It is my own opinion buddy...I have been following this band from back in the day...The money seems to be the most important thing to the band right now...Hey we can't tour here because we can't make enough money...I call bs on that..
Jeremy
yes, I know it is your opinion. And I stated mine. No difference. I have been also following this band since the beginning, like most people on this board......and....?
How can you possibly claim to have a clue what is the band's current priority? This is what I call BS on.
How can you explain the reason pearl jam only tours the major cites in east and west?...Example, NYC, Boston, San Fran etc...Members of pearl jam have stated they don't want to be on the road for more than 3 weeks at a time...It all comes down to making money...Which is understandable...
Jeremy
no, actually, it comes down to them having families.
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Its all about making the money dude, plan and simple. If it was about the families then why has it been 7 years since they played the midwest proper and 5 years since they did a canada tour and a south america tour. Your saying the band can't go to south america cause of there families but can go to europe 3 times now in 4 years. Mike said in the spin article last year the band wants to make more money and just recently stone said the same thing. I can bet 100 bucks that the 6 week us tour will be 3 weeks in the mortheast and a show or 2 in chicago and then some west coast dates.
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
It's all about the benjamin's folks...no ifs, ands or butts about it. The proof is in the articles metsfan just referenced. And the $80 Ed solo tickets. And the $80 Philly tickets. And the $35 shirts. And $90 hoodies. And $12 keychains. And the need to charge us $2 for a somewhat useless iphone app. And the fact that they only tour overly profitable areas (I can't say I completely blame them for this. I wouldn't be looking to lose money on my tours) ALL of the above products and tickets could be considerably cheaper. What does that have to do with their families? And it's not like they carry around an extensive stage setup with them. It's as barebones as it gets.
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
Really there should be no need for this to be made clear here, as lets be honest isnt this obvious?
after 3 days of constant pissing and whining about tour dates that might not even exist, all kinds of insults and put downs levelled at the fanclub, its come to that Kat has to explain that things leak before they are definite? she has really had to explain this....
Of course she has had to respond eventually because really its got to an unacceptable and pathetic level these last few days and that in itself is a real shame.
Ok many people wanted to know why some dates are released and then others later, but there is no answer to that other than probably to try and give some news before the rest is finalised as they totally realise how much of a rabid pack of dogs their fans are desperate for any morsal of information.......
sure they could wait till a fukll tour is final, but then the bithcing and whining would be even worse whilst we waited......
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
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I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
I think this post alone should be made a sticky. Thank you, Kat. Hopefully this will clean up the board for a bit!
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I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
Really there should be no need for this to be made clear here, as lets be honest isnt this obvious?
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
Sorry Kat, but this is where you are wrong.....
The Vault
The Re-issues
The Big, Bold and Free
The Bootlegs
The Digital Lounge
ALL statements that WERE MADE BY 10 CLUB, no one else, and have left us high and dry since the original post. Seems like hundreds of posts made by us, the fans, wondering what is up with these and no response.
I understand that no tour plans have been mentioned by ANYONE at 10Club, so I understand what you are saying. Also, I realize that Re-issues are somewhat out of your hands, but you have to know something. All the above were started by the 10Club, so why no answers?
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
Sorry Kat, but this is where you are wrong.....
The Vault
The Re-issues
The Big, Bold and Free
The Bootlegs
The Digital Lounge
ALL statements that WERE MADE BY 10 CLUB, no one else, and have left us high and dry since the original post. Seems like hundreds of posts made by us, the fans, wondering what is up with these and no response.
I understand that no tour plans have been mentioned by ANYONE at 10Club, so I understand what you are saying. Also, I realize that Re-issues are somewhat out of your hands, but you have to know something. All the above were started by the 10Club, so why no answers?
Right for the 100th time, the tenclub rely upon the information they are given. simple.
Agendas change, ideas get placed on the backburner.......Apple still havent released their nano iphone......how many years has that been coming?
The band have made available almost every bootleg bar 2007 since 2000......whats wrong with that?
you think tenclub decide what happens to the vault? when that opens?
you think Sonyy keep them constantly in the loop re the reissues....
you think the tour dates are ready to be released?
If they had any of this information - you would have it by now.
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
im sure you trying your best and i really respect your work there,,for sure is difficult to keep the quality with quantity in the highest level..especially when the relatonship is between band and fans and not just custome-company..i respect that..
just 2 things,,
1.are u coming in Europe tour this summer???couse then if u do i have to save some ouzo for u..
2.if Athens show happen,this year or whenever,i want u to announce it and not another person that work in 10c
thanks
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no, actually, it comes down to them having families.
So why be half assed about it? That also doesn't explain the following two things : A. Why do we always find out news from other sources? and B. Why are we not given enough time between show announcements and ticket going on sale when it was no problem just a few short years ago. Just doesn't make any sense. You would think they would make it easy as hell to go to shows considering they know that us fuckers will go to five or six shows if just given ample time (meaning way more money for pearl jam).. its almost as if they DON'T want to make as much money because honestly? The more time that goes on the less easy it is to follow pearl jam around (even in your specific area that they come to) and the more i realize that its not worth the effort... Not because i don't like the band but because its just too difficult to keep up with. I just don't ever remember things ever being this complicated.. I just don't understand why a band that's known for its live shows would make it hard for the "hardcore" fans to go and see them. Do they just assume all of us are over 30 and have amazing jobs? Even a great job considering.. still not easy to see the band (not to mention that if you DO have a great job, hard to take off for pearl jam shows) What about us in our very early 20s (and younger)who are trying to go to school ect ect. It's just a good way to alienate fans that never stopped caring, even when the rest of the world did. Thankfully i've been lucky to have seen some really great shows so my world isn't going to collapse if i can't afford to see pearl jam anymore but it's something i'll greatly miss. I don't expect ten club or pearl jam to be perfect or answer every fan's question..., it would just be nice to have certain things explained once in awhile especially when multiple fans are confused about the same things. Tis all I guess at worst ill have to pretend i'm 15 again and my mom won't let me go to shows so all i have is my records. So with that in mind... bring on some new tunes please
Stole this from another thread.... I think it sums it up....
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Stole this from another thread.... I think it sums it up....
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Just curious. When you go to a restaurant and get lousy service, do you "keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the restaurant (or insert any other business here) operates under" or do you get pissed off?
I am not saying the Ten Club's serivce is lousy. Just saying that line of thinking is kinda silly.
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
Still has nothing to do with pearl jam doesn't feel like they need tour anywhere besides the East coast and West Coast...I wouldn't care how the 10c announced the tour dates..As long as you knew that it was going to be a guessing game...If we all knew that the band was going to do a real U.S tour..Not just East coast and West Coast...I use to travel a lot to attend pearl jam concerts...Now I am at the point where if they come to my neck of the woods..
Stole this from another thread.... I think it sums it up....
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Sounds like how most people feel about politics, .... which is never a good attitude.. ask questions! Since we don't know how it works lets just ASSUME things couldn't be any better :roll:
Stole this from another thread.... I think it sums it up....
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Sounds like how most people feel about politics, .... which is never a good attitude.. ask questions! Since we don't know how it works lets just ASSUME things couldn't be any better :roll:
Hi Evil Closet Monkey,
I agree with your statement you posted...But, still you don't think the 10c could do a little better job overall on every aspect of running a 10c...I know the 10c can't announce any tour dates until they get the ok from pearl jam management etc..10C is becoming more of a merchandise store..Not a fan club...I have been a long time 10c fan club member...I am not going to quit renewing my fan club membership...Because, I like the fact to have the chance to get 10c tixs...But, it is becoming more of a burden to get these tixs...If it wasn't for the 10c tickets...Majority of the fan club members would not renew their 10c membership...If they quit doing 10C tickets..
Stole this from another thread.... I think it sums it up....
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Sounds like how most people feel about politics, .... which is never a good attitude.. ask questions! Since we don't know how it works lets just ASSUME things couldn't be any better :roll:
Hi Elvis Closet Monkey,
I agree with your statement you posted...But, still you don't think the 10c could do a little better job overall on every aspect of running a 10c...I know the 10c can't announce any tour dates until they get the ok from pearl jam management etc..10C is becoming more of a merchandise store..Not a fan club...I have been a long time 10c fan club member...I am not going to quit renewing my fan club membership...Because, I like the fact to have the chance to get 10c tixs...But, it is becoming more of a burden to get these tixs...If it wasn't for the 10c tickets...Majority of the fan club members would not renew their 10c membership...If they quit doing 10C tickets..
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
What I get from this explanation is basically they're all too busy at 10C to be bothered with the likes of us. Thank, Kat, BUT this is a fan club. I really wish you wouldn't just diss us by telling us you're too busy picking up the slack what the record company would have done, had there been one.
Stole this from another thread.... I think it sums it up....
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Sounds like how most people feel about politics, .... which is never a good attitude.. ask questions! Since we don't know how it works lets just ASSUME things couldn't be any better :roll:
Don't roll your eyes at me!!!!
Questions are fine. Just saying it's hard to formulate an opinion without knowing all the facts behind something. And yes, without questions, you can't get facts. Fun cycle, isn't it
Stole this from another thread.... I think it sums it up....
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Hi Elvis Closet Monkey,
I agree with your statement you posted...But, still you don't think the 10c could do a little better job overall on every aspect of running a 10c...I know the 10c can't announce any tour dates until they get the ok from pearl jam management etc..10C is becoming more of a merchandise store..Not a fan club...I have been a long time 10c fan club member...I am not going to quit renewing my fan club membership...Because, I like the fact to have the chance to get 10c tixs...But, it is becoming more of a burden to get these tixs...If it wasn't for the 10c tickets...Majority of the fan club members would not renew their 10c membership...If they quit doing 10C tickets..
I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
What I get from this explanation is basically they're all too busy at 10C to be bothered with the likes of us. Thank, Kat.
I can't understand how you got that? It seems Kat took some time to explain that yes they are busy, and the few of them are doing the job that many others used to do, and that a lot of the time, they are not allowed to make certain announcements and they do as they are instructed with others. I thought it was pretty simple.
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I'm not going to go into a lot of detail but there are some things to remember. There are extra staff and other responsibilities when you're being your own record company. There are many more people taking care of things that the record company used to take care of. I'll just leave it there. People can analyze it to death and have the Winter blues because they want to know everything and want to know it right now but there won't be any announcements until all ducks are in the basket and the eggs in a row...if there's anything to announce. And many times, the honor of announcing goes to someone else...please repeat this fact often to each other. I know the Ten Club would like to announce everything early without any leaks beforehand but it's not possible. It's just not possible.
Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
What I get from this explanation is basically they're all too busy at 10C to be bothered with the likes of us. Thank, Kat.
I agree with that...But, without any fan club members....There wouldn't even be a fan club...So, in a fan club...Who should be the top priority?
What I get from this explanation is basically they're all too busy at 10C to be bothered with the likes of us. Thank, Kat.
I can't understand how you got that? It seems Kat took some time to explain that yes they are busy, and the few of them are doing the job that many others used to do, and that a lot of the time, they are not allowed to make certain announcements and they do as they are instructed with others. I thought it was pretty simple.
Ha! I went back and edited (a good couple times, after re-reading my poor sentence structure). She's basically saying they have more work to do in which the record company used to do. It makes sense; they're busier with other duties, whereas we aren't getting their attention, nor are they focusing on the fan club at all anymore.
Sounds like to me they are short handed...So, maybe that problem should be looked into..I am sure it is really tough to not have a record label backing you up..
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no, actually, it comes down to them having families.
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Thanks to everyone who understands and tries to be patient...it's not easy but we can do it. I'm out.
Have a beautiful day all.
Kat
Really there should be no need for this to be made clear here, as lets be honest isnt this obvious?
after 3 days of constant pissing and whining about tour dates that might not even exist, all kinds of insults and put downs levelled at the fanclub, its come to that Kat has to explain that things leak before they are definite? she has really had to explain this....
Of course she has had to respond eventually because really its got to an unacceptable and pathetic level these last few days and that in itself is a real shame.
Ok many people wanted to know why some dates are released and then others later, but there is no answer to that other than probably to try and give some news before the rest is finalised as they totally realise how much of a rabid pack of dogs their fans are desperate for any morsal of information.......
sure they could wait till a fukll tour is final, but then the bithcing and whining would be even worse whilst we waited......
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I think this post alone should be made a sticky. Thank you, Kat. Hopefully this will clean up the board for a bit!
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Sorry Kat, but this is where you are wrong.....
The Vault
The Re-issues
The Big, Bold and Free
The Bootlegs
The Digital Lounge
ALL statements that WERE MADE BY 10 CLUB, no one else, and have left us high and dry since the original post. Seems like hundreds of posts made by us, the fans, wondering what is up with these and no response.
I understand that no tour plans have been mentioned by ANYONE at 10Club, so I understand what you are saying. Also, I realize that Re-issues are somewhat out of your hands, but you have to know something. All the above were started by the 10Club, so why no answers?
Right for the 100th time, the tenclub rely upon the information they are given. simple.
Agendas change, ideas get placed on the backburner.......Apple still havent released their nano iphone......how many years has that been coming?
The band have made available almost every bootleg bar 2007 since 2000......whats wrong with that?
you think tenclub decide what happens to the vault? when that opens?
you think Sonyy keep them constantly in the loop re the reissues....
you think the tour dates are ready to be released?
If they had any of this information - you would have it by now.
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just 2 things,,
1.are u coming in Europe tour this summer???couse then if u do i have to save some ouzo for u..
2.if Athens show happen,this year or whenever,i want u to announce it and not another person that work in 10c
thanks
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
So why be half assed about it? That also doesn't explain the following two things : A. Why do we always find out news from other sources? and B. Why are we not given enough time between show announcements and ticket going on sale when it was no problem just a few short years ago. Just doesn't make any sense. You would think they would make it easy as hell to go to shows considering they know that us fuckers will go to five or six shows if just given ample time (meaning way more money for pearl jam).. its almost as if they DON'T want to make as much money because honestly? The more time that goes on the less easy it is to follow pearl jam around (even in your specific area that they come to) and the more i realize that its not worth the effort... Not because i don't like the band but because its just too difficult to keep up with. I just don't ever remember things ever being this complicated.. I just don't understand why a band that's known for its live shows would make it hard for the "hardcore" fans to go and see them. Do they just assume all of us are over 30 and have amazing jobs? Even a great job considering.. still not easy to see the band (not to mention that if you DO have a great job, hard to take off for pearl jam shows) What about us in our very early 20s (and younger)who are trying to go to school ect ect. It's just a good way to alienate fans that never stopped caring, even when the rest of the world did. Thankfully i've been lucky to have seen some really great shows so my world isn't going to collapse if i can't afford to see pearl jam anymore but it's something i'll greatly miss. I don't expect ten club or pearl jam to be perfect or answer every fan's question..., it would just be nice to have certain things explained once in awhile especially when multiple fans are confused about the same things. Tis all
I think we should keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the 10c operates under. I'm sure it's not entirely up to them what information gets passed to us, so maybe we shouldn't assume anything about the job they're doing...
Just curious. When you go to a restaurant and get lousy service, do you "keep in mind that we have NO IDEA what kind of constraints/demands/rules/etc that the restaurant (or insert any other business here) operates under" or do you get pissed off?
I am not saying the Ten Club's serivce is lousy. Just saying that line of thinking is kinda silly.
Still has nothing to do with pearl jam doesn't feel like they need tour anywhere besides the East coast and West Coast...I wouldn't care how the 10c announced the tour dates..As long as you knew that it was going to be a guessing game...If we all knew that the band was going to do a real U.S tour..Not just East coast and West Coast...I use to travel a lot to attend pearl jam concerts...Now I am at the point where if they come to my neck of the woods..
Sounds like how most people feel about politics, .... which is never a good attitude.. ask questions! Since we don't know how it works lets just ASSUME things couldn't be any better :roll:
Hi Evil Closet Monkey,
I agree with your statement you posted...But, still you don't think the 10c could do a little better job overall on every aspect of running a 10c...I know the 10c can't announce any tour dates until they get the ok from pearl jam management etc..10C is becoming more of a merchandise store..Not a fan club...I have been a long time 10c fan club member...I am not going to quit renewing my fan club membership...Because, I like the fact to have the chance to get 10c tixs...But, it is becoming more of a burden to get these tixs...If it wasn't for the 10c tickets...Majority of the fan club members would not renew their 10c membership...If they quit doing 10C tickets..
Jeremy
It's Evil
What I get from this explanation is basically they're all too busy at 10C to be bothered with the likes of us. Thank, Kat, BUT this is a fan club. I really wish you wouldn't just diss us by telling us you're too busy picking up the slack what the record company would have done, had there been one.
Don't roll your eyes at me!!!!
Questions are fine. Just saying it's hard to formulate an opinion without knowing all the facts behind something. And yes, without questions, you can't get facts. Fun cycle, isn't it
I can't understand how you got that? It seems Kat took some time to explain that yes they are busy, and the few of them are doing the job that many others used to do, and that a lot of the time, they are not allowed to make certain announcements and they do as they are instructed with others. I thought it was pretty simple.
I agree with that...But, without any fan club members....There wouldn't even be a fan club...So, in a fan club...Who should be the top priority?
Ha! I went back and edited (a good couple times, after re-reading my poor sentence structure). She's basically saying they have more work to do in which the record company used to do. It makes sense; they're busier with other duties, whereas we aren't getting their attention, nor are they focusing on the fan club at all anymore.
Jeremy