This is very sad and all, but when you work with an animal called a "killer whale", what do you expect to happen?
Rightfully so You don't see or have any professional teams nicknamed killer whales. I can't believe they will continue these shows and people will continue to see them. I thought the only show I saw was great for my children but i won't ever be going back to see one.
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I remember watching a special once on killer whales and that the two main pods the Atlantic killer whales and the Pacific killer whales don't get along with one another. The special said that the Pacific killer whales which one of the posters earlier said this whale was originally are the ones who are known to have attacked trainers in captivity while the Atlantic ones have not. The Atlantic ones hunt different animals than the Pacific ones and are known to be more docile.
I remember watching a special once on killer whales and that the two main pods the Atlantic killer whales and the Pacific killer whales don't get along with one another. The special said that the Pacific killer whales which one of the posters earlier said this whale was originally are the ones who are known to have attacked trainers in captivity while the Atlantic ones have not. The Atlantic ones hunt different animals than the Pacific ones and are known to be more docile.
I remember watching a special once on killer whales and that the two main pods the Atlantic killer whales and the Pacific killer whales don't get along with one another. The special said that the Pacific killer whales which one of the posters earlier said this whale was originally are the ones who are known to have attacked trainers in captivity while the Atlantic ones have not. The Atlantic ones hunt different animals than the Pacific ones and are known to be more docile.
i think you're talking about resident vs. transient killer whales ...
I might be. I saw the special like three years ago so I'm no expert, but I just thought it was nuts that people actually swim with killer whales in the wild and the special said that there's never been an attack on any of the swimmers.
Rightfully so You don't see or have any professional teams nicknamed killer whales
What do you mean?
Well sort like we are given the impression that these whales are docile animals contained for our entertainment. Given the appearance they won't do us any harm. They are however wild animals who can be unpredictable. A tigers, lions we know can do us harm even though the same caged entertainment is done with them also. They from time to time have become unpredictable and lash out at their trainers too. something to me is getting more and more distasteful.
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This is very sad and all, but when you work with an animal called a "killer whale", what do you expect to happen?
Rightfully so You don't see or have any professional teams nicknamed killer whales. I can't believe they will continue these shows and people will continue to see them. I thought the only show I saw was great for my children but i won't ever be going back to see one.
peace
Well, they're not named the whales, but the Canucks jersey has a killer whale on it:
Rightfully so You don't see or have any professional teams nicknamed killer whales
What do you mean?
Well sort like we are given the impression that these whales are docile animals contained for our entertainment. Given the appearance they won't do us any harm. They are however wild animals who can be unpredictable. A tigers, lions we know can do us harm even though the same caged entertainment is done with them also. They from time to time have become unpredictable and lash out at their trainers too. something to me is getting more and more distasteful.
Peace
I see what you mean. I do think more and more people are 'clueing in' to the fact that they are indeed wild animals.
I dunno, it is only common sense to know a lion can kill you.
I remember watching a special once on killer whales and that the two main pods the Atlantic killer whales and the Pacific killer whales don't get along with one another. The special said that the Pacific killer whales which one of the posters earlier said this whale was originally are the ones who are known to have attacked trainers in captivity while the Atlantic ones have not. The Atlantic ones hunt different animals than the Pacific ones and are known to be more docile.
Well sort like we are given the impression that these whales are docile animals contained for our entertainment. Given the appearance they won't do us any harm. They are however wild animals who can be unpredictable. A tigers, lions we know can do us harm even though the same caged entertainment is done with them also. They from time to time have become unpredictable and lash out at their trainers too. something to me is getting more and more distasteful.
Peace
then you have the circus elephants that sometimes trip out and crush people while running amok all scared to death, depressed, and all fucked up.
those poor elephants get shot everytime this happens.
:(
I remember watching a special once on killer whales and that the two main pods the Atlantic killer whales and the Pacific killer whales don't get along with one another. The special said that the Pacific killer whales which one of the posters earlier said this whale was originally are the ones who are known to have attacked trainers in captivity while the Atlantic ones have not. The Atlantic ones hunt different animals than the Pacific ones and are known to be more docile.
I'm not sure I would want to do that but I have gone swimming snorkling with stingrays at Stingray City in the Grand Caymans. Now that was fun.
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Well sort like we are given the impression that these whales are docile animals contained for our entertainment. Given the appearance they won't do us any harm. They are however wild animals who can be unpredictable. A tigers, lions we know can do us harm even though the same caged entertainment is done with them also. They from time to time have become unpredictable and lash out at their trainers too. something to me is getting more and more distasteful.
I remember watching a special once on killer whales and that the two main pods the Atlantic killer whales and the Pacific killer whales don't get along with one another. The special said that the Pacific killer whales which one of the posters earlier said this whale was originally are the ones who are known to have attacked trainers in captivity while the Atlantic ones have not. The Atlantic ones hunt different animals than the Pacific ones and are known to be more docile.
wow... what a bunch of insensitive pricks some of you are. Lady loses her life doing something she loves and you act like she deserves it!? It's fine if you think Seaworld is wrong but wishing physical harm on their employees is F'd up...and wanting to see it happen is F'd up too!
And while zoos seem wrong there are good points to them too. A lot of kids get inspired to get involved in conservation and wildlife biology because of zoos, because it's the only way they will get to see these animals. They are also a good way to preseve the genetic library and many zoos are releasing raised animals back to the wild..the San Diego Zoo has done a lot of that here in Hawaii. Zoos are evidence of the failure of conservation, they are the last place to go for a lot of species, of course it would be better to donate your money to keeping these animals in the wild but for a lot of species it's too late. And there is an interesing commentary on zoos in the fiction "The Life of Pi" that supports zoos and states that animals are actually very content there...not sure I believe that but it's a perspective anyway.
wow... what a bunch of insensitive pricks some of you are. Lady loses her life doing something she loves and you act like she deserves it!? It's fine if you think Seaworld is wrong but wishing physical harm on their employees is F'd up...and wanting to see it happen is F'd up too!
And while zoos seem wrong there are good points to them too. A lot of kids get inspired to get involved in conservation and wildlife biology because of zoos, because it's the only way they will get to see these animals. They are also a good way to preseve the genetic library and many zoos are releasing raised animals back to the wild..the San Diego Zoo has done a lot of that here in Hawaii. Zoos are evidence of the failure of conservation, they are the last place to go for a lot of species, of course it would be better to donate your money to keeping these animals in the wild but for a lot of species it's too late. And there is an interesing commentary on zoos in the fiction "The Life of Pi" that supports zoos and states that animals are actually very content there...not sure I believe that but it's a perspective anyway.
wow... what a bunch of insensitive pricks some of you are. Lady loses her life doing something she loves and you act like she deserves it!? It's fine if you think Seaworld is wrong but wishing physical harm on their employees is F'd up...and wanting to see it happen is F'd up too!
And while zoos seem wrong there are good points to them too. A lot of kids get inspired to get involved in conservation and wildlife biology because of zoos, because it's the only way they will get to see these animals. They are also a good way to preseve the genetic library and many zoos are releasing raised animals back to the wild..the San Diego Zoo has done a lot of that here in Hawaii. Zoos are evidence of the failure of conservation, they are the last place to go for a lot of species, of course it would be better to donate your money to keeping these animals in the wild but for a lot of species it's too late. And there is an interesing commentary on zoos in the fiction "The Life of Pi" that supports zoos and states that animals are actually very content there...not sure I believe that but it's a perspective anyway.
wow... what a bunch of insensitive pricks some of you are. Lady loses her life doing something she loves and you act like she deserves it!? It's fine if you think Seaworld is wrong but wishing physical harm on their employees is F'd up...and wanting to see it happen is F'd up too!
Can you give some specifics of what you are speaking about?
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wow... what a bunch of insensitive pricks some of you are. Lady loses her life doing something she loves and you act like she deserves it!? It's fine if you think Seaworld is wrong but wishing physical harm on their employees is F'd up...and wanting to see it happen is F'd up too!
Can you give some specifics of what you are speaking about?
Peace
I think they are commenting on people saying "good whale" and "don't feel bad for the trainer", etc. While I don't wish ill will on any human, I don't see why anyone would think this is the whale's fault. or the jaguar's fault. or the elephant's fault. it's man's fault for thinking we can conquer nature.
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wow... what a bunch of insensitive pricks some of you are. Lady loses her life doing something she loves and you act like she deserves it!? It's fine if you think Seaworld is wrong but wishing physical harm on their employees is F'd up...and wanting to see it happen is F'd up too!
And while zoos seem wrong there are good points to them too. A lot of kids get inspired to get involved in conservation and wildlife biology because of zoos, because it's the only way they will get to see these animals. They are also a good way to preseve the genetic library and many zoos are releasing raised animals back to the wild..the San Diego Zoo has done a lot of that here in Hawaii. Zoos are evidence of the failure of conservation, they are the last place to go for a lot of species, of course it would be better to donate your money to keeping these animals in the wild but for a lot of species it's too late. And there is an interesing commentary on zoos in the fiction "The Life of Pi" that supports zoos and states that animals are actually very content there...not sure I believe that but it's a perspective anyway.
ziggy didn't want to see it, I believe, out of any morbid curiosity, I would just call it being interested in wildlife behaviour. nature vs man. I don't have an issue with that.
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I heard on one of the news programs this morning that Tilly was important to the park because he was used as breeding stock. He had sired a lot of calves there. Apparently it is no longer legal to take them from the wild so I guess captive breeding programs are important. Tilly was taken from the wild before it was illegal. Poor thing. He knows what it is like to be free, and now lives in a fish bowl.
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I heard on one of the news programs this morning that Tilly was important to the park because he was used as breeding stock. He had sired a lot of calves there. Apparently it is no longer legal to take them from the wild so I guess captive breeding programs are important. Tilly was taken from the wild before it was illegal. Poor thing. He knows what it is like to be free, and now lives in a fish bowl.
excellent quote in your sig.
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I heard on one of the news programs this morning that Tilly was important to the park because he was used as breeding stock. He had sired a lot of calves there. Apparently it is no longer legal to take them from the wild so I guess captive breeding programs are important. Tilly was taken from the wild before it was illegal. Poor thing. He knows what it is like to be free, and now lives in a fish bowl.
excellent quote in your sig.
Thank you.
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Check out the "moments before" video at CNN.com. Why are the trainers dressed as orca food (dahl's porpoises) and or play mates? That's a VERY poor choice of costume!
Also there are plenty of things named after orcas, which is their real name. Also where I live orcas are a huge part of First Nations culture and therefore widely respected here, as they have become a large part of the non First Nations culture as well. One of the Olympic mascots is half orca.
There are two main pods where I live and the get together every now and then because orcas don't mate with their relatives
Transient whales tend to be more aggressive than resident orcas.
The are nicknamed "killer whales" because they kill their food, which is extraordinarily rarely human. Calling them killer whales is like calling humans killer humans
Check out the "moments before" video at CNN.com. Why are the trainers dressed as orca food (dahl's porpoises) and or play mates? That's a VERY poor choice of costume!
Also there are plenty of things named after orcas, which is their real name. Also where I live orcas are a huge part of First Nations culture and therefore widely respected here, as they have become a large part of the non First Nations culture as well. One of the Olympic mascots is half orca.
There are two main pods where I live and the get together every now and then because orcas don't mate with their relatives
Transient whales tend to be more aggressive than resident orcas.
The are nicknamed "killer whales" because they kill their food, which is extraordinarily rarely human. Calling them killer whales is like calling humans killer humans
well, that IS sort of accurate, as not all humans are killers. unless you count those pesky meskeeters.
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An article I just read said Tilikum grabbed the trainer's ponytail and dragged her under the water...and was so aggressive rescuers couldn't jump in to save her...and they had to get Tilikum into a smaller pool then lift him out of the water to retrieve her body from his jaws!! Fuck that! I also read that the trainers were apparently barred from swimming in the water with him anyway and could only stand on platforms. Scary shit!
An article I just read said Tilikum grabbed the trainer's ponytail and dragged her under the water...and was so aggressive rescuers couldn't jump in to save her...and they had to get Tilikum into a smaller pool then lift him out of the water to retrieve her body from his jaws!! Fuck that! I also read that the trainers were apparently barred from swimming in the water with him anyway and could only stand on platforms. Scary shit!
Let that be a lesson to all you women out there who think ponytails are harmless.
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An article I just read said Tilikum grabbed the trainer's ponytail and dragged her under the water...and was so aggressive rescuers couldn't jump in to save her...and they had to get Tilikum into a smaller pool then lift him out of the water to retrieve her body from his jaws!! Fuck that! I also read that the trainers were apparently barred from swimming in the water with him anyway and could only stand on platforms. Scary shit!
Let that be a lesson to all you women out there who think ponytails are harmless.
The more you know...
I was kinda picturing him grabbing her in his mouth and throwing her around a bit out of the water first and then going under the water....definitely wasn't picturing the killer whale grabbing her by the ponytail! :?
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Rightfully so You don't see or have any professional teams nicknamed killer whales. I can't believe they will continue these shows and people will continue to see them. I thought the only show I saw was great for my children but i won't ever be going back to see one.
peace
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You can even swim with them in Norway:
http://www.orcasafari.co.uk/Snorkelling_Orca_Safari.asp
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i think you're talking about resident vs. transient killer whales ...
I might be. I saw the special like three years ago so I'm no expert, but I just thought it was nuts that people actually swim with killer whales in the wild and the special said that there's never been an attack on any of the swimmers.
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Well sort like we are given the impression that these whales are docile animals contained for our entertainment. Given the appearance they won't do us any harm. They are however wild animals who can be unpredictable. A tigers, lions we know can do us harm even though the same caged entertainment is done with them also. They from time to time have become unpredictable and lash out at their trainers too. something to me is getting more and more distasteful.
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Well, they're not named the whales, but the Canucks jersey has a killer whale on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Canucks
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I dunno, it is only common sense to know a lion can kill you.
thats pretty sweet
then you have the circus elephants that sometimes trip out and crush people while running amok all scared to death, depressed, and all fucked up.
those poor elephants get shot everytime this happens.
:(
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I'm not sure I would want to do that but I have gone swimming snorkling with stingrays at Stingray City in the Grand Caymans. Now that was fun.
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"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
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I've done that too and it was a lot of fun.
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And while zoos seem wrong there are good points to them too. A lot of kids get inspired to get involved in conservation and wildlife biology because of zoos, because it's the only way they will get to see these animals. They are also a good way to preseve the genetic library and many zoos are releasing raised animals back to the wild..the San Diego Zoo has done a lot of that here in Hawaii. Zoos are evidence of the failure of conservation, they are the last place to go for a lot of species, of course it would be better to donate your money to keeping these animals in the wild but for a lot of species it's too late. And there is an interesing commentary on zoos in the fiction "The Life of Pi" that supports zoos and states that animals are actually very content there...not sure I believe that but it's a perspective anyway.
To be fair, it was a "killer" whale.
Hey, hey, we can discuss this in a rationale and civil manner without all the harsh language.
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who wished ill will upon the trainer?
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Can you give some specifics of what you are speaking about?
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I think they are commenting on people saying "good whale" and "don't feel bad for the trainer", etc. While I don't wish ill will on any human, I don't see why anyone would think this is the whale's fault. or the jaguar's fault. or the elephant's fault. it's man's fault for thinking we can conquer nature.
nature is a tool, not a toy.
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ziggy didn't want to see it, I believe, out of any morbid curiosity, I would just call it being interested in wildlife behaviour. nature vs man. I don't have an issue with that.
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excellent quote in your sig.
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Thank you.
Also there are plenty of things named after orcas, which is their real name. Also where I live orcas are a huge part of First Nations culture and therefore widely respected here, as they have become a large part of the non First Nations culture as well. One of the Olympic mascots is half orca.
There are two main pods where I live and the get together every now and then because orcas don't mate with their relatives
Transient whales tend to be more aggressive than resident orcas.
The are nicknamed "killer whales" because they kill their food, which is extraordinarily rarely human. Calling them killer whales is like calling humans killer humans
well, that IS sort of accurate, as not all humans are killers. unless you count those pesky meskeeters.
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I was kinda picturing him grabbing her in his mouth and throwing her around a bit out of the water first and then going under the water....definitely wasn't picturing the killer whale grabbing her by the ponytail! :?
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