i stopped reading your post when you said "obama is the worst president in us history".
your post implies that you DO NOT think...to say a man is the worst in history after 13 months?? why not do a little google search and find out what i am talking about. if obama is the worst in history, you must be very young or very ignorant of the history of your own country....please give some examples for why the first year hs been a disaster on every level? everyone acts like our country is in the shitter right now, it is only because we are the leader of the free world and things are tough, things were much worse before we became a superpower...study your history and you will see how bad it has been before now. at least we are still one country and are not fighting each other in the streets...but with the obama hatred becoming hysterical these days i think we might not be far from it. i mean, texas was talking about secession less than a year ago...likewise, what was so great about reagan? you are roughly my age and people our age liked him because he was "like grandpa". what did he personally do to be held in such high regard by you and people our age, who admittedly knew NOTHING of politics or world affairs back then? is it nostalgia, or was there something concrete that he did to deserve it?? if he was so great, wouldn'y he be on our money or something??
lastly, your predictions are quite scary, do you have concrete evidence of this? what other predictions do you have??
How can you have concrete evidence of a prediction? Seems kinda hard to have concrete evidence of something that hasn't happened yet...hence the meaning of prediction.
I think it would be helpful to look at the cold hard facts about Reagan and compare them to Obama. Here's a few, you can ignore them if you want but they are fact:
1. As a % of GDP, Reagan's highest deficit was 5.88% in 1983, coming out of a recession that was arguably worse than the one that Obama inherited. Obama's deficits: 2009- 9.92%, 2010 10.64%.
2. Reagan tax cuts resulted in a net INCREASE in federal tax revenue. A huge increase. Using today's dollars, federal tax receipts in 1980 were $517 billion. In 1989 they were $991 billion. This should prove to everyone that tax cuts spur economic growth, resulting in a. (Those same numbers for the GWB admin? From about $2 billion in 2000 to over $2.5 billion in 2008. GWB never ran a deficit of more than 3.6% of GDP) Clearly, the Reagan tax cuts did not lead to an increase in the federal debt. And as far as Reagan cutting spending, he did not. Federal spending increased EVERY year of the Reagan administration. Maybe if he would have gotten spending under control we would have put him on our money or Mt. Rushmore by now.
Gotta run.
oh no, sarah is a victim again....seriously if you want to be perceived as a strong leader you have to stop with the phony outrage....the more often you complain and cry, the more you come off like a whiney little baby... if you are a public figure you are open to satire or ridicule, look at south park after all these years, still doing what they have always done...i am guessing family guy is going to keep up with the shots at her now...
JUNEAU, Alaska – Sarah Palin is lashing out at the portrayal of a character with Down syndrome on the Fox animated comedy "Family Guy."
In a Facebook posting headlined "Fox Hollywood — What a Disappointment," the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee and current Fox News contributor said Sunday night's episode felt like "another kick in the gut." Palin's youngest son, Trig, has Down syndrome.
The episode features the character Chris falling for a girl with Down syndrome. On a date, he asks what her parents do.
She replies: "My dad's an accountant, and my mom is the former governor of Alaska."
Palin resigned as Alaska governor last summer.
Palin's oldest daughter, Bristol, also was quoted on her mother's Facebook page, calling the show's writers "heartless jerks."
"When you're the son or daughter of a public figure, you have to develop thick skin. My siblings and I all have that, but insults directed at our youngest brother hurt too much for us to remain silent," she is quoted as saying.
"If the writers of a particularly pathetic cartoon show thought they were being clever in mocking my brother and my family yesterday, they failed," Bristol Palin added in the Monday posting. "All they proved is that they're heartless jerks."
Palin wrote that she'd asked her daughter what she thought of the show and Bristol's reply was "a much more restrained and gracious statement than I want to make about an issue that begs the question: When is enough enough?"
This isn't the first time Palin has spoken out over an attack, real or perceived, on her family. Last year, she condemned a joke David Letterman made about her daughter, for which he later apologized.
A "Family Guy" publicist didn't immediately return an e-mail seeking comment.
wait i'm confused :?
when rahm emmanuel or family guy says it, it's offensive
ruch limbaugh says it and it's satire?
seriously, does she have anyone with any common sense advising her? politics aside, if she really wants to be taken seriously she needs to stop speaking without thinking
i stopped reading your post when you said "obama is the worst president in us history".
your post implies that you DO NOT think...to say a man is the worst in history after 13 months?? why not do a little google search and find out what i am talking about. if obama is the worst in history, you must be very young or very ignorant of the history of your own country....please give some examples for why the first year hs been a disaster on every level? everyone acts like our country is in the shitter right now, it is only because we are the leader of the free world and things are tough, things were much worse before we became a superpower...study your history and you will see how bad it has been before now. at least we are still one country and are not fighting each other in the streets...but with the obama hatred becoming hysterical these days i think we might not be far from it. i mean, texas was talking about secession less than a year ago...likewise, what was so great about reagan? you are roughly my age and people our age liked him because he was "like grandpa". what did he personally do to be held in such high regard by you and people our age, who admittedly knew NOTHING of politics or world affairs back then? is it nostalgia, or was there something concrete that he did to deserve it?? if he was so great, wouldn'y he be on our money or something??
lastly, your predictions are quite scary, do you have concrete evidence of this? what other predictions do you have??
How can you have concrete evidence of a prediction? Seems kinda hard to have concrete evidence of something that hasn't happened yet...hence the meaning of prediction.
I think it would be helpful to look at the cold hard facts about Reagan and compare them to Obama. Here's a few, you can ignore them if you want but they are fact:
1. As a % of GDP, Reagan's highest deficit was 5.88% in 1983, coming out of a recession that was arguably worse than the one that Obama inherited. Obama's deficits: 2009- 9.92%, 2010 10.64%.
2. Reagan tax cuts resulted in a net INCREASE in federal tax revenue. A huge increase. Using today's dollars, federal tax receipts in 1980 were $517 billion. In 1989 they were $991 billion. This should prove to everyone that tax cuts spur economic growth, resulting in a. (Those same numbers for the GWB admin? From about $2 billion in 2000 to over $2.5 billion in 2008. GWB never ran a deficit of more than 3.6% of GDP) Clearly, the Reagan tax cuts did not lead to an increase in the federal debt. And as far as Reagan cutting spending, he did not. Federal spending increased EVERY year of the Reagan administration. Maybe if he would have gotten spending under control we would have put him on our money or Mt. Rushmore by now.
Gotta run.
actually the tax cuts did increase the federal debt....in just took several years for it to happen
taxes should have been increased to keep up with spending....especially during the GWB years....didn't happen
Obama either had to institute a massive tax increase during the recession, cut spending on defense and education or submit a deficit budget.
Which would you prefer?
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actually the tax cuts did increase the federal debt....in just took several years for it to happen
taxes should have been increased to keep up with spending....especially during the GWB years....didn't happen
Obama either had to institute a massive tax increase during the recession, cut spending on defense and education or submit a deficit budget.
Which would you prefer?[/quote]
My last post provided numbers regarding tax receipts. I don't know how much clearer it could be that the tax cuts were not to blame, spending was to blame.
I disagree about increasing taxes to keep up with spending. How about keeping spending under control, not spending more than you take in? I guess that's a radical idea. I can't just snap my fingers and earn more money because I decide to spend more, the same principle should apply to the government.
To use a term the president likes to use, the last statement was a "false choice". Obama had options, the stimulus is going to cost us over $850 billion, and that's before the interest (since all the money was borrowed...), and he wanted to spend another trillion on health care that even his own party found too irresponsible to enact despite supermajorities.
Sure, there was no realistic way to submit a balanced budget in Obama's first year, but look at his long-term budget projections. According to his own numbers, he does not plan to run a deficit of less than 1/2 Trillion in any year for the next decade. By the end of his administration the national debt could equal our GDP. That spells disaster.
yes well remember that when Obama took office Bush's budget was still in effect.....Bush had used projections that the economy would recover slightly and that the revenues would be much higher than they were
Obama presented what appears to be a realistic budget
why can't you use the quote function correctly?
anyway....spending was obviously at large levels for Reagan as tax rates were very high....he stimulated the economy by cutting taxes drastically and yes that worked for a few years....
as I said...even GB1st was smart enough to realize that taxes needed to be increased....but look what happened...they crucified him
GB2nd obviously expanded the government spending tremendously and did not raise taxes
Now Obama is stating that we need to raise taxes and you turds are crapping your pants....we HAVE to raise taxes
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yes well remember that when Obama took office Bush's budget was still in effect.....Bush had used projections that the economy would recover slightly and that the revenues would be much higher than they were
Obama presented what appears to be a realistic budget
why can't you use the quote function correctly?
anyway....spending was obviously at large levels for Reagan as tax rates were very high....he stimulated the economy by cutting taxes drastically and yes that worked for a few years....
as I said...even GB1st was smart enough to realize that taxes needed to be increased....but look what happened...they crucified him
GB2nd obviously expanded the government spending tremendously and did not raise taxes
Now Obama is stating that we need to raise taxes and you turds are crapping your pants....we HAVE to raise taxes
"You turds?" OK, thought we were having a reasonable discussion here. Nevermind, once the name calling starts I'm out.
I hear you're pondering a run for the White House in 2012. Last week, you told Fox news it would be "absurd" to rule it out.
I'm writing to ask that you rule it in. I very badly want you to run for — and win — the Republican nomination for the presidency.
I know you're waiting for the punch line. Maybe you figure I think you'd be a weak candidate who would pave the way for President Obama's easy re-election.
That's not it. No, I want you to run because I believe a Palin candidacy would force upon this country a desperately needed moment of truth. It would require us to finally decide what kind of America we want to be.
Mrs. Palin, you are an avatar of the shameless hypocrisy and cognitive disconnection that have driven our politics for the last decade, a process of stupidification creeping like kudzu over our national life.
As Exhibit A, consider your recent speech at a so-called "tea party" event, wherein you dismissed the president as a "charismatic guy with a teleprompter." Bad enough you imply that teleprompter use is the mark of an insubstantial man, even though you and every other major politician uses them. But what made the comment truly jaw-dropping is that even as you spoke, you had penned on your left palm, clearly visible, a series of crib notes.
Mrs. Palin, if Obama is an idiot for reading a prepared speech off a teleprompter, what are you for reading notes you've inked on your hand like a school kid who failed to study for the big test?
In the Fox interview, you scored Obama for supposedly expecting Americans to "sit down and shut up" and accept his policies. But when asked when the president has ever said that, you couldn't answer. Obama, you sputtered, has just been condescending with his "general persona."
I found that a telling moment. See, ultimately what you represent is not conservatism. Heck, I suspect that somewhere, Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan are spinning like helicopter rotors at the very idea.
No, you represent the latest iteration of an anti-intellectualism that periodically rises in the American character. There is, historically and persistently, a belief in us that y'all just can't trust nobody who acts too smart or talks too good — in other words, somebody whose "general persona" indicates they may have once cracked a book or had a thought. Americans tend to believe common sense the exclusive province of humble folks without sheepskins on the wall or big words in their vocabularies.
I don't mock those people. They are my parents, my family elders, members of my childhood church. I honor their native good sense, what mom called "mother wit." But if it is insulting to condescend to them, it is equally insulting to mythologize them.
More to the point, something is wrong when we celebrate mental mediocrity like yours under the misapprehension that competence or, God forbid, intelligence, makes a person one of those "elites" — that's a curse word now --— lacking authenticity, compassion and common sense.
So no, this is not a clash of ideologies, but a clash between intelligence and its opposite. And I am tired of being asked to pretend stupid is a virtue. That's why I'd welcome the moment of truth your campaign would bring. It would force us to decide once and for all whether we are permanently committed to the path of ignorance, of birthers, truthers and tea party incoherence you represent, or whether we will at last turn back from the cliff toward which we race.
If the latter, wonderful, God bless America. If the former, well, some of us can finally quit hoping the nation will return to its senses and plan accordingly. Either way, we need to know, and your candidacy would tell us. If you love this country, Mrs. Palin, you can do it no greater service.
Run, Sarah, run.
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The Politics Of Rich And Poor: Wealth And The American Electorate In The Reagan Aftermath by Kevin Phillips
From Publishers Weekly
Economic analysis and historical comparisons blend to show that Reagan's presidency left a huge concentration of wealth at the top that harms the poor, adds to the mounting debt and allows foreigners to grab large chunks of America. "A stunning refutation of George Gilder's Wealth and Poverty , Phillips's dispassionate report offers no solutions yet zeros in on key problems," said PW.
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In this extremely readable description of the economic consequences of the "Reagan revolution" of the 1980s, Phillips relies on diverse empirical data to support the notion that there is a cyclical pattern in American politics. Like the 1880s and the 1920s, the 1980s, says Phillips, represented the ascendancy of the Republican party, which allowed the wealthy to make even further dramatic gains over the middle and lower classes. This "circulation of elites" notion points to a populist backlash and possible return of the Democratic party to the presidency in the 1990s, he says. His critique fits nicely with the work of Arthur M. Schlesinger and the pioneering turn-of-the-century European social scientists Roberto Michels and Vilfredo Pareto.
- William D. Pederson, Louisiana State Univ., Shreveport
don't compete; coexist
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
"I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line 'I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska' was very funny. I think the word is 'sarcasm.' In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes," - Andrea Fay Friedman, the actress with Down Syndrome who voiced the fictional character on Family Guy
"I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line 'I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska' was very funny. I think the word is 'sarcasm.' In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes," - Andrea Fay Friedman, the actress with Down Syndrome who voiced the fictional character on Family Guy
"I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line 'I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska' was very funny. I think the word is 'sarcasm.' In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes," - Andrea Fay Friedman, the actress with Down Syndrome who voiced the fictional character on Family Guy
"I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line 'I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska' was very funny. I think the word is 'sarcasm.' In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes," - Andrea Fay Friedman, the actress with Down Syndrome who voiced the fictional character on Family Guy
beautiful...
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has she done anything for the Down syndrome community regarding legislation or even awareness, charity, funding (before she left office)? Nothing.
Palin cut funding for special needs citizens in Alaska in the last few years, before Trig was born. So you can see how important special needs funding was to her. Now? What has she done since her last child was born, and has she done anything for the Down syndrome community regarding legislation or even awareness, charity, funding (before she left office)? Nothing. That tells a lot how she feels about her son's cause. She had a seat of power and could have really made a difference in the Down syndrome community. Instead she chose to use her son for sympathy votes.
-Jeanwah (from another thread)
based on that, and the fact she has taken offense to everyone except Rush Limbaugh, then anyone that defends this disgraceful excuse of a mother in this instance, really needs to have a good hard look at themselves. it's all about the publicity for Sarah. at any cost. even her sons.
has she done anything for the Down syndrome community regarding legislation or even awareness, charity, funding (before she left office)? Nothing.
Palin cut funding for special needs citizens in Alaska in the last few years, before Trig was born. So you can see how important special needs funding was to her. Now? What has she done since her last child was born, and has she done anything for the Down syndrome community regarding legislation or even awareness, charity, funding (before she left office)? Nothing. That tells a lot how she feels about her son's cause. She had a seat of power and could have really made a difference in the Down syndrome community. Instead she chose to use her son for sympathy votes.
-Jeanwah (from another thread)
based on that, and the fact she has taken offense to everyone except Rush Limbaugh, then anyone that defends this disgraceful excuse of a mother in this instance, really needs to have a good hard look at themselves. it's all about the publicity for Sarah. at any cost. even her sons.
Palin's closest aide and biggest supporter Meg Stapleton quit, the last of her inner circle from Alaska I believe. Has got to say something about this moron.
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America's most famous unwed mother will play herself in an upcoming ABC series called The Secret Life Of The American Teenager.
Bristol Palin, daughter of former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, will play herself as a friend to the show's protagonist, Amy, at a music program for teen mothers. "Secret Life" focuses heavily on how Amy's family and friends deal with her own unexpected pregnancy. "We're thrilled to have [Bristol] join us, and I think she will bring additional attention to the issues facing teen parents that we've been exploring for a couple seasons now," "Secret Life" executive producer Brenda Hampton said in a statement.
Bristol recently appeared on Oprah to announce that she has re-pledged to abstain from sex until she is married. Because that worked out so great the first time.
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Palin's closest aide and biggest supporter Meg Stapleton quit, the last of her inner circle from Alaska I believe. Has got to say something about this moron.
she is a maverick remember?? she is going to get an entirely new staff...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
when i think of this thread i think of people getting so uptight about anyone being critical of Palin and it makes me envision a youtube type video like that guy made for Brittany Spears 'why don't you just leave her alone!?!?!?!?! waaaaaaaaaaah'
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i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
when i think of this thread i think of people getting so uptight about anyone being critical of Palin and it makes me envision a youtube type video like that guy made for Brittany Spears 'why don't you just leave her alone!?!?!?!?! waaaaaaaaaaah'
Actualy.........I kinda laugh at the type of people that would ummm..........I don't know....write 12 pages of shit about her. Now....who are the ones that are uptight again?
For the record, I do not suport Palin.
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when i think of this thread i think of people getting so uptight about anyone being critical of Palin and it makes me envision a youtube type video like that guy made for Brittany Spears 'why don't you just leave her alone!?!?!?!?! waaaaaaaaaaah'
Actualy.........I kinda laugh at the type of people that would ummm..........I don't know....write 12 pages of shit about her. Now....who are the ones that are uptight again?
For the record, I do not suport Palin.
SURE you don't support Sarah Palin, sure you don't. She has earned the point of being critical of the things she has done in the past and how much of a hypocrite she has become.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
That was classic about the hand , how did I miss that show.
Peace
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
when i think of this thread i think of people getting so uptight about anyone being critical of Palin and it makes me envision a youtube type video like that guy made for Brittany Spears 'why don't you just leave her alone!?!?!?!?! waaaaaaaaaaah'
Actualy.........I kinda laugh at the type of people that would ummm..........I don't know....write 12 pages of shit about her. Now....who are the ones that are uptight again?
For the record, I do not suport Palin.
SURE you don't support Sarah Palin, sure you don't. She has earned the point of being critical of the things she has done in the past and how much of a hypocrite she has become.
IDAHO FALLS, ID—Speaking unto an audience of anti-immigration advocates, global-warming deniers, and members of the Tea Party Nation, former Alaska governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin gave forth utterances Monday that reportedly opened the sixth seal of the Book of the Apocalypse.
"Wow, it's good to be here, just shootin' the breeze with a bunch of real, hardworking Americans who love their freedom," said Palin, her words echoing across the Idaho Falls Civic Auditorium as mighty tremors caused great unrest beneath the land and the sea. "So are the little guys like you and me gonna fight these Washington insiders with their big government agenda? You betcha we are!"
And lo, there was then a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair; and the moon became as blood; and "gosh" was spoken repeatedly; and the stars of heaven fell upon the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken by a mighty wind.
And the 10th mention of "small town folk" brought forth a great belching chasm of death and dust.
These disturbances reportedly went unnoticed by the audience, however, as their thunderous applause drowned out the sound of the foretold cataclysm.
"This Tea Party movement just goes to show ya that America is ready for another revolution," Palin said as things long ago divined came finally to pass. "Who do you think is gonna stand up for the freedoms promised by our Founding Fathers? Folks like us, or some socialist professor of constitutional law in the Oval Office?"
It was then, witnesses claim, that there was a tearing of the heavens, and the skies receded as does a scroll when it is rolled up, and anecdotes about everyday middle-class Alaskan families were enunciated in down-to-earth tones.
"That's right, partner," Palin said, as every mountain and island moved from its place, and flames overtook the lakes and the rivers and the seas. "Thanks, but no thanks."
According to biblical scholars, the opening of the seven seals described in the Book of Revelation will usher in the End Times, the Tribulation, the reign of the Antichrist, and the eventual salvation of the 144,000 chosen few. It is thought that the sixth seal's opening will bring about the full fury of God, leading ultimately to the Day of Wrath.
"Admittedly, this is not what we were expecting," said Robert Harwood, a doctor of divinity at the University of Cambridge. "The Bible speaks of a beast with seven horns and seven eyes, not a raven-haired woman from the north who knows not what foolishness she speaks of."
"Still, there's no denying it," Harwood added. "The End of Days is upon us."
One member of the crowd not torn apart by swarming harpies told reporters he feared living in a country where his daughters would grow up speaking Spanish and not be allowed to carry handguns.
"Palin for president!" Bill Coleman, 37, of Topeka, KS chanted, and the stench of flesh rotting in the belly of Satan rose up, and the stench of death rose up. "Sarah Palin for president!"
"Small town folks—the folks who grow our food, run our small businesses, and teach our kids—are getting pretty riled up by President Obama's big socialist ideas," Palin spoke as the stage upon which she stood was rent apart by an unseen hand, opening as unto a great chasm, whose gaping void she narrowly escaped by clinging to the podium.
"Uh…how's that hopey-changey stuff workin' out for ya?" Palin added.
Chaos and disorder then spread across hill and valley to every corner of the earth, eyewitnesses reported, and as the minions of the Antichrist prepared for their millennium of world dominion, even the teeming masses of heathens could not in their hearts deny that the final phase of Armageddon was close at hand, and that you're darn right Joe Six-Pack pays too many taxes already.
The Antichrist, whose true identity remained unknown as of press time, will reportedly come to torment the sinners of humanity as soon as the seventh and last remaining seal is opened.
"I'm so happy that we've got the liberal left running scared," Palin concluded. "Because whatever the TV pundits might want you to think, from where I'm standing, the future looks really good
Is there any way I can delete this thread because it's getting really tiring seeing it always come up under "view your posts".
Wish I had never commented on it so it would just go away. blah blah blah
Pretty crazy shit when I scroll down Moving Train Topics there is only one other thread with more comments than this one. Get a life and get over it. Sarah Palin will never be the President of the United States.
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edit: not sure what happened to my post ...
anyhoo - i don't think i wrote anything that was untrue ...
How can you have concrete evidence of a prediction? Seems kinda hard to have concrete evidence of something that hasn't happened yet...hence the meaning of prediction.
I think it would be helpful to look at the cold hard facts about Reagan and compare them to Obama. Here's a few, you can ignore them if you want but they are fact:
1. As a % of GDP, Reagan's highest deficit was 5.88% in 1983, coming out of a recession that was arguably worse than the one that Obama inherited. Obama's deficits: 2009- 9.92%, 2010 10.64%.
2. Reagan tax cuts resulted in a net INCREASE in federal tax revenue. A huge increase. Using today's dollars, federal tax receipts in 1980 were $517 billion. In 1989 they were $991 billion. This should prove to everyone that tax cuts spur economic growth, resulting in a. (Those same numbers for the GWB admin? From about $2 billion in 2000 to over $2.5 billion in 2008. GWB never ran a deficit of more than 3.6% of GDP) Clearly, the Reagan tax cuts did not lead to an increase in the federal debt. And as far as Reagan cutting spending, he did not. Federal spending increased EVERY year of the Reagan administration. Maybe if he would have gotten spending under control we would have put him on our money or Mt. Rushmore by now.
Gotta run.
wait i'm confused :?
when rahm emmanuel or family guy says it, it's offensive
ruch limbaugh says it and it's satire?
seriously, does she have anyone with any common sense advising her? politics aside, if she really wants to be taken seriously she needs to stop speaking without thinking
actually the tax cuts did increase the federal debt....in just took several years for it to happen
taxes should have been increased to keep up with spending....especially during the GWB years....didn't happen
Obama either had to institute a massive tax increase during the recession, cut spending on defense and education or submit a deficit budget.
Which would you prefer?
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
taxes should have been increased to keep up with spending....especially during the GWB years....didn't happen
Obama either had to institute a massive tax increase during the recession, cut spending on defense and education or submit a deficit budget.
Which would you prefer?[/quote]
My last post provided numbers regarding tax receipts. I don't know how much clearer it could be that the tax cuts were not to blame, spending was to blame.
I disagree about increasing taxes to keep up with spending. How about keeping spending under control, not spending more than you take in? I guess that's a radical idea. I can't just snap my fingers and earn more money because I decide to spend more, the same principle should apply to the government.
To use a term the president likes to use, the last statement was a "false choice". Obama had options, the stimulus is going to cost us over $850 billion, and that's before the interest (since all the money was borrowed...), and he wanted to spend another trillion on health care that even his own party found too irresponsible to enact despite supermajorities.
Sure, there was no realistic way to submit a balanced budget in Obama's first year, but look at his long-term budget projections. According to his own numbers, he does not plan to run a deficit of less than 1/2 Trillion in any year for the next decade. By the end of his administration the national debt could equal our GDP. That spells disaster.
Obama presented what appears to be a realistic budget
why can't you use the quote function correctly?
anyway....spending was obviously at large levels for Reagan as tax rates were very high....he stimulated the economy by cutting taxes drastically and yes that worked for a few years....
as I said...even GB1st was smart enough to realize that taxes needed to be increased....but look what happened...they crucified him
GB2nd obviously expanded the government spending tremendously and did not raise taxes
Now Obama is stating that we need to raise taxes and you turds are crapping your pants....we HAVE to raise taxes
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
"You turds?" OK, thought we were having a reasonable discussion here. Nevermind, once the name calling starts I'm out.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
And yet you still failed to answer a simple yes/no question...hmmmm
Commentary: Run, Sarah, run
Leonard Pitts Jr. - The Miami Herald
http://www.bnd.com/editorial/story/1133216.html
Dear Sarah:
I hear you're pondering a run for the White House in 2012. Last week, you told Fox news it would be "absurd" to rule it out.
I'm writing to ask that you rule it in. I very badly want you to run for — and win — the Republican nomination for the presidency.
I know you're waiting for the punch line. Maybe you figure I think you'd be a weak candidate who would pave the way for President Obama's easy re-election.
That's not it. No, I want you to run because I believe a Palin candidacy would force upon this country a desperately needed moment of truth. It would require us to finally decide what kind of America we want to be.
Mrs. Palin, you are an avatar of the shameless hypocrisy and cognitive disconnection that have driven our politics for the last decade, a process of stupidification creeping like kudzu over our national life.
As Exhibit A, consider your recent speech at a so-called "tea party" event, wherein you dismissed the president as a "charismatic guy with a teleprompter." Bad enough you imply that teleprompter use is the mark of an insubstantial man, even though you and every other major politician uses them. But what made the comment truly jaw-dropping is that even as you spoke, you had penned on your left palm, clearly visible, a series of crib notes.
Mrs. Palin, if Obama is an idiot for reading a prepared speech off a teleprompter, what are you for reading notes you've inked on your hand like a school kid who failed to study for the big test?
In the Fox interview, you scored Obama for supposedly expecting Americans to "sit down and shut up" and accept his policies. But when asked when the president has ever said that, you couldn't answer. Obama, you sputtered, has just been condescending with his "general persona."
I found that a telling moment. See, ultimately what you represent is not conservatism. Heck, I suspect that somewhere, Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan are spinning like helicopter rotors at the very idea.
No, you represent the latest iteration of an anti-intellectualism that periodically rises in the American character. There is, historically and persistently, a belief in us that y'all just can't trust nobody who acts too smart or talks too good — in other words, somebody whose "general persona" indicates they may have once cracked a book or had a thought. Americans tend to believe common sense the exclusive province of humble folks without sheepskins on the wall or big words in their vocabularies.
I don't mock those people. They are my parents, my family elders, members of my childhood church. I honor their native good sense, what mom called "mother wit." But if it is insulting to condescend to them, it is equally insulting to mythologize them.
More to the point, something is wrong when we celebrate mental mediocrity like yours under the misapprehension that competence or, God forbid, intelligence, makes a person one of those "elites" — that's a curse word now --— lacking authenticity, compassion and common sense.
So no, this is not a clash of ideologies, but a clash between intelligence and its opposite. And I am tired of being asked to pretend stupid is a virtue. That's why I'd welcome the moment of truth your campaign would bring. It would force us to decide once and for all whether we are permanently committed to the path of ignorance, of birthers, truthers and tea party incoherence you represent, or whether we will at last turn back from the cliff toward which we race.
If the latter, wonderful, God bless America. If the former, well, some of us can finally quit hoping the nation will return to its senses and plan accordingly. Either way, we need to know, and your candidacy would tell us. If you love this country, Mrs. Palin, you can do it no greater service.
Run, Sarah, run.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I agree completely but I can't imagine her ever getting past a primary....her own party would eat her alive
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
this is a good book to read on reagan:
http://www.amazon.com/Politics-Rich-Poo ... 674&sr=8-1
The Politics Of Rich And Poor: Wealth And The American Electorate In The Reagan Aftermath by Kevin Phillips
From Publishers Weekly
Economic analysis and historical comparisons blend to show that Reagan's presidency left a huge concentration of wealth at the top that harms the poor, adds to the mounting debt and allows foreigners to grab large chunks of America. "A stunning refutation of George Gilder's Wealth and Poverty , Phillips's dispassionate report offers no solutions yet zeros in on key problems," said PW.
Copyright 1991 Reed Business Information, Inc.
From Library Journal
In this extremely readable description of the economic consequences of the "Reagan revolution" of the 1980s, Phillips relies on diverse empirical data to support the notion that there is a cyclical pattern in American politics. Like the 1880s and the 1920s, the 1980s, says Phillips, represented the ascendancy of the Republican party, which allowed the wealthy to make even further dramatic gains over the middle and lower classes. This "circulation of elites" notion points to a populist backlash and possible return of the Democratic party to the presidency in the 1990s, he says. His critique fits nicely with the work of Arthur M. Schlesinger and the pioneering turn-of-the-century European social scientists Roberto Michels and Vilfredo Pareto.
- William D. Pederson, Louisiana State Univ., Shreveport
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
i can't honestly answer that question ... i don't know enough of US history to be able to put him on any list ...
I thought it was as well.
beautiful...
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
Palin cut funding for special needs citizens in Alaska in the last few years, before Trig was born. So you can see how important special needs funding was to her. Now? What has she done since her last child was born, and has she done anything for the Down syndrome community regarding legislation or even awareness, charity, funding (before she left office)? Nothing. That tells a lot how she feels about her son's cause. She had a seat of power and could have really made a difference in the Down syndrome community. Instead she chose to use her son for sympathy votes.
-Jeanwah (from another thread)
based on that, and the fact she has taken offense to everyone except Rush Limbaugh, then anyone that defends this disgraceful excuse of a mother in this instance, really needs to have a good hard look at themselves. it's all about the publicity for Sarah. at any cost. even her sons.
100% agree.
Bristol Palin Lands TV Series Role
Who will watch this madness?
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Actualy.........I kinda laugh at the type of people that would ummm..........I don't know....write 12 pages of shit about her. Now....who are the ones that are uptight again?
For the record, I do not suport Palin.
SURE you don't support Sarah Palin, sure you don't. She has earned the point of being critical of the things she has done in the past and how much of a hypocrite she has become.
peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
That was classic about the hand
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
ok
Latest Sarah Palin Speech Opens Sixth Seal
IDAHO FALLS, ID—Speaking unto an audience of anti-immigration advocates, global-warming deniers, and members of the Tea Party Nation, former Alaska governor and vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin gave forth utterances Monday that reportedly opened the sixth seal of the Book of the Apocalypse.
"Wow, it's good to be here, just shootin' the breeze with a bunch of real, hardworking Americans who love their freedom," said Palin, her words echoing across the Idaho Falls Civic Auditorium as mighty tremors caused great unrest beneath the land and the sea. "So are the little guys like you and me gonna fight these Washington insiders with their big government agenda? You betcha we are!"
And lo, there was then a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair; and the moon became as blood; and "gosh" was spoken repeatedly; and the stars of heaven fell upon the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken by a mighty wind.
And the 10th mention of "small town folk" brought forth a great belching chasm of death and dust.
These disturbances reportedly went unnoticed by the audience, however, as their thunderous applause drowned out the sound of the foretold cataclysm.
"This Tea Party movement just goes to show ya that America is ready for another revolution," Palin said as things long ago divined came finally to pass. "Who do you think is gonna stand up for the freedoms promised by our Founding Fathers? Folks like us, or some socialist professor of constitutional law in the Oval Office?"
It was then, witnesses claim, that there was a tearing of the heavens, and the skies receded as does a scroll when it is rolled up, and anecdotes about everyday middle-class Alaskan families were enunciated in down-to-earth tones.
"That's right, partner," Palin said, as every mountain and island moved from its place, and flames overtook the lakes and the rivers and the seas. "Thanks, but no thanks."
According to biblical scholars, the opening of the seven seals described in the Book of Revelation will usher in the End Times, the Tribulation, the reign of the Antichrist, and the eventual salvation of the 144,000 chosen few. It is thought that the sixth seal's opening will bring about the full fury of God, leading ultimately to the Day of Wrath.
"Admittedly, this is not what we were expecting," said Robert Harwood, a doctor of divinity at the University of Cambridge. "The Bible speaks of a beast with seven horns and seven eyes, not a raven-haired woman from the north who knows not what foolishness she speaks of."
"Still, there's no denying it," Harwood added. "The End of Days is upon us."
One member of the crowd not torn apart by swarming harpies told reporters he feared living in a country where his daughters would grow up speaking Spanish and not be allowed to carry handguns.
"Palin for president!" Bill Coleman, 37, of Topeka, KS chanted, and the stench of flesh rotting in the belly of Satan rose up, and the stench of death rose up. "Sarah Palin for president!"
"Small town folks—the folks who grow our food, run our small businesses, and teach our kids—are getting pretty riled up by President Obama's big socialist ideas," Palin spoke as the stage upon which she stood was rent apart by an unseen hand, opening as unto a great chasm, whose gaping void she narrowly escaped by clinging to the podium.
"Uh…how's that hopey-changey stuff workin' out for ya?" Palin added.
Chaos and disorder then spread across hill and valley to every corner of the earth, eyewitnesses reported, and as the minions of the Antichrist prepared for their millennium of world dominion, even the teeming masses of heathens could not in their hearts deny that the final phase of Armageddon was close at hand, and that you're darn right Joe Six-Pack pays too many taxes already.
The Antichrist, whose true identity remained unknown as of press time, will reportedly come to torment the sinners of humanity as soon as the seventh and last remaining seal is opened.
"I'm so happy that we've got the liberal left running scared," Palin concluded. "Because whatever the TV pundits might want you to think, from where I'm standing, the future looks really good
i love the onion.
Wish I had never commented on it so it would just go away. blah blah blah
Pretty crazy shit when I scroll down Moving Train Topics there is only one other thread with more comments than this one. Get a life and get over it. Sarah Palin will never be the President of the United States.