This is what you need to do 10 club!

KingJeremyD

LeatherMandi wrote:

ruggs1996 wrote:

But, these days it is nearly impossible to plan anything when it comes to going to pj concerts...We don't receive any info on tour dates/tickets until the last minute {usually}..Also, it is so flustrating to not get all the tour dates at once...Or at least 1 leg announced at a time..


Jeremy

Yeah , with that fact in mind.. as well as how expensive tickets have started to get.. I do believe my carefree days of following my fave band are over with... makes me sad :( Was fun while it lasted though.

PJ/10C have it made it nearly impossible for a fan to actually make it to pearl jam concerts..Unless you have the money and time to travel across the U.S.A....

I just find it hard to believe that pearl jam can't tour the majority of the U.S.A. like in the good old days....Take a look at all the bigger name bands these days...Majority of them just don't tour a few different states..



Jeremy

KingJeremyD

But, I have come to terms that posting on here what is wrong with the ten club....Is as good as about talking to the wall...


10C may do all they can..But, once again 10c represents the band Pearl Jam...Maybe the band doesn't know exactly what is going inside the 10c?...Maybe they do and just don't care?...We will probably never know..


Jeremy

Fahka

Crazy4Cords wrote:

LeatherMandi wrote:

Crazy4Cords wrote:

.Will I quit renewing my 10c membership....No because I have been a member for a long time..


Jeremy

and that's why things will never improve.. because why bother going out of your way to improve things when people will pay the 20 bucks either way?

Hi LeatherMandi,


That is besides the point..When you pay money to join a fanclub..You expect that fanclub to do all they can to take of it's fan club members....I am willing to pay whatever fee...If they would run the fan club properly...The 10c is no longer a fan club for pearl jam..It is a merchandise store for pearl jam....

I know what some fans will state..Oh I am in this bands fan club and it sucks compared to 10c...That could be true..Since, I have really never ever been in any other fan club membership...
Jeremy

What i meant was there's no initiative on 10clubs part because people like you and i will still pay the money. Fact of the matter is.. alot of other fan clubs are set up like ten c. Don't get me wrong.. Ive had great experiences and i do think they care about us as individuals to a certain extent (They've gone above and beyond for me before) But really the only thing that separates ten c from other band's fan clubs is a Christmas single. They do genuinely listen to their fans, which i really appreciate (ie, the haiti relief ed single idea, setlist wishes ect ect ect) I was thinking recently.. about other bands i dig.. and alot of them should probably be stuck up for how good they are but they have meet and greets and other things of that nature and keep ticket prices low for fans by playing slightly smaller venues. It always baffled me that pearl jam never did that, especially with how down to earth pj has always struck me (as far as meet and greets go). I think we were spoiled in the beginning and we expect out of the club and pearl jam as a whole. Not gonna lie.. i hold pearl jam to a pretty high standard, only because they have been melting my face for a really long time and i love them for it I'm pretty lit so i'm just gonna say VIVA LE PEARL JAM Long Live the Ten C and its members

Fahka

Crazy4Cords wrote:

LeatherMandi wrote:

ruggs1996 wrote:

But, these days it is nearly impossible to plan anything when it comes to going to pj concerts...We don't receive any info on tour dates/tickets until the last minute {usually}..Also, it is so flustrating to not get all the tour dates at once...Or at least 1 leg announced at a time..


Jeremy

Yeah , with that fact in mind.. as well as how expensive tickets have started to get.. I do believe my carefree days of following my fave band are over with... makes me sad :( Was fun while it lasted though.

PJ/10C have it made it nearly impossible for a fan to actually make it to pearl jam concerts..Unless you have the money and time to travel across the U.S.A....

I just find it hard to believe that pearl jam can't tour the majority of the U.S.A. like in the good old days....Take a look at all the bigger name bands these days...Majority of them just don't tour a few different states..



Jeremy

Your right.. its not even half as easy as it used to be to catch five or six shows in a row just because you can on the cheap.They go where they can make the most amount of money while spending the least (touring alot obviously equals alot of dough, even just in moving equipment) It was a breeze even a few years ago to see the band (seems like we were given very fair warning of up coming shows with enough time to plan and tickets weren't stupid expensive), and now i start thinking of it in my head like wow.. going to a show seems like more of an ordeal these days. Like its an investment for just the basics (transportation and tickets alone) god forbid you want to eat, drink or buy a shirt and be merry If i have to be stressed out about how i'm gonna pay for it all kind of it takes the fun out of it! (ok so all the stress equally goes away once i'm in the parking lot but still :P ) I've met a few fans who have gone into to debt over pearl jam and that's one thing i won't do. Not for anyone :P So , so be it.. if i have to see pearl jam less and see other bands that i really enjoy for 1/6th of the price well then that's fine too. I'll take what i can get, as a younger fan I'm lucky to have been seeing them as long as i have.

KingJeremyD

Not too many years back....Pearl Jam was all about the music...I guess that has all changed now...From what it looks like now...It is all about making the money...Not the music or even fans..


When pearl jam decided not to go with a label on Backspacer...They knew what that was going to cause..No major record label to back them...Now the fans are paying the price for their no record label...That is my own opinion...Maybe I am way off on this..I understand pearl jam has to make so much profit to keep going on..But, just seems odd they can't tour other states than the east and west..

Jeremy

Hugh Freaking Dillon

how in the HELL does it go from "where are the tour dates/philly boots/xmas single?" to "Pearl Jam is all about the money now".

Seriously people, GET A GRIP.

KingJeremyD

Johnny Sitar wrote:

how in the HELL does it go from "where are the tour dates/philly boots/xmas single?" o "Pearl Jam is all about the money now".

Seriously people, GET A GRIP.

Hi,


It is my own opinion buddy...I have been following this band from back in the day...The money seems to be the most important thing to the band right now...Hey we can't tour here because we can't make enough money...I call bs on that..


Jeremy

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Crazy4Cords wrote:

Hi,


It is my own opinion buddy...I have been following this band from back in the day...The money seems to be the most important thing to the band right now...Hey we can't tour here because we can't make enough money...I call bs on that..


Jeremy

yes, I know it is your opinion. And I stated mine. No difference. I have been also following this band since the beginning, like most people on this board......and....?

How can you possibly claim to have a clue what is the band's current priority? This is what I call BS on.

Kloddz

HollisBrown wrote:

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FenwayFaithful wrote:

Speaking of which, does anyone know when the Philly boots will be released? I haven't been on here in a while and I noticed they aren't available in the Goods section.

I think they're still converting the digital files to analog for the super ultra vinyl box set. 30 discs, 150 page booklet, 100 stickers and concert used wine bottle series. Price-$1500

Bought!

KingJeremyD

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Crazy4Cords wrote:

Hi,


It is my own opinion buddy...I have been following this band from back in the day...The money seems to be the most important thing to the band right now...Hey we can't tour here because we can't make enough money...I call bs on that..


Jeremy

yes, I know it is your opinion. And I stated mine. No difference. I have been also following this band since the beginning, like most people on this board......and....?

How can you possibly claim to have a clue what is the band's current priority? This is what I call BS on.

How can you explain the reason pearl jam only tours the major cites in east and west?...Example, NYC, Boston, San Fran etc...Members of pearl jam have stated they don't want to be on the road for more than 3 weeks at a time...It all comes down to making money...Which is understandable...


Jeremy

CranMalReign

Crazy4Cords wrote:

OMGZ! The band wrote me a letter and it said this:

Pearl jam wrote:

Life ain't nuthin but bitches and money.

Jeremy

danny

i agree!

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Crazy4Cords wrote:

Johnny Sitar wrote:

Crazy4Cords wrote:

Hi,


It is my own opinion buddy...I have been following this band from back in the day...The money seems to be the most important thing to the band right now...Hey we can't tour here because we can't make enough money...I call bs on that..


Jeremy

yes, I know it is your opinion. And I stated mine. No difference. I have been also following this band since the beginning, like most people on this board......and....?

How can you possibly claim to have a clue what is the band's current priority? This is what I call BS on.

How can you explain the reason pearl jam only tours the major cites in east and west?...Example, NYC, Boston, San Fran etc...Members of pearl jam have stated they don't want to be on the road for more than 3 weeks at a time...It all comes down to making money...Which is understandable...


Jeremy

no, actually, it comes down to them having families.

Gary Carter

Its all about making the money dude, plan and simple. If it was about the families then why has it been 7 years since they played the midwest proper and 5 years since they did a canada tour and a south america tour. Your saying the band can't go to south america cause of there families but can go to europe 3 times now in 4 years. Mike said in the spin article last year the band wants to make more money and just recently stone said the same thing. I can bet 100 bucks that the 6 week us tour will be 3 weeks in the mortheast and a show or 2 in chicago and then some west coast dates.

hopethatuchoke

It's all about the benjamin's folks...no ifs, ands or butts about it. The proof is in the articles metsfan just referenced. And the $80 Ed solo tickets. And the $80 Philly tickets. And the $35 shirts. And $90 hoodies. And $12 keychains. And the need to charge us $2 for a somewhat useless iphone app. And the fact that they only tour overly profitable areas (I can't say I completely blame them for this. I wouldn't be looking to lose money on my tours) ALL of the above products and tickets could be considerably cheaper. What does that have to do with their families? And it's not like they carry around an extensive stage setup with them. It's as barebones as it gets.

Kat

I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.

Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.

Have a beautiful day all.

Kat

zootown

Kat wrote:

I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.

Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.

Have a beautiful day all.

Kat

pdalowsky

Kat wrote:

I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.

Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.

Have a beautiful day all.

Kat

Really there should be no need for this to be made clear here, as lets be honest isnt this obvious?

after 3 days of constant pissing and whining about tour dates that might not even exist, all kinds of insults and put downs levelled at the fanclub, its come to that Kat has to explain that things leak before they are definite? she has really had to explain this....

Of course she has had to respond eventually because really its got to an unacceptable and pathetic level these last few days and that in itself is a real shame.

Ok many people wanted to know why some dates are released and then others later, but there is no answer to that other than probably to try and give some news before the rest is finalised as they totally realise how much of a rabid pack of dogs their fans are desperate for any morsal of information.......

sure they could wait till a fukll tour is final, but then the bithcing and whining would be even worse whilst we waited......

theres no winners here

arq

Kat wrote:

I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.

Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.

Have a beautiful day all.

Kat

LOVE IT

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Kat wrote:

I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.

Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.

Have a beautiful day all.

Kat

I think this post alone should be made a sticky. Thank you, Kat. Hopefully this will clean up the board for a bit!