satellite forever orbiting Posts: 1,888
edited March 2010 in A Moving Train
for blocking the unemployment deadline extension and screwing myself and millions of other americans. theres a special place in hell for scum like you.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    A satellite forever orbiting wrote:
    for blocking the unemployment deadline extension and screwing myself and millions of other americans. theres a special place in hell for scum like you.
    yep, kinda fucked up how one person can screw so many hundreds of thousands of people...i am sure he just won or lost re-election depending on what the unemployment numbers in KY look like....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    A satellite forever orbiting wrote:
    for blocking the unemployment deadline extension and screwing myself and millions of other americans. theres a special place in hell for scum like you.
    yep, kinda fucked up how one person can screw so many hundreds of thousands of people...i am sure he just won or lost re-election depending on what the unemployment numbers in KY look like....
    actually he is not running again, he can stick to his principles all he wants and does not have to worry about defending his position in a campaign...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • A satellite forever orbiting
    A satellite forever orbiting Posts: 1,888
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    A satellite forever orbiting wrote:
    for blocking the unemployment deadline extension and screwing myself and millions of other americans. theres a special place in hell for scum like you.
    yep, kinda fucked up how one person can screw so many hundreds of thousands of people...i am sure he just won or lost re-election depending on what the unemployment numbers in KY look like....
    actually he is not running again, he can stick to his principles all he wants and does not have to worry about defending his position in a campaign...

    he's not running again, so he can take a stand for the republican party. it's really partisanship over personal principles--i guarantee that. no...no...no...wah...wah...wah. thats the ideology of the current incarnation of the republican party. he's saying fuck you to the americans that are suffering due to his policy votes which helped create the depression in the first place.
    If nothing is everything, I'll have it all
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You will be getting it approved next week. He is trying to get them to cut wasteful spending. Yeah he is on his way out and Rand Paul is on his way in!
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010 ... hp?ref=fpc

    "Tough shit!" was Sen. Jim Bunning's (R, Ky) response to a request from another senator that he stop blocking the release of unemployment insurance funds for 1.2 million unemployed Americans.

    Bunning: My Obstruction Of Unemployment Extension Made Me Miss My Basketball Game
    Brian Beutler | February 26, 2010, 10:10AM

    Sen. Jim Bunning (R-KY) is widely understood to be one of the upper chamber's crankiest members. But his latest episode could keep thousands of out of work Americans from receiving unemployment insurance and COBRA benefits. And it comes at a time when joblessness is through the roof.

    Here's what's happening. Ninety-nine of the Senate's 100 members have agreed that people whose benefits are set to run out should be allowed to continue receiving them past the February 28 deadline. One senator--Bunning--disagrees. He says the benefits should only be extended if they're paid for with stimulus dollars. Democrats don't like that at all.

    If Bunning were to relent, the extensions would be granted automatically. But, per the Senate rules, any single member can throw a wrench into an otherwise universal agreement.

    Unsurprisingly, Bunning couldn't care less about any of it: "I have missed the Kentucky-South Carolina game that started at 9:00 and it's the only redeeming chance we had to beat South Carolina since they're the only team that has beat Kentucky this year," he said on the Senate floor.

    At one point in the discussion, Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), asked Bunning to drop his objection. Bunning, according to Politico, had a two word answer for his colleague: "Tough shit."

    Under normal circumstances Bunning's obstruction would be a minor headache. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid could force a vote to end the debate and the extensions would pass within a couple days. But February 28 is fast approaching, and most Senators are already back in their home states, meaning the benefits will likely not be renewed until the middle of next week.

    Bunning's objections led to a series of unusually angry exchanges on the Senate floor late into the evening last night--and Senate Democrats have been blasting Bunning for depriving his own constituents of needed assistance. But so far, to no avail.

    Republicans, for their part, may not have given Bunning their blessing. But they're not doing anything to stop him, and instead are blaming Democrats for not scheduling a vote earlier.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    He has a point.
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    unsung wrote:
    He has a point.


    about scheduling it so late? to that i'd agree, not sure if you meant something else, though.

    still, it seems kinda dickish to hold it up knowing it will just be passed later anyway. especially when many are probably relying on that for their mortgage/rent. and yeah, in some of those cases you can argue budget their money more wisely but why make it hard on them and the rest?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    unsung wrote:
    He has a point.
    what is his point? that a single asshole can grind the whole process to a halt and screw over the people that are depending on the unemployment benefit?? just because he wants to stand on principal and that he will never be held accountable to the voters again??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • A satellite forever orbiting
    A satellite forever orbiting Posts: 1,888
    unsung wrote:
    You will be getting it approved next week. He is trying to get them to cut wasteful spending. Yeah he is on his way out and Rand Paul is on his way in!

    no...actually his position is not getting them to cut wasteful spending. his point was clearly the deficit and what he called passing on debt to our grandchildren. the simple fact is that for every $1 that is given out in unemployment payments, $1.63 is pumped into the economy. so its actually a stimulus and in no way could be considered wasteful spending.
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,401
    I'm just surprised he had interest in something other than steroids in baseball. :roll:

    He's a dipshit.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    at least they made sure to get the patriot act renewed and on Obama's desk and signed before the end of the month...
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    And Obama did not hesistate to sign it.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,415
    unsung wrote:
    And Obama did not hesistate to sign it.
    and imagine the firestorm from the right wing if he hadn't.... :roll: ...they already say we are going to be destroyed by terrorists on his watch, so the man can not win. damned if he signs it, damned if he doesn't.....that is YOUR side influencing his decision...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    Enough of the EXCUSES, Bunning was not trying to cut the deficit, nor does he care about your grandchildren having to pay for the deficit.

    - Bunning knows this extension will get approved. Bunning's one and only point was to stick it to President Obama, Pelosi and Reid on his way out the door.

    - Bunning didn't give a damn about the PEOPLE who would be affected by 'his personal, vindictive action'. It's not just the unemployed, its also hard working taxpayers who will lose part of the income because of furloughs. Furloughs equal no taxes being paid into the deficit because no income is being generated.

    -Bunning forgot to tell all the people that HE, his family and his fellow Republican senators/representatives and their families would not get furloughed, would not have to dip into their savings, would not have to make scarfices until the bill is extended because Bunning and company aren't affected by this extension, they will all get their PAYCHECKS on time and in full.

    This self promotion, self preservation and just plain selfishness has reached a new level. Our so called elected officials don't care about the American people, it has become all about them trying to screw President Obama, Pelosi and Reid at any cost and regardless of the harm to the American public. It's not limited to the Republicans, the so-called conservative Dems are a party to this selfishness also.
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm not sure how it is for other states but in Illinois unemployment was funded equally by your previous employer and yourself. It lasted 26 weeks period. Now everyone wants it to be open-ended and paid some other way. For him to request the funds come from the stimulus package is not unreasonable. After all someone in this thread said for every $1 spent more than $1 went back to stimulate the economy.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    unsung wrote:
    I'm not sure how it is for other states but in Illinois unemployment was funded equally by your previous employer and yourself. It lasted 26 weeks period. Now everyone wants it to be open-ended and paid some other way. For him to request the funds come from the stimulus package is not unreasonable. After all someone in this thread said for every $1 spent more than $1 went back to stimulate the economy.

    no it's not unreasonable for him to ask...what's unreasonable is his holding up passage because he didn't get his way...

    as for the 26 weeks thing...yeah, you're right...I'm sure folks who can't find work after 26 weeks can live in a tent behind walmart...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    inmytree wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    I'm not sure how it is for other states but in Illinois unemployment was funded equally by your previous employer and yourself. It lasted 26 weeks period. Now everyone wants it to be open-ended and paid some other way. For him to request the funds come from the stimulus package is not unreasonable. After all someone in this thread said for every $1 spent more than $1 went back to stimulate the economy.

    no it's not unreasonable for him to ask...what's unreasonable is his holding up passage because he didn't get his way...

    as for the 26 weeks thing...yeah, you're right...I'm sure folks who can't find work after 26 weeks can live in a tent behind walmart...


    That isn't the point. The 26 weeks was what was the past standard and how it was funded. Why do I need to explain this further? It is pretty obvious that I was showing what my state has done. I never said the unemployment should end. But nothing should just be open-ended without a plan.

    If you want to fund it, make a specific place where the funds are coming from. That is what how I understand his actions. There is no reason it can't come out of the stimulus package.

    I do however find it quite fitting you chose Wal-Mart, kudos to you. Since Wal-Mart is partly to blame for the current crisis I think it is their responsibility they provide shelter.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    unsung wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    no it's not unreasonable for him to ask...what's unreasonable is his holding up passage because he didn't get his way...

    as for the 26 weeks thing...yeah, you're right...I'm sure folks who can't find work after 26 weeks can live in a tent behind walmart...


    That isn't the point. The 26 weeks was what was the past standard and how it was funded. Why do I need to explain this further? It is pretty obvious that I was showing what my state has done. I never said the unemployment should end. But nothing should just be open-ended without a plan.

    If you want to fund it, make a specific place where the funds are coming from. That is what how I understand his actions. There is no reason it can't come out of the stimulus package.

    I do however find it quite fitting you chose Wal-Mart, kudos to you. Since Wal-Mart is partly to blame for the current crisis I think it is their responsibility they provide shelter.

    I'm sorry, I thought "Now everyone wants it to be open-ended" meant that unemployment benefits should not be open-ended, therefore you meant that benefits should end at some point...I guess I was wrong...

    again, bunning can ask all day long, but once he's told no, I find it silly for him to take has ball and go home...making a point when so many are effected is self centered and stupid...

    as for your walmart comments, I'm not sure how to respond because I really don't get your point...
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm not going to say if the benefits should end or not but my point was that past practices had them funded in a specific way and end at a specific time. Since they are not ending in that time frame they should find a new way to fund the program. It makes sense to fund it with the current stimulus package.

    Just ignore the wal-mart line, it was just a comment that was intended to not have an answer.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    unsung wrote:
    I'm not going to say if the benefits should end or not but my point was that past practices had them funded in a specific way and end at a specific time. Since they are not ending in that time frame they should find a new way to fund the program. It makes sense to fund it with the current stimulus package.

    Just ignore the wal-mart line, it was just a comment that was intended to not have an answer.

    I agree with what you are saying here...I guess I take issue with mr. bunning's tactics...

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